New remington shotgun?

Now they just need to do that on a semi-auto shotgun instead of a pump and we might have something...

Very interesting. The trend in other arms for the past century has been toward detachable box magazines. Makes sense for shotguns too.

I still have some liking for the old shoot one, load one rigmarole of the tube fed shotgun, for in theory you never run out of ammunition. Nice theory, but the arrow of progress has been, lo these many years, to get away from handling individual rounds of ammunition in favor of the use of magazines, belts, clips, etc.

Sounds like more tactical crap to me. Have fun those of you who are into that.

Would be quicker to unload I suppose.

OH NO! They can't make the models they,ve made for 50 years without problems. So lets add something new.? Get your QC back on what you already make before making another piece of CR-P I bought a H&R Pardner pump 870 clone protector a couple years back for another HD shotgun. I played with Remington Exspress, Mavrick, and Mossberg to see how smooth they were. For the price the China made one was as smooth as my 1978 Rem Wingmaster. More solid and heavier but feeds and eject as smooth. Best 159.00 bucks I spent.

Okay, so they made a detachable mag version of the 870 with the same capacity as a mossberg 500 18.5" barrel and 2 rounds less than the mossberg 20". With that "extended ported tactical choke" it's pushing 20" anyways. I'm not seeing the plus unless some people just prefer giving up a sleek gun for a gawdy detachable 12g box mag hanging out of your short and handy HD shotty. I'll take the tube mag please.

I wonder what Mossberg is doing right about now...

Those feed lips look pretty fragile to me.

Makes more sense in a semi auto to me. I have never minded handling individual rounds when it comes to something like a shotgun. My fingers are the most dexterous in the world, but even I can manage to continually feed a tube fed gun when the ammunition is the size of my thumb.

I don't really see the benefit. I guess the TAC 14 looks kinda cool, but tbh it probably makes an already impractical gun even more so.

Once again, Saiga-12s are cool. They're cool because they function like an AK and allow you to dump a magazine as fast as you can yank the trigger. Not the most practical but fun.

This just looks gangly and harder to fit under a truck seat.

Solid pass.

I'l just top mine off the old way.
Thanks, but no thanks.

Mixed reactions from a lifetime (60 plus years) unabashed 870 lover. I'd like to try one, but I'd like it to be on a Wingmaster from twenty or more years back. All but one of our(my boys' and mine) 870s are from "the good old days" and a couple, even after rebuilding, are smoother than anything coming out of Illion these days.
I think my mag extension is fine but maybe too slow to reload. Might be good for snow goose season. Might be a "trigger" and scare some snowflakes.
My first good shotgun WAS a 16 gauge model 12 and I wish I still had it. That was smooth, as is my M12 skeet.

To make this in a pump instead of a semi auto is, frankly, insane.

I predict this will be another commercial failure from Remington. Also why do the magazines have to look like a tactical cheese grater?

Also, since this takes box magazines, why is there still a tube magazine? That's just lazy design right there. And the barrel is now pointlessly long since it doesn't have to mate with the tube magazine for capacity. The "extended tactical extreme battle weapons system platform operator barrel constriction mechanism" (choke) makes it even worse on several models.

Also I see it's being based on what looks like the Express model. Yuck. Even the Police line has problems (mine does) but I predict more QC issues for Remington.

Sorry, but I don't see how this is remotely better in any way than a Mossberg M590A1. Yes another ridiculous FAIL from Remington.

I must be getting old and out of touch.
Are these cool?
Would it be convenient to carry huge spare mags around?
I don't get it.

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I still have this 16 gauge Model 12. I inherited it from an Uncle over 40 years ago.

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This is what a pump shotgun is supposed to be.

It makes sense to create a product that competes with the Saiga and VEPR shotguns - a lot of people spent a lot of money on those guns.

Unfortunately for Remington this 870 DM is not that product.

You know there will be extended capacity magazines in short order. Ideal for blasting crap at the dump or hunting zombies.
You still need a magazine tube because it's a pump. Duh ?
I believe it will sell to the cheap as possible crowd. If it does, an auto will be close behind.

My wild guess is that this will be a commercial failure. Just one more thing to hasten Remington's demise. If Remington wants to save itself, it has to improve quality control and customer service. Unless these issues are addressed, more new product introductions are pointless.

I just got through rebuilding a Remington Magnum police with Magpul furniture. I would much rather rehome an old 870 than buy one of the new ones. It's a lot cheaper too.

If it runs correctly I think it's brilliant! Cruiser-ready works but I like the idea of having the shotgun unloaded with a loaded mag close by. Great for HD and maybe good for in a vehicle where you can't have it loaded.