New Auto Breech Lock Pro

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Geez, how much is one of these things going to cost by the time you have it accessorized to where it is as progressive as a Dillon or Hornady?

As walkalong said the press is 125,
Shell plate $19
Safety prime $22
Autodrum powder measure $38
Case feeder $26
Bullet feeder $35

So $265 if you need everything. I am opting out of the bullet feeder and already have the powder measure so my cost to add it to my collection will be $192. I will also need 2 more shell plates and will probably get 8 more bushings to pop dies in and out. This will free up 5 turret heads which I’m constantly adding so there is $60 of eventual savings in that for me.
 
I would love to see a video of the case loader and bullet loader in action. Are we saying that they are the same as on the Pro1000?
Lee has vids of most of their equipment on the Lee website.
Bullet Feeder:
https://leeprecision.com/b-f-kit-9mm-.365to.46ln.html
I have no experience with a Lee bullet feeder, so cannot comment on it, except to say it is an add-on to the bullet seating die/station and does not require a separate station.
:D
 
As walkalong said the press is 125,
Shell plate $19
Safety prime $22
Autodrum powder measure $38
Case feeder $26
Bullet feeder $35

So $265 if you need everything. I am opting out of the bullet feeder and already have the powder measure so my cost to add it to my collection will be $192. I will also need 2 more shell plates and will probably get 8 more bushings to pop dies in and out. This will free up 5 turret heads which I’m constantly adding so there is $60 of eventual savings in that for me.

That's not bad, even for a startup without any Lee parts on hand. If it works well. I am sure somebody will be along with a review.
 
Lee has vids of most of their equipment on the Lee website.
Bullet Feeder:
https://leeprecision.com/b-f-kit-9mm-.365to.46ln.html
I have no experience with a Lee bullet feeder, so cannot comment on it, except to say it is an add-on to the bullet seating die/station and does not require a separate station.
:D


I added one to my Loadmaster just out of curiosity and to tinker. It was easy to setup and worked well. Only negative for me was it fed a bullet every pull of the handle. There are mods to change that. It was a no gain for me as I look in every case. Just as easy to look in case for powder level and set a bullet as your looking. I’ll set it up on Pro 4000 at some point.

The press is $106 from Midsouth. Have plenty of stuff laying in cabinets to outfit it. $106 plus shell plate is easy enough. Probably same for most folks with Lee equipment.
 
Good catch Livin_Cincy.....very enlightening! the following quote is from said instruction manual:

"The Auto Breech Lock Pro will automatically index with cartridges up to 2.30” (58mm) long. Removing the index rod and manual indexing allows loading most longer
action rifle cartridges like the 30/06. Not having the auto index makes the press just as efficient as the popular and expensive Dillon 550™."

Don't know what that tells you, but it tells me that Lee has rifle loading on their minds for this puppy......phase 2 maybe? Any question which press they targeted to compete with?;)
 
I am already getting a bad feeling!:eek:

INSTALLING Automatic Bullet Feeder accessory
RECOMMENDED FOR ADVANCED USERS ONLY. Incorrect use will be a frustrating experience.

Lubricate these points often
with STP Motor Treatment

Seriously?? That is the lube of choice??
 
And Glock manual still says to not use reloads in their pistols ... and countless match shooters will keep on shooting reloads in their Glocks week after week in defiance. :eek:

Now that Gen5 Glocks have conventional square cut land/groove rifling, I bet more people will shoot lead/coated lead reloads in Glocks ... ignoring infinite wisdom of Glock. :D
 
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I am already getting a bad feeling!:eek:

INSTALLING Automatic Bullet Feeder accessory
RECOMMENDED FOR ADVANCED USERS ONLY. Incorrect use will be a frustrating experience.

Lubricate these points often
with STP Motor Treatment

Seriously?? That is the lube of choice??


Great lube for reloading. Everything from the ram to the cases themselves. Slicker’n snout.
 
I am already getting a bad feeling!:eek:

INSTALLING Automatic Bullet Feeder accessory
RECOMMENDED FOR ADVANCED USERS ONLY. Incorrect use will be a frustrating experience.
I'm not sure why you'd feel bad.

I wouldn't personally recommend using the bullet feeder at all as I've found it doesn't hold up well over the long haul. One of those very good ideas that wasn't executed well during manufacture.

Has your experience with this item been a lot different?

