I wanted to try out wet tumbling so bought a dual drum HF rock tumbler. The rubber drums work ok, they are a little finicky and I had to mess with them a bit to get them to seal. There are a number of youtube videos on how to build a better drum using PVC or ABS drain pipe. My favorite was a guy that used an applesauce jar. That's what I'm using now. Seneca Original 47.8 oz jug. Fill it 3/4 full of cases, add hot water to cover plus an inch or two over, lemi shine 1/4 teaspoon, squirt of Dawn and a cap full of armour all wash and wax add 2 lbs of SS pins and I'm good to go. 2 hours and the brass is better than new. The wash and wax is a great addition. Cases are shiner and stay shiny over time. I seperate the cases and pins with a sand toy sifter that somehow is still around after the kids grew up. A magnet does the final gathering of the pins after sun drying the brass on a old towel. I like shiny, I like clean no mess on my hands brass handling. I batch prime as a separate task and clean brass is nice. Just joined a local shooting club and if I shoot more I'll think about moving up to a larger capacity tumbler. For now I'm good with the HF unit. Oh, and BTW, lube it, or lose it, as stated above.