favorite 45 acp powder

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so I had to pull 50 or so 45 bullets the other day because of a boneheaded move I made loading later in the evening than i should have been, and ended up with a couple double charges and no way to definitively tell exactly how many or which ones they were. Thank heavens I caught my mistake but not before a few rounds ended up in the acro bin with a couple hundred others. I narrowed it down quite a bit by weight, and had a couple that were obviously double charged, but there was enough of a weight variation that i had to cull a lot more of them.
Anyway, a wise man once told me to use powders and charge weights that would fill at least half the case of what ever i was loading. That way it would over flow the top of the case and make a double charge obvious, to avoid this scenario. In almost all my cartridges I do just that. It has saved my back side before. But with 45 acp, (and 45 colt) the powders I like don't take up enough space.
Is there a magic powder that burns fast enough for the 45 ACP, and is fluffy enough to take up that much space in the case, and still cycle a 1911 with a heavy recoil spring, and meters accurately on a progressive? I like trailboss a lot, but havent seen any in my local stores since before the last panic, and have never tried it in 45 ACP.
so whats your favorite powder for 45 ACP that meets these criteria?
 
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A double charge of Unique won't fit. Probably others, and some that will fit will be so full it is obvious. You do look at each charge you seat a bullet over, correct?
yeah, but it was late, I was tired, and i should never have been loading in that state. this particular charge is really hard to see, as its so far down in, and it was not obvious enough for me that they were double charged.
 
You just stated the reason you double charged cases. "It was late, I was tired, etc." Doesn't matter which powder you use, (I use Unique for 45's), you MUST look at the powder charge before you seat the bullet. Since I am just getting started with 45's, I load using my Lee Classic Turret as a single stage. I charge powder away from the press, and look in each hull after dropping powder and before seating a bullet. I also weigh random samples after charging. It only takes one double charge........

I've been reloading other pistol and rifle cartridges since the mid 1970's, but I am still cautious.

Have a blessed day,

Leon
 
Now that you've learned when not to load, think about getting some kind of light kit for your press so that when you do look you can see in there. Worked for me.

I use a lot of WST. Pretty easy to see if there is too much in the case.
 
You just stated the reason you double charged cases. "It was late, I was tired, etc." Doesn't matter which powder you use, (I use Unique for 45's), you MUST look at the powder charge before you seat the bullet. Since I am just getting started with 45's, I load using my Lee Classic Turret as a single stage. I charge powder away from the press, and look in each hull after dropping powder and before seating a bullet. I also weigh random samples after charging. It only takes one double charge........

I've been reloading other pistol and rifle cartridges since the mid 1970's, but I am still cautious.

Have a blessed day,

Leon
well you see, it does matter which powder. I WAS looking. If the cases had over flowed, I would have caught it sooner. It would have Been OBVIOUS. With this powder, it was not obvious. It was easy to miss, because even with the double charges, it didnt even come close to the top of the case, and truthfully i am not good at judging the levels when the difference isnt profound. I fully recognise the importance of looking. I am not making excuses, but mistakes can happen, sometimes people miss things, I am not perfect, but congratuate you on achieving a level of attention and focus beyond my apparent abilities. I load on a progressive and taking each case off the press to drop a powder charge isnt practical for me and defeats the purpose of using a progressive press. What I am looking for is a way to add an extra level of safety to my reloading practice, and that is not a bad thing.

I appreciate the responses, I will check out bullseye and 231. I havent ever used them before.
 
yeah, but it was late, I was tired, and i should never have been loading in that state. this particular charge is really hard to see, as its so far down in, and it was not obvious enough for me that they were double charged.
I'd recommend you'd change your workflow as no powder change will resolve any of the above issues.
 
I have been loading Unique in my 45s, and with a 6.2 to 6.4 gr load, a double charge would not fit.

It seems to not be the best metering powder though. I'm going to try Longshot next.
 
I have been loading Unique in my 45s, and with a 6.2 to 6.4 gr load, a double charge would not fit.

It seems to not be the best metering powder though. I'm going to try Longshot next.
What bullet type and weight are you using for that?
 
Lots of good powders for the old 45 ACP....My last big batch was loaded with Red Dot....Why? Because it's what I had sitting around and my Kimber Eclipse shoots 230 grain loads using Red Dot very well. But Unique is usually the powder I use.....pretty much impossible to not notice a double charge of that........Many powders work great.......just gotta look at every powder charge along the way.....that's the second best way to avoid a double charge besides having the case overflow.
 
Is there a magic powder that burns fast enough for the 45 ACP, and is fluffy enough to take up that much space in the case, and still cycle a 1911 with a heavy recoil spring, and meters accurately on a progressive?
"Bulky" and "meters well" usually don't go together.

I think you can get 2 of following 3 but not all 3 qualities:
- Fast burning
- Meters well
- Bulky

so whats your favorite powder for 45 ACP that meets these criteria?
Closest powder to meet your criteria would be Red Dot/Promo but not fluffy enough to spill when double charged. I can meter Red Dot/Promo with around .2 gr variance and produce accurate loads to cycle my 1911 with 18.5 lb Wilson Combat recoil spring.
 
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I use Unique or W231. No double charges with either.
I think BE86 might be another, but I haven't played with it enough in .45acp yet to be sure it won't double charge.
 
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I'm another vote for Unique. I have a Lee Classic Turret press and Unique meters really well in the auto disk powder dispenser. I use 6.2gr with plated 230gr bullets. As others have said, a double charge will over flow the case
 
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I use Unique, you ally with a 230 gr FMJ or JHP. Sierras flying ashtrays are still my favorite, and the XTP takes the #2 spot, but is closing the gap on 1st place.

It's true that Unique isn't the smoothest metering powder out there, but the accuracy nodes are pretty forgiving, so a .1 grain swing either way isn't even noticed. For plinkers, you can churn them out pretty dang fast, just eyeballing the powder levels relative to one another, once you have a bunch sitting on the loading block. (after ensuring you're target weight is correct, of course)
I like the recoil impulse of Unique, and there's no way to double stuff a case.
My SD loads I do weigh individually
 
well you see, it does matter which powder. I WAS looking. If the cases had over flowed, I would have caught it sooner. It would have Been OBVIOUS.

Well, Captain Obvious, you weren't looking good enough. You already cited why. When in doubt, dump it out. Another reason I don't like progressive presses or dump powder measures, BTW. I load Bullseye and AA#5 mostly for .45ACP, sometimes Unique.
 
I use mostly W231/HP-38. While a double charge will not overflow it will be right to the top of the case ready to overflow.

AA#5 will overflow as will the already mentioned Unique and 700x.
 
I hear WST shoots great but haven't had a chance to try it yet.

I've loaded WST as a test, I found I was approaching max load and still not getting velocities equivalent to my standard charge of Unique (which is maximum, but still reasonable.) Although I use W231 for lighter .45ACP bullets, I've had the same problem with W231 and 230grn bullets as I did with WST.
 
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