Revolver Sickness

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A friend of mine was a retired deputy sheriff. After many years of retirement he not only carried a revolver, but he carried a Uberti peacemaker clone.

He passed at the age of 82, with his 45 Colt on his hip.
 
I like to carry my revolver in my back pocket when out for walks on my country road...with, or without a holster. Pachmayr grips make it fit my large hand.
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We all have our comfort zone.I love revolvers(Have many) and 1911's(have multiple) most but I carry two semi(not 1911's) auto's daily.Go figure.
 
The Glock has its place. People love them. Personally I find the grip on some models awkward, and many folks I have known the people have had issues, whether they were manufacturer related, after market related or user induced. My personal belief is that the revolver is the best bet. You do not rely on a magazine you cannot limp wrist it and you don't have to worry about the slide coming back inside of your pocket, chambering a round etc. We can say well you can be more accurate or reach out farther with a bigger gun and you should be hitting targets at 5,10,25 yards. That't not what I carry for, I carry to hit targets from 0 to 15 FEET not yards and to have the option to do so without out ever drawing my weapon. I use the skinny j frame service grips and they are not a pleasure to shoot but I am not shooting this weapon for pleasure (although it is fun for me.) For long range - I still have a single action capability. I do not intend to spray and pray or glock-snipe someone. I intend to have 5 surer then ship rounds at close range when needed. If I have to engage a target at 25 yards - chances are I am in a great deal of legal trouble. If 5 up close does not do the job the Stainless steel frame will work excellent as a pair of brass knuckles. All of us consider what we will do if the time arises that requires action and we really do not know what we will do. My duty is to myself and to my family, but I feel if I do not act and take the shot I could not live with myself. I hope that others who are honest people who have made the decision to carry and train with a firearm are willing to use it to help others. Its not being a hero - its not being a coward.
 
I honestly believe it’s a subliminal safety thing, or with me it’s outward... I don’t like striker fired guns in my pants and I don’t care what people say about it. It’s “more safer” to have a heavy trigger.

J frames also sit well in the pocket. Also tuck well at 1 o’clock which is the quickest place for me to draw with the clothes I wear. You’ll never catch me with a glock next to my jewels.

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It's another alien plot. First they used subliminal messages on TV to force everyone to shoot large hi-cap autos with three-dot sights at the range, but only carry J-frames with invisible sights and five rounds of an ancient black-powder cartridge.

Then they multiplied the rifle calibers until no two weapons can use the same cartridges. US civilians have millions of guns, but the .50 Beowulf user might as well be on another planet from his 6.8 SPC-carrying neighbor.

They mean to make it... THEIR WORLD.

 
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I use to watch "The Invaders" when I was a kid and kind of felt that every time David Vincent got a rental car there was a snubnose .38 already in the glove box for him!
 
For a couple of years I carried a 642, and still do occasionally. I have total confidence that it will go bang when I pull the trigger, but my accuracy with this gun is limited to very, very close distance shooting. Several years ago I was just casually looking at smaller semi's at the gun shop and chanced upon the Ruger LC9s. The super sweet trigger is what got me interested. Having 7+1 of 9mm added to the attractiveness of the gun. But my ability to shoot it much more accurately at more realistic defensive distances (5 to 10 yards) and its proven reliability have made it my every day carry for a few years now. I carry in an OWB at 3 oclock or in a DeSantis pocket holster and find it is just as easy to conceal as the 642, and somewhat thinner. Sometimes when I just make a quick run to the supermarket at night I grab the 642, but my normal carry is the LC9s and an extra mag clipped in my left pocket.
 
I've stopped arguing with my subconscious predilections. I like revolvers, I can shoot revolvers, I have decades of familiarity with the type...I pack revolvers.

I may have told this story on here before. Some years back there was a disturbance in my neighborhood, complete with cars with bright blue strobes. As I woke myself up and opened the lockbox, my hand went right past the excellent SIG automatic and closed instead around a battered old .357 revolver. Why?
 
You said it yourself. You are choosing a firearm that is less powerful carries less ammunition, and is less effective in your hands than another you have access to. Ask yourself why you are doing this, because it doesn't make sense to me.

