A reminder of why I like stainless steel knives...

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A friend of mine recently brought me a Boker automatic for "service". He lost it sometime last year and found it in his front yard about 6 months later.

There were a couple of rust spots on the AUS8 steel blade which came off easily--one did leave a barely visible patch of pitting. After the rust removal, I cleaned up the blade with Flitz and it looked nearly as good as new. The aluminum handle shows some wear and weather damage but is still fully functional.

I cleaned/lubricated and tightened the pivot, tightened up the pocket clip and then put an edge back on the blade. The sharpening was done because the blade was dulled from use--I could see no significant edge deterioration as a result of exposure to the elements.

The outcome is a perfectly functional knife with virtually no life lost due to edge corrosion damage. There's no way the outcome could have been nearly as positive had the knife been equipped with a carbon steel blade.

There are basically 4 wear/damage mechanisms.

1. Abrasion.
2. Corrosion.
3. Chipping/breaking.
4. Rolling/bending.

Stainless dramatically reduces or eliminates corrosion, one of those damage/wear mechanisms, and at similar hardness levels a premium stainless will be more resistance to abrasion wear as well. That's a pretty significant benefit in terms of overall wear and in terms of edge retention.

I'm not saying that knives should be designed to survive 6 months lying outside in the rain and sun, but surviving that kind of abuse suggests that it should be nearly impervious to the more conventional corrosion threats a knife would encounter in normal use.
 
I am also a big stainless fan, even for larger knives up to 8" or so in blade length, on the grounds that corrosion is always an issue for me, but a knife's ability to take a bend to 90 degrees and return to true is not.
 
I have far more knives that aren't stainless than are. They're all in as good as shape as the stainless ones are, if not better. But then again I take care of my knives and don't leave them laying around in my yard for six months.;)
 
Glad to hear that the blade survived its little camp out... Where I am (south Florida), corrosion is a definite problem. In my case, working salt and brackish areas out of a small skiff as a full-time fishing guide, corrosion is such a problem that my heavy fish cutting blades are very carefully left in my truck and only come out at the end of the day if I have an angler wanting to keep a few fish - even though they're stainless (Victorinox or Forschner cimeters in the 10 to 12" size). Not even oil coating them after each use would keep them rust/corrosion free if I left them on my skiff....

Keeping good quality blades serviceable is a high priority with me - even though I'm cutting a lot less fish than I was years ago (when cutting 100 to as much as 300lbs a day went with my job a mate on charter boats...). Those two big blades have been with me since the early eighties.

If anyone knows of a filet or boning knife with a good quality blade that will survive a marine environment - I'd love to hear about it...
 
JohnKSa

Nice story and great refurbishing on your part! I have found a number of knives over the years on my daily walks arounf the neighborhood. Most are fairly intact and often times just in need of cleaning, polishing (along with a little Flitz), and putting a new edge on the blade.
 
Isnt Aus 8 similar to 440C?
It's hard to know for sure, but it does seem that 440C and AUS8 are called out as being comparable by more than one source. To be clear, I didn't really intend for this to be a plug for AUS8, mostly was pointing out that it's nice when the blade steel's properties help out a little in the ongoing battle against corrosion.

That said, I've owned a few AUS8 knives and don't really have much negative to say about the steel. It seems to perform well for what I need it to do although I can tell from sharpening that it does seem softer and doesn't hold an edge as well as some of the premium steels that are out there these days.

That's more of an endorsement for the really high-performance steels we have these days as opposed to a ding against AUS8. Go back a decade or two and you could make the argument that AUS8 was considered to be a premium stainless knife steel back then.
 
I have a couple or more stainless blades but much prefer the sharp edge potential of most of the carbon blades. Granted, rural Illinois is not a highly corrosive environment.
My most abused knife is a 2" carbon Erikkson Mora straight carving or whittling knife that rides in a plastic sheath as part of my garden/greenhouse clip on tool pouch. It develops some rust from cutting vines and stems and wet twine and such and stays dirty for weeks at a time. It still cleans up and keeps a razor sharp edge to its almost needle point. (many people overlook the utility of a small fixed blade with adequate handle)
My favorite and most used hunting knives are D2, many years old handmade by a maker that died almost 20 years ago, and heat treated by Paul Bos. Not a stainless steel but very rust resistant.
I don't automatically turn my nose up at a stainless steel blade, but I haven't seen any that I can get excited about.
 
When I recently had a knife made I found out about CTS-HXP stainless. This seems to be one of the better steels out there now, hard and relatively corrosion resistant. Interesting process for making the steel also.

Some people have referred to it as a stainless D2. It’s a powdered, air hardening, high chromium, high carbon alloy.
 
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Some people have referred to it as a stainless D2.
Some sources indicate that it's sweet spot is actually harder than D2. The lines between "carbon steel" and "stainless steel" have blurred quite a bit in terms of hardness and carbon content if you're talking about premium stainless steels.
 
AUS8 is a Japanese equivalent to 440B. AUS10 would be the Japanese equivalent to 440C.
Is "equivalent" really the best word? The steels paired up in that fashion do have similar carbon content, but the alloys are quite different in other ways. For example, the 440 series steels have higher chrome content than the AUS steels while the AUS steels have vanadium and nickel which are both absent in the 440 series. And although all four steels have molybdenum, the content is quite different between the AUS and the 440 steels.

Is there some kind of performance data/test data that could be used to compare the steels in terms of hardness/toughness/corrosion resistance vs. just trying to look at the composition?
 
On my first deployment, I dropped my Spyderco Native into the mud at the bottom of the mortar pit during a night fire mission. I found it stomped down into the snow and grit three days later.

There was some rust that cleaned up nicely. I never use that knife anymore... but I could.
 
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