Bought a Lyman Remington

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drobs,
If you send it here, it'll come back easier to handle and have coil springs for lifetime operation. With an action stop and a bolt block, its action will be stronger and more accurate than a ROA!

Mike
 
Got it yesterday, it was built in 1972, date coded XX8, I'm seriously reconsidering this because this revolver is damn near perfect. Just the right amount of wear on it.

I'll buy a conversion cylinder for it and shoot it this summer and rethink this next fall.
 
Armored farmer,
They are both good revolvers. The Uberti definitely has better parts inside plus a dovetailed front sight! On the other hand, the Pietta is physically larger which is a plus for folks that are more comfortable with a bigger framed revolver. Personally, since I don't shoot C&B anymore and I have a 45C conversion cyl for a Pietta, I'd go with a Pietta.

Mike
 
My old Uberti 58 has slowly turned from blue to something else. More like purple.
I have some interest in doing a home defarb job.
Hmmmm....I have a Uberti .31 pocket Colt I got around 1992. It was a nice charcoal ed blue, which I didn't expect since I'd ordered it from Cabela's. The cylinder went purplish....and is now almost "in the white."
I wonder what causes this?
 
The bluing often turns PLUM on antique firearms (if there is any left by the time we find them.)
It just shows that your guns are becoming antiques right before your eyes!
 
There's definitely something that causes the plum color because some guns only get it on certain parts. The Colt 1860 Army's that came in the cased 2 gun set with a shoulder stock sometimes get plum cylinders. Colt 3rd Generation SAA's from certain years get plum trigger guards. It's been theorized that it has something to do with the batch of metal or the batch of bluing solution.
 
Howdy

I'm a little bit late to enter this conversation, but I will add my 2 cents anyway.

Back in the 1970s, most of the Remingtons being imported into this country had short front sights. My old EuroArms Remmie that I bought in 1975 did too. Didn't think much of it until I started thinking of getting a cartridge conversion cylinder fitted for it. At that time, I noticed that the old Remmie shot relatively high. So before buying the conversion cylinder I bought a new Uberti front sight, and had a local gunsmith fit it to my old Remmie. This particular Remmie had a dovetailed front sight. I didn't much care about if the sight was 'historically accurate' I wanted it to shoot well. The new front sight was taller, than the original, but it did not fit the original dovetail. No problem, the smith opened up the dovetail and mounted the new front sight, and that brought my point of impact down to where I wanted it.

Then I had the new cylinder fitted.

This is my old Remmie with its taller front sight and its conversion cylinder. Sorry, I don't have a photo of the old front sight, trust me, they were all shorter in those days.

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A few years later I ran across a used stainless Uberti that included a conversion cylinder for a really good price. Yeah, the gun is stainless and the cylinder is blue, but I don't care, it was a really good price. Notice the Uberti front sight pretty much matches the new sight on the other gun regarding height.

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Regarding blue turning 'plum' color: When Ruger first started using their Investment Casting process, they were getting a lot of parts that were coming out plum color. It turned out the casting house was using silica in the alloy to help it flow better into the molds. Ruger had them reduce the silcon content in the alloy, and the plum problem went away. Probably not the only reason why blue can turn plum color, but it is one.

Here is a Three Screw 357 Mag Blackhawk from 1962 with a plum colored loading gate.

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Plum colored loading gate on a Flat Top 44 Mag Blackhawk from 1958.

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Exactly DJ, the front sight is very short on this Lyman built in 1972 in comparison to the current Remingtons being offered today.
 
Mike - why do you feel the Pietta replica of the Rem is stronger than the ROA? I was told at the Ruger factory that the ROA was loaded with smokeless and it held together. Not that I would want to try or test that myself.
 
Mr. Crawdad
Happy New Year

What was the final outcome of the Lyman Remi?
I ran across the below and it reminded me of your gun

“Blackie at Shaman’s Forge talks about that bright potassium nitrate bluing as one reason why the finish on originals aged and patinaed-up fast the way they did. “
 
Gary!!!
Sorry, I just read this! (I need to get out more!!)
Anyway, I was taking about the action, not the cylinder/frame etc.
The Ruger is top of the heap when talking about pressures/frame and ability to use as a hammer!! Lol
But 1- a Remington can be outfitted with coil/torsion springs in place of the flat springs (save for the main). That will give it the "lifetime" of a Ruger. And 2- since I install a bolt block and an action stop (two things that aren't found in a ROA), these will extend the parts life past Ruger (should anyway).
So, for speed, durability and handling, the Remie can be setup to out run a ROA as far as the CAS crowd is concerned!! It's a much lighter package.

Mike
 
Hello Sir and Happy New Year. :)

I sent it back. At one time it must have been horribly out of time and the cylinder had a deep gouge in it from the out of time bolt stop.

This didn't come from the factory this way so I figured someone took it apart and didn't know what he was doing to get it back together again. But that didn't stop him. You can see the line and after having it in my hands that line is deeper then it looks.

Oh well.

But I still have my Colt!!! :thumbup:

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To each his own, but I have never understood carrying an antiqued gun in costume.
If you are portraying a guy from the 1880s carrying a gun made in the 1860s why would it have 100+ years of patina?

IronHand
 
Good point!! I just think it looks good that's all.

A trail boss who dropped his prized Remington he used during the War in a stream heading north to a Kansas cowtown and latter found it on the way back.

This was Buffalo Bill's Remington. Written on the note,

“To Charlie & Carrie. This old Remington revolver. I carried and used for many years in Indian Wars and Buffalo killing. And it never failed me. WF Cody Dec 13th 1906.” Cody wrote this note to his friends Charles and Carrie Trego, when he gave them the gun for Christmas in 1906.

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Thank you Lonesome!! :)

According to the serial number built in 1976, I should get the Colt Letter on her since I don't have the box or any other documents.

I started to work up a load for her last summer using 375 ball and differing powder charges (GOEx 3Fg) and wad combinations. She didn't seem to like that 375 ball at all.

I'll try again this Spring but with 380 ball this time, I just bought some from TOTW, to see if I can get her dialed in a little tighter.
 
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