Budget Shotgun Recommendations for Dove, 2018 Version

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Hey, all. I know there are plenty of budget shotgun comparisons out there (I've read most of them, probably). But, every year the discussion changes a little bit as manufacturers add or drop models, quality declines or improves, and/or models get re-branded. Bearing in mind that one of the ancients said that there is wisdom in a multitude of counselors, I thought it might be good to get some up-to-date informed opinion.

Background: I'll be in the market soon for a new dove gun. At that time, I hope to have about $450-550 to spend. I've already done a lot of research, and I'd like to see if the opinions of the experienced shotgunners here will confirm or refute my findings to this point.

Here's the ground rules for this particular discussion:

1. This gun will only be for dove (I already have a bolt-action 12 gauge for turkey, and I have no interest in waterfowling -- apologies to all duck/goose hunters).
2. Limit the discussion to 20 gauge. I'm familiar with the arguments for and against 12 gauge versus the various sub-gauges. I just prefer 20 gauge.
3. No synthetics! Aesthetics is important to me, and I like wood. I know synthetics are cheaper and more than capable of doing the job, but no synthetic stock will ever part me from my money. :)
4. Please don't suggest that I save up my money and aim for something that's beyond the $550 upper limit. Not a possibility at this point, unless I win the lottery (which I would first have to actually start playing).
5. I have shot everything except side-by-sides, but I'm limiting my search to pumps or semi-autos.

So far, the models that have made my short list can be grouped into four broad categories:

A. Budget pump actions (Remington 870 Express, Mossberg 500, Winchester SXP, Escort M87, CZ 620). Until recently, the Weatherby PA-08 would have made this list, but it's out of production now, at least those wearing the Weatherby label.
B. Higher-priced pump actions (Browning BPS is at the upper end of the stated price range; used 870 Wingmasters fall into that range as well).
C. Turkish-made budget semi-autos (Mossberg SA-20, TriStar Viper G2, Silver Eagle Sporter and 202, Yildiz A71).
D. Higher-priced but still lower-end semi-auto (used Weatherby SA-08).

I know there are some models in these categories that are not on the list (e.g. H&R, Stoeger, CZ 720). Some of these are models I didn't like the looks of or had too many negative reviews. Speaking of reviews, I noticed that there were many incidents of rough-running Turkish semi-autos that were satisfactorily fixed by a thorough strip-down, cleaning, and lubing.

So, keeping the ground rules in mind, I'm very much interested in reading your opinions about either one of the aforementioned groups compared to another, or one model compared to the others. Thanks for reading this lengthy intro and for your valued opinions!
 
A lot of people go crazy for shotguns but my Remington 870 has never failed me. If I won the lottery I would probably buy a high dollar shot gun. But I bought my 870 because of the price and a few old hunters advice and it has served me well.
 
Used Winchester 1300, but that's just me. I love both of mine, but parts can be hard to come by since they're not longer produced. (The SXP is very similar, but parts don't interchange.) Other than that, I've gotta second the used Wingmaster or 37.

Matt
 
My dove gun is a weatherby pa08 with the wood stock. I love it. I'd recommend it! I've also only heard great things about the sa08, but don't have much experience with it. Mines a 20 gauge. I love the finish on it and it's been very reliable. However, my cheap Mossberg Maverick and 870 express have been great, too.
 
I hunted for years with a Wingmaster that I purchased new in 1970. Nobody ever made a better pump shotgun. Ithaca 37 would also be a good choice. All within your price limit and all wood. The fine workmanship of those old pumps makes a new one look like piece of rebar nailed to a 2x4.
 
I have many flavors of the 20, Ithaca, Winchester, Mossberg and Remington. I found the old used Remmy 1100, smooth barrel fixed Mod choke for $300. Cleaned it, put in a new O-ring and it has been my dove gun for the past 3 seasons. I prefer the auto, soft on the shoulder for extended shooting. I don't exactly average 1 shell per bird.
 
The SA-08 and SA-20 are excellent. I’ve heard enough good about TriStar I’d be comfortable trying one. I don’t do pumps. If I were going to buy another 20 gauge(I’m not because I have plenty) it would be an SA-20. 51B82010-FC6C-4B7E-8E3F-BFB26D65D5EF.jpeg 8C4D9E57-7186-4EAF-A87E-2FAC259F64B6.jpeg
 
870 express or Moss 500. Stay with proven designs, from established brands. If something goes wrong with it, getting it fixed won't be a nightmare.
 
Several years ago I bought the Tristar Viper G2 Bronze for a dedicated dove gun. It’s gorgeous and has never failed me. It’s a sweet shooter, easy to swing, puts the hammer down on dove. I’d highly recommend Tristar Viper G2.
 
I am a gunsmith and I will advise you to stay away from the Turkish imports. They are very well made and serviceable shotguns but when they break parts are a real problem. Even the name brands such as Weatherby don't support the spare parts adequately.
Unfortunately, the same thing goes for the Winchester 1200/1300 series. Spare parts, especially feed throats are just not available.
That leaves 870's and Mossbergs for the new market in your price range.
 
Kp321 said:
They are very well made and serviceable shotguns but when they break parts are a real problem. Even the name brands such as Weatherby don't support the spare parts adequately.

I’ve had extensive dealings with Weatherby and found the opposite to be true.
 
but when they break parts are a real problem

This is a part of the discussion that very much interests me, specifically the part about "when they break." Of course there is the caveat that any shotgun can break, even a new one from a reputable company, but isn't one of the attractions of pump-action guns the inherent reliability of the design? How often do they actually break? I don't shoot trap or skeet, so I won't be putting thousands of rounds through the gun each year (or month or week, depending on how often those guys shoot). Realistically, I expect to shoot less than 500 rounds of dove/quail loads per season. That would seem to me to be a light workout for a field gun. Assuming one doesn't purchase a lemon, aren't most of the recent Turkish guns robust enough to stand up to that level of use?
 
Buy a 870 or Mossberg 500 and you will have one of the best shotguns ever made. Also at 500 rds a year you can shoot it trouble free for the next 1,000 plus years without a worry.
 
This is a part of the discussion that very much interests me, specifically the part about "when they break." Of course there is the caveat that any shotgun can break, even a new one from a reputable company, but isn't one of the attractions of pump-action guns the inherent reliability of the design? How often do they actually break? I don't shoot trap or skeet, so I won't be putting thousands of rounds through the gun each year (or month or week, depending on how often those guys shoot). Realistically, I expect to shoot less than 500 rounds of dove/quail loads per season. That would seem to me to be a light workout for a field gun. Assuming one doesn't purchase a lemon, aren't most of the recent Turkish guns robust enough to stand up to that level of use?
They should be; but like most countries, they have companies who turn out so-so stuff and others who are near the top of the best anywhere.

AKUS is the one that made the S&W SxS and the Kimber sidelock SxS and both were on par with any of the Spanish Best as far as quality fit, finish and mechanical reliability. So do your research into the various makers; realize that CZs are made by Huglu for them, etc., etc. and make your decision.

That said, a lightly used older 870 WIngmaster will last you about forever and a day......
 
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