Larger Red Dot Sights

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Any suggestions when it comes to larger red dots or the like? The Romeo7 from Sig looks interesting, but was wondering any one really make ones larger than 30mm?

The rifle in question I am planning on putting this on is a Ruger PC Carbine... well will be once the store gets it in, but I have it on order. :3

Initially just going to be throwing a scout scope on it on a cantilever mount. A NcStar 2-7x32mm. Cheap and surprisingly good picture close up and at range.
 
What do you mean "larger"? The actual physical size/weight of the optic overall?

Or are you looking for an optic with a large/unobstructed field of view and sight picture?
 
A nice large viewing area making it easy to acquire the target would be nice. The Trijicon RX34 is one that really caught my eye, but is crazy out of my price range, which sorta maxes out at around like 200 right now.
 
My guess is that you might be very surprised with what the small reddots like the Leupold Deltapoint Pro and Trijicon RMR offer in terms of a large and unobstructed FOV.

My Aimpoint H1 doesn't hold a candle to the clear and unobstructed view that the Leupold DDP offers:
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Personally, I don't like tube type red dots that reach 30mm or above. They just get too bulky in the overall diameter from the shooter's point of view, IMO.

Like Creature shows, the reflex type of open red dot gives a better forward view. The EOTech 517 I had at one time was fantastic in that regard. The frame blurred out of view making it feel like the red dot was floating by itself in front of the target. I have a cheapo red dot similar in size to the Leupold DP that Creature shows. It is similar in that the frame blurs out of view when mounted on a rifle (both eyes open enhance that).

I too would like a Ruger PCC9 and would likely put on a Vortex Viper or a Burris Fast Fire at some point. If I got a Ruger PCC today, I'd simply mount a spare Bushnell TRS-25 I have on it for the short term.

I think the main thing with the Ruger PCC9 is that it will need low mounted optics, not high AR optics. I say that because a cantilever mounted scope may be a bit on the high side, especially if that cantilever mount is for an AR.
 
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Large diameter red dots with a big internal dot used to be popular in the pistol games (Like my old Tasco ProPoint) for fast shooting, but not so much anymore. If you shoot with both eyes open, like you should, it isn't that important to have a large diameter tube. What is more important, IMHO, is that the black ring you see (The outer tube) is not so thick that it interferes. This varies a lot on tube type red dots.
Creature said:
My Aimpoint H1 doesn't hold a candle to the clear and unobstructed view that the Leupold DDP offers:
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Yep. And although it isn't a tube type to tube type comparison, it shows what I tried to say.

RMR 6.5 MOA Dot. Very fast. Probably not as sturdy as the tube type if subjected to heavy abuse.
Bald Eagle Front Rest-Edgewood Rear Bag-PSA Lightweight 5.56 Upper-UTG Riser-Trijicon RMR Pic 1.JPG
 
If you're looking through the tube like a scope you're doing it wrong. Both eyes open and the dot sort of floats out there.
 
Creature said:
My guess is that you might be very surprised with what the small reddots like the Leupold Deltapoint Pro and Trijicon RMR offer in terms of a large and unobstructed FOV.

My Aimpoint H1 doesn't hold a candle to the clear and unobstructed view that the Leupold DDP offers:
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The one on the left is not bad. The one on the right though would personally be a bit annoying given.

Definitely curious now and will have to look more into those.
 
DukeConnor said:
If you're looking through the tube like a scope you're doing it wrong. Both eyes open and the dot sort of floats out there.
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In fairness, if you’re looking through a scope without both eyes open, you’re doing it wrong.
 
imashooter said:
Why?
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The fact a lot of people do something wrong does not make it right...

Shooting should always be done with both eyes open. Only the “I’ve been shooting 50yrs with one eye closed and I’m not changing now” guys recommend otherwise...
 
I likely have as much red dot experience as anyone here and fully understand the both-eyes open recommendation based on target acquisition time and field of view. I do both eyes open. But is neither the correct way or the wrong way. It's merely one of two alternatives. Simple as that. I also fire 1911s both eyes open, no sights. That causes a stir. BTW, the reason behind the "reflex" optic had nothing to do with "both eyes open". True that the shooter can benefit from that option but that was not a design reason. Using only one eye when red dotting is not wrong at all; it's just limiting which for most folks who only punch paper is just fine.
 
Sometimes I shoot with both eyes open, sometimes not, kind of depends. For speed? Always two eyes open, focusing on the target. For accuracy? Kind of depends on what I feel comfortable with on a given day, optic. Some people shot their 36X Benchrest scope with both eyes open to never lose sight of the flags, but I struggled with doing it at that power lever.
 
Bushnell just announced the "Big D" at shot show. The Firearm Blog had a video about it and some other now releases on YouTube. I think it's a 36mm from what I remember
 
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