A .38 Special isn't less powerful than a .380 by any stretch, add +P and it competes with 9mm. Yes, a five shot does carry less ammo, but the ability to have many rounds has yet to prove itself out in one on one public situations. We draw a gun and millions of times a year the perp does exactly what bullies do, reassess their risk and stop their behavior. As we are not required to run toward the sound of gunshots, and our primary course of action is to protect ourselves and any loved ones, we do the best we can to avoid the confrontation in the first place. And carrying a more effective firearm isn't always a good thing, I'm not carrying my AR pistol with 30 round mags out into the mall or movie theater. It gets hard to juggle the popcorn and drink.

Let's look at another recent event - Colt reintroduced it's snubnose, calling it the Cobra. Now, for all the history Colt has making small automatics, they saw the market was better for sales with a .38 snub. Those have been made and sold for generations since the early 1900's, .25ACP even predates .38. the issue is that .38 Special is highly effective at its job and definitely delivers more downrange than .380. This is why people choose it, and the snub nose has been modified in design over the years to carry well.

In terms of design and configuration, a lugged barrel .38 with extractor rod housed in it's protected recess, a covered hammer, and it's shape alone, which isn't square or blocky but much more organic which tends to conceal it better, has become common. If the hammer is exposed many draw with their thumb over it to prevent snags and get the hammer back to SA more quickly. In comparison a pocket auto rarely has a flush fitting rear slide and has to be tapered considerably as it sticks out over the web of the hand. Add a hammer and it protrudes even more than the revolver. Then there is the issue of grip - a blocky auto with standard magazine feed cannot be altered much at all. Shape, width, angle are all fixed. A revolver can have slim wooden grips, add a T grip behind the trigger guard, go larger with a pinky rest, or full size, in any material you like, any contour, any angle, checkered, rough, and/or rubber. A .38 snub has dozens offered on the market, but some autos very little.My Kahr polymer .380 has exactly one - the standard molded plastic grip. None others exist or ever will.

Ammo? You can upgrade in some auto calibers one step, if you carry a .38 you have a deep list of choices. An auto has a much narrower tolerance for lighter loads and that's the reason the military is forced to work closely with their ammo contractor to always meet a psi requirement to ensure reliable functioning, something the 9mm has suffered from since the 1900's. Revolvers that can ignite a primer will fire that round, an auto may too, but immediately suffer a stoppage that takes it out of action. While the auto owner goes thru his drill the revolver owner simply pulls the trigger again and the next round comes up. It's a one finger stoppage drill "clearing" the chamber and cycling a new round in place.

I used to think the self loading semi auto was the premier choice in handguns and was raised in that environment working with military weapons. Given some reflection and study, tho, I appreciate the long history of snub nosed guns in long service, in direct competition for civilian sales, and there are good reasons to have one as a primary carry. Given that even in military units who carry guns daily choose snub guns as an option, there's a lot of us who don't discount them as much as some do.

I'd much rather have my Taurus 85 Ultralite turned over for evidence after the fact than an auto costing three times as much. Some of us understand that when you spend $600 on tiny auto that it doesn't make the ammo perform 3X better, or make you 3X more aware or accurate. The gun is only a tool. It's why I chose a V6 shortbed pickup truck to commute and do chores rather than a four door dually diesel. It wouldn't do anything more than spend a lot more money. We each have our priorities.
 
To each his own, I guess. I'm thankful that today's small autos are nothing like those of the bygone days of yore. They are light, concealable, reliable, and very economic- most of all, available in 9mm, 40, and 45. As far as the thought of losing a gun-possibly permanently- as evidence, autos like the S&W shield (available for about $300 OTD with smart shopping) up to the Glock 26/27 (bringing the cost up to around $500 new- less if you are blue label eligible) fit comfortably in my budget for what I would be willing to lose as "exhibit A", as well as the confidence in performing 7,8,10, or even more times, if needed. Various models of the XD, as well as Rugers, and many more also fit in this bracket, and in my experience, all will tolerate just about any type of ammunition that anyone should be carrying for defensive use. In addition, the 3 calibers mentioned above are offered in many choices as far as ammunition power (std., +p. +p+, etc) and endless options for cheaper factory fodder.
 
marb4 wrote:
By all objective standards the Glock has it all over the Smith.

Really?

You can know ahead of time that your Glock will reliably feed and function with a previously untested load? With the S&W revolver, it's pretty much a situation of "if it fits, it fires".
 
Really?

You can know ahead of time that your Glock will reliably feed and function with a previously untested load? With the S&W revolver, it's pretty much a situation of "if it fits, it fires".

Unless, of course, it goes "pffthut" and the bullet sticks in the forcing cone. I know, the probability is small...
 
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