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OR, one could train while adrenaline is coursing through the body, and develop accuracy under pressure; it is possible. OTOH, a few extra rounds on tap never hurts. 
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Terry Chadron
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Agree - it just takes the extra efforts. Just owning a firearm or having a CCW does not get one "combat" ready.
OR, one could train while adrenaline is coursing through the body, and develop accuracy under pressure; it is possible. OTOH, a few extra rounds on tap never hurts.
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Ahhh! That's why I have so many.
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My two cents here, and it may not matter to you since I read that you got some 147-grain 9mm ammo...but anyway...you're getting the 640 from family.
Free gun. Sell it for $500. It retails for $580-590 on Bud's.
The 3" .357 sells on Bud's for $609, cash discount.
Keep your 9. Sell the .38. Buy the .357. $100 in the gun. Easy decision for me.
Free gun. Sell it for $500. It retails for $580-590 on Bud's.
The 3" .357 sells on Bud's for $609, cash discount.
Keep your 9. Sell the .38. Buy the .357. $100 in the gun. Easy decision for me.
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Hi, Justin.
First, I'd recommend you rethink being a minimalist. Either that or reconsider your basics. For example, accept the fact that you'll need a .22LR pistol, the Ruger .22LR autos being a good place to start.
Your 9mm is okay for bear. With jacketed rounds, you'll get plenty of penetration. A .357 SP-101 or a used Ruger Speed-Six/Security-Six will combine penetration with expansion and the .357 is a super caliber and a wonderful round. But, if you're intent on being a minimalist, a 9mm will penetrate a bear's brain. The thing you need do is aim for the nose, not the head. You need good penetration with good placement, and many people make the mistake of aiming for the head. That many times will deflect the bullet and defeat your purpose, and the 9mm is an outstanding penetrator.
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Interesting concept. So...people who a bunch of something are obsessed? I've got at least 5 grand worth of tool out in my garage. Am I obsessed?
I should sell all of them and keep only an adjustable wrench, one each flat tip and phillips screwdrivers, and a hammer? Tools are tools. Buy the right one for the job. Owning more than 10 is not an obsession.
Didn't mean any offense by my choice of words. I guess I could have said I'm not a collector or that firearms are not high up on my hobby list or something like that.
I do think some people are unhealthily obsessed with firearms but I'm not accusing anyone specifically. It's just a weird cultural thing I see. It doesn't just have to be guns either but when it is I find it to be unsettling because of the violent nature, like the kid in Florida.
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This is like the second or third time someone has said I need a 22 and I just don't get it. I really don't feel like I need a gun if it doesn't fill an intended purpose. I target shoot with what I have and I have no intention on hunting small game so why do I need these?
I have a 336 because we have a really nice county range here and I find it enjoyable to shoot a bit of a distance. I'll probably never hunt but I could.
I kept the 500 modified choke barrel because I was once invited to shoot sporting clays here and found it also enjoyable so at the chance I ever get to do it again I now don't have to borrow a gun. Again, I probably will never hunt but I could.
My CW9 is for defense, hopefully I never need it but I have it. I could use one of the other two for this purpose but they are cumbersome compared to a handgun. I also target shoot occasionally to keep my skill up.
I can't think of any reason to own something else. I thought about cutting these down to just two but I can actually come up with a reason to have each so they all have stayed. No reason for anything else though. I'm not much of a what if scenario kinda guy, I either need something or I don't.
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You like shooting clays, have you ever been to a Steel Challenge competition? A fantastic way to practice shooting fast, focus on the fundamentals, and yet keep costs down is to use a .22 pistol.
This is why you should have a .22. A couple thousand shots (a few Steel matches) will easily pay for your .22 pistol. You can compete at Steel with your 9mm to try it out before you buy if you want. You'll probably get addicted pretty quickly if you enjoy shooting handguns at all.
