My Ruger SR45-I Gave Up and Sold It

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Guys,
Wanted to share my experiences with the Ruger SR45 I purchased in late 2013 and just sold this past month. I hope my experience with this gun is a helpful addition to the general knowledge base on this firearm, and at the same time will generate questions for the manufacturer on the direction of their product development.
Everyone here buys firearms for lots of different reasons. I buy my guns to shoot, and to use for personal protection in either a home setting or concealed carry mode, so reliability is a major factor for me in determining the usefulness of the gun.
The SR45 is a beautiful gun to look at, shoots accurately, and dampens recoil effectively-the pros.
In my experience, the SR45 is completely unreliable, and is not a gun I would "trust my life with".
Here' s the history-
1) Purchased late 2013 (Nov), and in the first 200 rounds of factory hardball ammo had multiple instances of stovepipe feed problems and the additional problem of the magazine not staying open after the final round was fired.
2) Contacted Ruger Customer Service-who were extremely responsive-returned the gun for repair.
3) Ruger replaced the entire slide assembly, and returned the gun in about 2 weeks.
4) Going forward-put about another 500 rounds through the gun, and again experienced the problem of the slide not staying open after the last round. Examined the magazines and found that one of them had slightly malformed lips.
5) Reported the magazine issue to Ruger and they promptly exchanged the bad magazine for a new one.
6) From that point on (mid-2014) for the next 2 years, I used the gun as a range gun only, since it would not feed anything but hardball ammo. Tried multiple brands of high quality HP (Federal, Speer, etc.) and nothing would properly feed past the first round (i.e. stovepipes).
7) Starting in mid-2016, after having put about 2000 rounds through the gun, FTE and stovepipe feeds occurred with about every other magazine.
8) Contacted Ruger, who asked me to send in the gun for repairs and include a detailed description of the problems, and a list of HP ammo that wouldn't feed.
9) Ruger replaced the following components-trigger bar lift spring, ejector, trigger assembly, magazine disconnect, trigger bar reset, striker blocker and assembly, slide stop assembly. Ruger also repaired the barrel (not sure what was done to it). Again the customer service was very responsive, and turnaround of the "repaired" gun was within 2-3weeks.
10) Took the gun back out onto the range and it now fed both hardball and HP ammo-a plus.
11) Had a friend use it at the range, and the magazine release kept failing-i.e. when a new magazine was inserted into the gun, the slide automatically released and slammed a new round into the chamber. My friend had this happen 3 times and told me he didn't want to shoot the gun anymore since he considered it "unsafe"
I agreed, and the gun recently-sharing with the buyer all the Ruger paperwork showing the repairs done to the gun so he knew what he was getting. From my perspective, I had reached a point where the gun no longer had any value to me because I couldn't "trust my life to it".
My handgun collection contains products from Ruger, Colt, Beretta, Glock, and others, All have had thousands of rounds put through them at the range, and all have been repaired only once after years or decades of use (from wear). This is the only gun I've owned that has had significant and ongoing problems since purchase. It is also the newest model gun in my current collection, which raises the following questions in my mind-

-Does Ruger, in its constant rush to market of new products, ever test these products? Or does it expect the new gun owner to troubleshoot the design for them?
-My experience with Ruger gives their customer service the highest marks, but what does it say about their QA in manufacturing?
-And, most importantly, how many other manufacturers out there are chasing the same rapidly expanding concealed carry market by rushing new models of guns to a potential customer base who assume they can "trust their lives" to these products that haven't been fully and thoroughly tested. I constantly read gun forums and watch Youtube videos showing the problems owners of new handgun designs have with the quality, accuracy, and reliability of products recently purchased. (I've found the SR45 has a significant number of Youtube videos on its issues.)

I'm rapidly reaching a point where the next gun I purchase for self-defense will only be one that's widely used by law enforcement and/or military, since those firearms seem to be the only products that have to met certain reliability standards before they're adapted for use.

Guys,thanks for reviewing my post, and would certainly appreciate your thoughts on these issues.

Good shooting.
Gerry
 
I don't mean to sound like I'm dismissing your post, but it sounds like you got a lemon and that's about it.

I don't think your sample of 1 bad gun is enough to worry about product development and "chasing markets". An isolated incident does not equate to a systematic issue.

