Wow, very impressed with this 7.62x39 AR15 barrel

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I am constantly fiddling with my AR's changing barrels looking for the next thing. My favorite is my 16" 7.62x39 side charging build, which I was using a Delta Team Tactical 16" barrel. When I got the barrel they sent me the wrong one. I ordered a medium profile barrel but they sent me a bull barrel. I sent them an email letting them know but the one I wanted was out of stock so I put it together anyway with the bull barrel. That barrel has been working great and shot 2 moa with wolf ammo but it is really heavy.

Well recently I was on there site ordering a BCG for a 9mm build and saw they had the barrel I originally wanted in stock so I ordered it.

https://www.deltateamtactical.com/Famous-No-Fail-16-762X39-AR15-Melonite-Hbar-Barrel_p_4056.html

Barrel came in today so I swapped it out after work. Just looking down the barrel the bore looks absolutely awful. The chamber was nicely centered and the throat cut nicely, but there was so much burs and tooling marks in the barrel it looked like they had rifled a sewer pipe. It would tear all the lint off a cotton patch run down the barrel. So I got out some lapping compound, covered a patch with it and ran it through the bore to smooth it out. It polished out nicely in just like 20 strokes or so but still has alot of tooling marks on the lands. Here it is on my upper. It weighs 32.5 ounces on my scale and the old one was 37.5

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I shot one round just to check the gas setting, no adjustment needed. Then 4 more over the chrono. 2430 fps average with wolf MC 124 gr HP's.

Took it out to the bench to shoot it, and here is the first group at 100 yards. The round above the target was the first shot. I adjusted down 2 minutes and right .5 minutes and shot 4 more. Group measures .70" center to center.

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Next group I adjusted up .5 minutes. Group measures exactly 1" center to center.

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One last group to verify. I know you'll think this sounds like I'm making it up but I pulled the last shop high because I had a wood tick crawling on my face. It measures .9" without the pulled shot and 1.5" with it.

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I am absolutely thrilled with the accuracy from this barrel considering I'm shooting steel case wolf ammo I paid $4.20 a box for. I did have one round that had a bolt over base failure to feed, whereas I have never had one single malfunction of any kind with the old one. When I was putting it together I noticed this has the normal feed ramps for a 223 barrel extension instead of the oversize feed ramps that work best in 7.62 barrel.

New barrel on the left, old one on the right.

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I didn't want to mess with a brand new barrel before I knew if it shot or not, but after shooting it I took the barrel back out of the upper and opened up the feed ramps to roughly match the old barrel

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So anyway I am ecstatic how this barrel is shooting and I'm thinking of ordering another just to put on the shelf.

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Very nice!
Some surprisingly ugly barrels still shoot well, my savages come to mind lol. The 6.5g barrel I got from Radical was pretty ugly too, but also shot well.
 
So looks like a sewer pipe inside until you lapped it a bit, has incorrect feed ramps on the barrel extension you elected to bubba into submission via Dremel tool, and has induced feeding malfunctions. Plus it’s an absolute pig weight wise.

At least it makes bullets go where you want them to when it is working. Glad you’re happy with it, personally I’d send it back but that’s not an option now.
 
I myself got a x39 AR-15. I got an AR Stoner upper for a STEAL from midway 179.99 due to pricing error. They honored it :)

I got it for basic cheap plinking but I was impressed with accuracy using Wolf ammo so I decided to hand load for it to see what it would do. With CFE BLK and a 135 FTX is a legitimate sub MOA shooter and the Federal Fusion factor load is MOA or slightly larger.

I feel like I got a STEAL on this one. I've been offered $350 for the upper. I refuse to sell it because if I have to replace it there is a snowball's chance in Hades it will shoot this good. Looks we are very happy with our x39's :)
 
Cproducts mags work great, ASC mags are good as well. I’ve had no problems with either.
 
I've got one C-Products and a couple ASC mags but many people I've seen give them a bad rap.

I've got an M16 and both a 16.5" and a 10.5" uppers, I really like the 10.5" suppressed
 
So looks like a sewer pipe inside until you lapped it a bit, has incorrect feed ramps on the barrel extension you elected to bubba into submission via Dremel tool, and has induced feeding malfunctions. Plus it’s an absolute pig weight wise.