This is why you should have a .22. A couple thousand shots (a few Steel matches) will easily pay for your .22 pistol. You can compete at Steel with your 9mm to try it out before you buy if you want. You'll probably get addicted pretty quickly if you enjoy shooting handguns at all.
No haven't. I did a 3 gun match once and did really well actually and had fun. I honestly only shoot like 2-3 times a year. I also, hike and bike and climb and paddle and s few other hobbies on top of going to school and working.
I always thought the cowboy shoots looked fun. I try either of those if someone in the Reno area would invite me.
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Oh....Ok. sooooo. People who are obsessed with firearms (have a lot of firearms) are violent in nature.
How many guns, would you say, constitutes a violent nature? I have 10, but I've never hurt or threatened anyone. How many more can I own before I spontaneously become a mass murderer? (I want to stay within the limit.)
Now I'm not playing this Socratic Method game with you just to fake being offended or to upset you. But what you're espousing are the base arguments of anti-gun people everywhere. (I work in a public school; I hear it every. single. day.) The basis of your argument is that the guns you own are safe. The number of guns you own is a "normal" (whatever that is) number of guns for a normal person to own. Everyone else who does not mimic your pattern of gun ownership is dangerous and violent.
The scary part is that you're not alone. Many people feel the same. It's the same kind of feeling that gets us laws limiting how many guns per month or per year we can buy. It's what gets us news stories, such as "The gunman had three hundred bullets in his home!" (I shoot that much in a month. Every month.
Guess I'm feeling the pressure of being vilified.
No because I'm saying these are not necessarily all the same thing. Some one can own a lot of guns and not be obsessed, some one can own a lot of guns and be obsessed with guns and the sport of shooting or someone can own a lot of guns and be obsessed with the violent nature of them. The third one is the problem. I'm not accusing you or anyone of the third one.
We only got on this subject because I tried to describe myself and maybe poorly chose my words. It's ok man, you don't have to be defensive. Maybe I simply should have stated that I didn't desire anymore because I have other things to dedicate my time and money to. Sorry.
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I understood what you meant from the beginning.
No need to be sorry for someone else conflating what you said and meant.
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My Russian prof in college only kept a Radom 9mm Parabellum.
He kept one in every room of his house.
He kept one in every room of his house.
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I am certain that you are way over the limit - send me your address, and I will pick up enough of them to get you back in compliance with reasonable gun control. (that would be 8 or 9 of them). SCNR...
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The fact that you can't think of any reason to own a Ruger .22LR is exactly why you should have one. After a year you won't be asking those types of questions. You'll know! When I worked for a federal agency, I asked my friend to ask an entire office of Treasury agents (IRS Inspection) what kind of handgun they would pick for everything if they could have only one. Before he hung up I asked him which he would personally choose, and it was a stainless steel Mark II 5.5-incher. He asked me the same question and I was irked because I'd chosen the same gun, and though I was really drawn to the 4.75-inch and 6-inch fixed sight models, I really felt if I could only have ONE, I'd need an adjustable sight model. The next day I called him to get the verdict for the rest of his office and, to a one, they had all chosen the Ruger Mark II; however, some picked blued guns and others chose the 7-inch model.
While I was talking to him, another guy in the office called in and my friend had to put me on hold to talk to him (he was calling from the hospital where he'd had appendicitis). When my friend came back from talking to the guy, I asked how he was and he said, when asked, that he'd choose the 5.5-inch model, too. So that's a hundred percent. I didn't specify caliber or need -- just that it had to be only handgun. It didn't count as a duty weapon, however.
The Ruger was my second choice, but I had to make it my third gun because I lacked the money at the time. But I've always wondered if it had been my first gun whether it would have been my only gun. I've always thought it was very okay for self defense and especially as a camp gun. It would not have been a good gun for bears, but anything else on two legs it would have. Heck, even a little kit gun like the S&W 63 is a gun that grows on a person.
Anyway, the missing element here is...fun. The gun is fun to shoot, it's great for kids and it's a good self defense gun for the two-legged types that sometimes are a bother.
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