Lubricate these points often
with STP Motor Treatment

Seriously?? That is the lube of choice??
STP is an excellent lube and commonly available at non-reloading centric stores.

Have you had bad experiences using STP as a lube or are you just a reloader who insist on proprietary lubes?
 
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Excitement builds as the Fastest, Easiest, Most Economical Progressive Press Ever Made (in the history of the world) prepares to find it's home on reloaders benches all over the planet!

As zero-hour approaches, this of course presents to some of us a dilemma. What hardware presently bolted on our bench has to go bye bye in order to make room?

STP is an excellent lube and commonly available at non-reloading centric stores.

I agree if it works, no problem.

Don't know what that tells you, but it tells me that Lee has rifle loading on their minds for this puppy......phase 2 maybe? Any question which press they targeted to compete with?

Camdex???
 
Excitement builds as the Fastest, Easiest, Most Economical Progressive Press Ever Made (in the history of the world) prepares to find it's home on reloaders benches all over the planet!

As zero-hour approaches, this of course presents to some of us a dilemma. What hardware presently bolted on our bench has to go bye bye in order to make room?

.......Camdex???

Well, being that RCBS finally complied with my requirements to give their Pro Chucker 7 a try.....and I just back-ordered it....I'm out for at least a year.......but waiting on pins and needles to see how yall like this little Lee. I do have the bench dilemma.....got to reorganize big time.

Camdex! You bet.....gotta be.!:)
 
I'm not sure why you'd feel bad.

I wouldn't personally recommend using the bullet feeder at all as I've found it doesn't hold up well over the long haul. One of those very good ideas that wasn't executed well during manufacture.

Has your experience with this item been a lot different?


STP is an excellent lube and commonly available at non-reloading centric stores.

Have you had bad experiences using STP as a lube or are you just a reloader who insist on proprietary lubes?

I am not overally "worried"

OK, as my previous post somehow "disappeared" I'll "bite"

The words "experienced" and Frustration" were my point.

As to STP Motor Treatment,
I do not think that I have ever seen it recommended by a Manufacturer as a lube for machines of any type??. But of course someone will search and find some. Maybe LEE is the first?

As to LUBES of any kind, most is snake oil advertising and should go under the best lube for guns or the best way to clean brass. There are so many "tests" out there feel free to chose. Perhaps Marvel Mystery Oil?

Which Lube do you use? Do you use STP on your press(s) or do you prefer Dillon brand?

Also STP MOTOR treatment is a fuel stabilizer. For a lube it probably would be STP OIL treatment.??
Does LEE really want Fuel stabilzer as a Lube? Looks pretty thin.


Does OIL treatment work better than synthetic oil? After the press is used should one switch to High Mileage?

"Oil ram using STP™ motor oil treatment. Using
any oil, lubricate link bolts and ram pin every
few thousand rounds"
 
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"Oil ram using STP™ motor oil treatment. Using
any oil, lubricate link bolts and ram pin every
few thousand rounds"
If this is Lee's quote, it is you that seems to be confusing the oil treatment with the fuel treatment, as it clearly says "STP motor oil treatment"

Back it its heyday -- Remember Andy Granatilli? STP was often recommended as an engine assembly compound or lubricant because of its high film strength to help keep parts together as things are being torqued and to provide initial lube while the oil pump fills up all the pathways on initial startup.

Perhaps Marvel Mystery Oil?
So far this is about the best thing I've found for cleaning my .22lr suppressors -- penetrates almost as well as Kroil, is a lot cheaper, and does a good job of carrying away carbon particles. A bit on a paper towel to wipe my hands afterwards is the fastest way to remove the black that gets around the fingernails when doing "dirty jobs", followed of course by a good soap and water clean up as it has a bit of stink you need to wash off.

I think when your press needs lube, darn near anything works to make a big difference -- even simple Silcone Spray lube slicks up my Dillon after its started to get "rough" from usage.
 
Back it its heyday -- Remember Andy Granatilli? STP was often recommended as an engine assembly compound or lubricant because of its high film strength to help keep parts together as things are being torqued and to provide initial lube while the oil pump fills up all the pathways on initial startup.
I think this was my first introduction to STP also...I loved Andy at the Indy 500

I do remember using STP for my first engine rebuild in high school...I even remember professional slot car racers using STP...and STP has a long history of being used to help guns, mostly 1911s, run. Although it has mostly been supplanted by Mobile 1 floating on a layer of lithium grease
 
The words "experienced" and Frustration" were my point.
I have to wonder how you arrive at you point when neither of these terms exist in the link. What exist is the term, "frustrating experience"

The section you appear to be referring to states, "RECOMMENDED FOR ADVANCED USERS ONLY. Incorrect use will be a frustrating experience."
Which seems appropriate when you consider the number of threads lamenting the trials and tribulations of shooters using the better engineered RCBS and Hornady bullet feeders.

