CMP for my AR?

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bric2000

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Is there a category for a 20" barreled AR with a 3.5 lb. trigger and optics?
I have never tried CMP.
Thank you.
 
Bump up the trigger to 4.5 lbs and you should be good for Service Rifle.

There is some other rules, but right now with what little info you have provided that is all you have to change.
 
What other equipment information can I provide?
I was considering a Spikes Tactical Lower, RRA varmint trigger, collapsible stock, WOA complete upper, free float barrel, 1-7 twist using 69 grain and up reloads.
 
Oops, just noticed Highpower is metallic sights.
Is there some type of competition that people use AR platform with scope? I am guessing F-class or Benchrest.
Silhouette?
 
I believe NRA has a “AROS” class - Any Rifle Optical Site

Shot prone along with the Sling Shooters
 
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Bump up the trigger to 4.5 lbs and you should be good for Service Rifle.

There is some other rules, but right now with what little info you have provided that is all you have to change.

So it looks like there was a rule change to allow optics. Maybe I still need to keep the trigger down?
 
NRA High Power is changing service rifle rules due to the use of the M4. Optics are allowed but there are power limits. Sorry to say I shoot service rifle the A2 style with irons so I haven't paid real good attention to the changes to be knowledgeable. I don't know what the CMP is doing. I shoot the John C. Garand matches with them. Rules have been relaxed here a little too.

White Oak Arms has a line on a scope designed for the new rules but man, that thing is expensive. Not WOA fault though these are good guys and AR parts are reasonable for the quality.
 
We’re seeing more rule changes for allowed equip in the last handful of years than the last couple decades before it.

Last season was:

optics under 4.5x
Triggers over 4.5#
No adjustable gas blocks
Pic rails at least half length of rail at 3, 6, 9, and 12
Nothing over 20”

The only thing I can say, whatever you build today won’t likely be at the forefront of the rules in a season or two, and the NRA HP and CMP rules are just disparate enough to ALMOST make two rifles necessary if you’re going to swap between the two. For most folks, both aren’t available locally, so jumping into the one nearest you, and building a suitable rifle makes the most sense.
 
The NRA Highpower AR15/M16 service rifle rules are pretty much the same as the CMP rules, to the extent that you can use the same rifle for both. There certainly have been a ton of equipment changes in the last couple of years which I think have been a welcome change. Its slightly spiced up a dying sport.
 
@Laphroaig is correct in saying the same rifle can be used in boht - which is to say, if a guy uses a model which is outdated by the standards of either sanctioning body, then yes, a shooter can build a rifle which satisfies the requirements of either. If you're riding the line for the rulebook in either, it's two rifles, and probably will be modified next season...
 
I don't see it that way.

To me, the M16/AR15 Service rifle rules describe exactly the same weapon.

CMP specifically does not allow adjustable gas blocks, whereas NRA specifies the gas system must "adhere to the original M-16 rifle design". Piston gas systems allowed in both.

CMP specifies 20" max barrel length, not to exceed 21 1/4 " including the flash suppressor, NRA just specifies 20" barrel.

Both allow adjustable stocks and extended bolt releases. As previously mentioned, same trigger weights and optic specs.

Tensions between the 2 governing bodies haven't reached the depth where they can't agree on the definition of a service rifle. As for next year, we'll just have to wait and see.
 
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Oops, just noticed Highpower is metallic sights.
Is there some type of competition that people use AR platform with scope? I am guessing F-class or Benchrest.
Silhouette?
IMO you shouldn't choose the type of match you will compete in by the rifle you now have. Choose the discipline that you think you will like most and then adapt your equipment to the rules.

You should like what you're doing first, then work at being good at it.
 
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