I've owned 3 different SR series guns and they have been phenomenal. I constantly read about firearms and the SR series has been very well received, even with early trigger issues almost a decade ago. I find very few negative reports on the SR series.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience. I too would have sold it. I'm sure you'll have better luck with your next purchase as I'm sure the statistics of getting 2 bad guns in a row from modern reputable companies is like .0001%
 
I own an SR45 and it has been a really good gun. I have only put about 200 rounds through mine, but no issues with FTE, FTF, and the slide has always held open on the last round. You may have just gotten a lemon. Did you remove the magazine disconnect?
 
I have an SR45 that I have had similar problems with as well, though not quite as bad as yours. I think the main design flaws in this gun are the springs (magazine, rsa, striker, slide lock, extractor). This gun just doesn’t seem sprung right in many places in my opinion. I also agree that this gun is very accurate and soft shooting. I can basically outshoot any other 45 acp with this gun, when it works well anyways lol. The other SR series of pistols (9/9c, 40/40c) have a very good reputation, however ruger did not execute the design well in the 45 acp version. There are several videos of the SR45 failing. Justin opinion did a video called “Lemon or bad design” or something along those lines if memory serves me well. I kind of trouble shot my SR45 myself and have got it to work pretty well, but it’s just regulated to range only status anymore because my lack of confidence in it. Ruger got a lot right with the SR45, just missed on the most important thing, reliability. There’s always the exception and I know there are some flawless examples of this gun out there, but there’s just too many reports of failures for this gun to be recommended. I think the ruger American is a far better striker fired 45acp handgun reliability and quality wise, accuracy wise not so much. I think you hit the nail on the head about this gun. I like my SR45 but it will never be a serious defensive pistol in my collection, I have others for that.
 
I'd be willing to bet that your original gun would have worked fine if you had removed the mag safety. For some reason....the way Ruger designed them it places additional spring pressure that causes drag along with they must be very closely adjusted or the guns won't fire. My last 345 slide felt terrible when manually worked and I got it for a very good price...used but with very few rounds...because it was 'unreliable'. Pulled out the mag safety and the slide instantly worked smoothly...as it should and the thing is totally dependable. Ruger DID do a good thing in that their mag safeties can be removed easily, but I would have gone a different route with the design if it had been up to me. Putting something spring loaded that needs to drag on the slide to work is pretty shaky IMHO.
 
Does Ruger, in its constant rush to market of new products, ever test these products? Or does it expect the new gun owner to troubleshoot the design for them?
-My experience with Ruger gives their customer service the highest marks, but what does it say about their QA in manufacturing?

I hate to read posts like your and can understand the frustration. I probably would have given up far sooner than you did. :(

I think in general manufacturers of many things rush to get product to market and in turn quality suffers. As a general rule when a product comes to market I generally wait and let someone else beta test a V1.0. Then when the fixes come out I jump on the train if I think I need to. I don't always follow my own advise, some times I worry about me. Just a general rule..

FWIW my SR9C has been flawless for 5+ years and thousands of rounds.

-jeff
 
Personally the only SR series pistol I shot was a SR9 at a rental range when they hadn't been out long. I honestly never liked them. Mostly because of all the PC features. The magazine disconnect in particular. There is a P-series, an American pistol & a SR-1911 here they are all fine. The last issue you list that of the slide going forward when a magazine is inserted I would probably just look at as a shortcut. I can understand after all the trips back, etcetera why you would be done with it. There seem to be issues that pop up even with pistols that are being adopted by the police & military if they have only recently been adopted. My father was the service manager at a Ford dealership when I was growing up. He told me once to never buy the first year of a new model car. Personally I like to watch until things have been out for a while & see if issues are reported before buying. He also said you might get a lemon from any manufacturer. I believe his advice about cars applies to guns also.
 
I owned an SR45 for about a year. There was a lot to like about it, but my experience was a little like yours. About 1-3/50 rounds would fte. The round would fire and the slide would cycle but the empty case would be pulled out of the chamber. Had a couple stove pipes too. Probably shot 500 rounds through it before I sold it. Also carried it for most of a summer, although I probably should t have!
 
Sounds like you got a lemon. FWIW, when I do mag changes "energetically" with a Glock, most of the time the slide goes forward once the magazine is slammed home. I don't consider this to be a problem, if you are doing a safe mag change.
 
...when a new magazine was inserted into the gun, the slide automatically released and slammed a new round into the chamber...
If this happens when a magazine is inserted gently, then that's unusual and something is probably wrong. If this happens during a fast mag change when the mag is inserted with authority, it's not unusual. In fact, with some practice, one can learn to insert a magazine so that the slide drops automatically on most autopistols.
 
What did you get for it?
Some 1811 nut got a bargain to fine tune, polish and tweak.
 
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