I posed the question to you that you haven't responded to, "Has your experience with this item been a lot different?"

I have worked with the Lee, RCBS, Hornady and Mr Bulletfeeder bullet feeding systems and have been able to make them all work. Based on that experience, I don't have any reservations as to Lee's recommendation.
 
If this is Lee's quote, it is you that seems to be confusing the oil treatment with the fuel treatment, as it clearly says "STP motor oil treatment"

Back it its heyday -- Remember Andy Granatilli? STP was often recommended as an engine assembly compound or lubricant because of its high film strength to help keep parts together as things are being torqued and to provide initial lube while the oil pump fills up all the pathways on initial startup.

So far this is about the best thing I've found for cleaning my .22lr suppressors -- penetrates almost as well as Kroil, is a lot cheaper, and does a good job of carrying away carbon particles. A bit on a paper towel to wipe my hands afterwards is the fastest way to remove the black that gets around the fingernails when doing "dirty jobs", followed of course by a good soap and water clean up as it has a bit of stink you need to wash off.

I think when your press needs lube, darn near anything works to make a big difference -- even simple Silcone Spray lube slicks up my Dillon after its started to get "rough" from usage.


Well "not exactly" if you look at the insert on the PDF of the manual and the blow up of the ram. What does it say??
 
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I've been waffling about ordering this or the loadmaster. The ability to do 30-06 length cases is the last bit of info I needed. I just preordered from midsouth along with a case feeder and 9mm shellplate. If it works as expected I'll try the bulllet feeder and add 357, 45acp, 223, and 44 shellplates. Too bad they don't make a 45-70 shellplate.
 
It says right in the manual "Oil ram using STP™ motor oil treatment. Using any oil, lubricate link bolts and ram pin every few thousand rounds."

Either way I will disregard this advice and oil the ram with CLP as I always have.
 
I have to wonder how you arrive at you point when neither of these terms exist in the link. What exist is the term, "frustrating experience"

The section you appear to be referring to states, "RECOMMENDED FOR ADVANCED USERS ONLY. Incorrect use will be a frustrating experience."
Which seems appropriate when you consider the number of threads lamenting the trials and tribulations of shooters using the better engineered RCBS and Hornady bullet feeders.

I posed the question to you that you haven't responded to, "Has your experience with this item been a lot different?"
No I did not answer as "incorrect use" will no doubt cause frustration (of anything!)

I have worked with the Lee, RCBS, Hornady and Mr Bulletfeeder bullet feeding systems and have been able to make them all work. Based on that experience, I don't have any reservations as to Lee's recommendation.

Yes, once again I am "dyslexic" and used the word experienced for the actual word Advanced. Thanks for clarifying that.

So is that advanced in reloading or advanced with the new press?. Ones level of frustration is hard to define.

You then, should be able to lube and have the Lee functioning like a well oiled machine regardless of the lubrication material used.

This bantering and nit picking minutia over a non existing press is just not productive.

Enjoy
 
This bantering and nit picking minutia over a non existing press is just not productive.
I agree.

We should all wait and see how the new press performs.

As to lubrication, my sentiment has been wherever there is metal-to-metal, metal-to-nylon/plastic, plastic-to-elastomer contact, we need to lubricate either with liquid or dry lubricant.

I have lubed my Lee presses with BreakFree CLP or whatever grade of motor oil I had on hand along with graphite powder/No 2 pencil lead shaving for decades with very good results.

I am sure any lubricant such as STP or even cooking/coconut oil would be better than no lubricant on metal-to-metal surfaces.

It's almost April for Pro 4000 to start shipping!
 
This bantering and nit picking minutia over a non existing press is just not productive.
What would be more productive is if you'd answer my question which I have now posted twice.

...or you can ignore it again and we can justifiably take it that you're just bantering along without the benefit of experience on the subject which you are posting so authoritatively on
 
I think LEE has STP as lube in several of their manuals.
It is cheap, available and last a lifetime.

I like non toxic stuff like Balistol or food grade mineral oil.
 
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