At least it makes bullets go where you want them to when it is working. Glad you’re happy with it, personally I’d send it back but that’s not an option now.

Correction, it had one failure to feed before I bubba the feed ramps into submission via carbide die grinder and none sense. I waited to see how it shot before doing that. And it’s not pig heavy, with there respective muzzle devices it’s the same weight as the fluted 20” BA barrel on my matching 223 upper which is what I wanted. If you have any sub moa barrels you would like to dispose of due to there ugly bores I would be happy to rid you of them lol.

Sometimes in life you have to take a chance and give something the benefit of the doubt. My 30-40 Krag bore looks terrible down the bore and is egg shaped and oversized, but it still shoots near moa. I don’t argue with results.
 
I myself got a x39 AR-15. I got an AR Stoner upper for a STEAL from midway 179.99 due to pricing error. They honored it :)

I got it for basic cheap plinking but I was impressed with accuracy using Wolf ammo so I decided to hand load for it to see what it would do. With CFE BLK and a 135 FTX is a legitimate sub MOA shooter and the Federal Fusion factor load is MOA or slightly larger.

I feel like I got a STEAL on this one. I've been offered $350 for the upper. I refuse to sell it because if I have to replace it there is a snowball's chance in Hades it will shoot this good. Looks we are very happy with our x39's :)

Yep this is one of my favorite guns. I was happy when it was a 2 moa gun with commie ammo, but 1 moa is nuts!

What mags do you guys use?

I only have 2 c-products 10 round mags. I’ll probably get another couple sometime but no desire for anything bigger. I have about 500 rounds through the gun since I put it together and the 1 FTF I had with this barrel is the only malfunction I’ve had with it. I also have never cleaned it except to run some patches down the bore.
 
I'm using ASC mags with the black follower that's marked for 7.62x39. However I can tell you they are the exact same follower that the 6.5 Grendel uses but my ASC Grendel mags have a blue follower marked 6.5.

All 4 10 round mags (2 of each) will feed my Grendel and x39 with 100% reliability.
 
I don't have any 10's, mine are all 30 rounders ... I don't have anything chambered in Grendel but maybe some day since I've got a couple Creedmoor's, I could probably load the Grendel pretty easily ... but then I start getting too many calibers and mags ...
 
I'm using ASC mags with the black follower that's marked for 7.62x39. However I can tell you they are the exact same follower that the 6.5 Grendel uses but my ASC Grendel mags have a blue follower marked 6.5.

All 4 10 round mags (2 of each) will feed my Grendel and x39 with 100% reliability.

So you’ve been using the same mags for your Grendel and x39 with good luck?

Will a x39 cartridge allow the bolt to lockup in your Grendel? Just curious to see if this is a potential problem sharing magazines. I imagine it would.
 
I have tried my Grendel mags in my X39 upper they did work perfectly. But I keep them seperate so I don't mix ammo. I wouldn't think the 7.62x39 would chamber in the Grendel because of bullet diameter .310 vs .264 but I haven't tried to know for sure.

And not to sound like a jerk but anyone who ever mixes up ammo in one gun to another needs to slow down and pay more attention.
 
You could never get a 7.62x39 in a grendel chamber due to the neck size. This is only a problem with 5.56 and 300 blackout because the case is shortened, allowing a 300 blackout to headspace on the bullet if crammed in a 5.56 chamber.
 
I don't have much experience and haven't handled a Grendel case in person so wasn't aware the differences and potentials.
 
If I remember correctly the Grendel has less case taper than x39, making it less likely to chamber in a x39 rifle. But I don't have a Grendel around so no ammo to check.
 
If I remember correctly the Grendel has less case taper than x39, making it less likely to chamber in a x39 rifle. But I don't have a Grendel around so no ammo to check.

Grendel will NOT chamber in the x39, as you said it's tapper is much less, sticks about 1/4" from chambering in my SKS. Likewise since the Grendel's shorter, the x39 jams into the neck/shoulder junction before chambering

I actually converted some Grendel brass back to x39 by running it thru a full length sizer untill the bolt would just close on it.
Shot surprisingly well, tho I think it was "headspacing" on either the shoulder body junction, or the taper.
 
Agreed, the only real flaw I think it has, and it shares this with the x39, is that it's capable of generating enough bolt thrust to damage AR bolts when run hot.
 
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