Deer Hunting, what is your minimum cartridge?

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Some of the recent threads about using specific pistol cartridges for deer hunting got me thinking. Rather than pollute those threads I am going to start a new one. I suspect this will be contentious but lets keeps it friendly.

Assuming its legal in your hunting area what is the minimum cartridge you will/have hunted with? Be as specific as you can/like.

I have hunted most of my life in Ohio. I hunted white-tail deer for several years with a 410 slug gun. I have a Winchester 9410 and it's about the most fun shotgun I have ever owned. I didn't buy it to hunt deer with but it shot slugs so well I had to give it a try. I had good success with it when I was willing to hunt within its very limited range. I have taken two decent bucks with my Win 9410. The first with 2.5 inch Remington Sluggers (96gr foster slug at 1830fps) and the second one with a modified Brenneke Silver Slug (cut down to fit in the 2.5 inch chamber, 115gr hard cast Brenneke style slug going 2040fps) out of my Wincehster 9410.

I also took two nice Tennessee White-tail does with a S&W 610. Handloaded 200gr XTP going about 1250fps from a 6.5-inch barrel.

This coming season I will likely be hunting with suppressed 300 AAC Blackout Sub-sonic (proably with the new Hornady load if I can find some), though I still have some work to do to make that a reality and I am still waiting on Uncle Sam.

So what is the minimum cartridge/gun you have taken a deer with?
 
.22Hornet, minimum legal in my state. Killed three with 3-shots opening day of 2016 with .218Bee. 40gr JHP over 12.5gr Hod. Lil’Gun.
 

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Smallest center-fire was a 7.62x39.
17 HMR is great for filling crop damage permits. Hit it in the ear holes.
 
Thanks guys, I am glad I am not the only one that like the challenge of using minimal cartridge/firearms for deer hunting.
 
.22lr for damage control use.

.223 otherwise, tho I prefer .243 or larger these days. I just don't shoot at game enough anymore to have the confidence I did when I lived on the farm.
 
.357 mag out of a blackhawk was my minimum. 50 yards, open sights. I cant speak for rifle. Ive only kept .30 cal and above. I have a .30 carbine but Ive never tried it on whitetail. Always had better options.
 
Using anything less than 338 Lapua Magnum is inhumane and irresponsible!.......well no, not really. In fact, like all things firearm related, it depends. In areas where my longest open shot is likely to be less than 75 yards, I've used and been comfortable with 30 carbine from a M1 carbine, using good expanding ammo. Were talking down in the swamps, close in stuff. Open fields... 270 Winchester from a Remington 7600. Reasonable expected ranges 100-300 yards. Beyond 400 yards...no idea, I've never fired anything that I can repeatedly hit an 8" target at that range under stress, so even a 50 BMG would not be enough in my hands at that range. Maybe one of these would work:D howitzer.jpg
 
My general rule for deer is 1000ftlbf.

That ends up excluding pistols, .22, and limits .223 to shorter ranges. Gives the .243 a range of 400-450 yds.

Some people use pistols, some use .22s, some use the 1997 Buick. To each their own. But if I was being asked to recommend a round it would be following the 1000ftlbf rule.
 
My last 4 were taken with single shots with 223- 75 grain Hornady BTHP match. I recently got my permission slip from Uncle Sam, and have been experimenting with RAR ranch in 300 B-O. So far with Hornady Black subs, its doing 1" groups at 50 yards, and its "movie quiet" with my silencerco omega. I got lucky and found 2 boxes of the new sub-x at bass pro, but I haven't done any testing with them yet. I intend to test them for accuracy, and take down a possum or 2, possibly a coyote, to get an idea of the damage before I try it on deer.
 
My general rule for deer is 1000ftlbf.

That ends up excluding pistols, .22, and limits .223 to shorter ranges. Gives the .243 a range of 400-450 yds.

Some people use pistols, some use .22s, some use the 1997 Buick. To each their own. But if I was being asked to recommend a round it would be following the 1000ftlbf rule.

I have read the 1000 ft-lb number on the internet many times but I have never found a good logical construct behind that number. Do you have a reference for where that number of 1000 ft-lbs comes from? It reads sort of like the old myth going around that you need to drink 8-glasses of water a day. I think its a fine number but its does not seem to have much solid scientific or historic support other than being repeated often. So far I have gone as low as 700 ft-lbs but if I end up using 300 BO sub-sonic it will be even lower (=< 500 ft-lbs).

My last 4 were taken with single shots with 223- 75 grain Hornady BTHP match. I recently got my permission slip from Uncle Sam, and have been experimenting with RAR ranch in 300 B-O. So far with Hornady Black subs, its doing 1" groups at 50 yards, and its "movie quiet" with my silencerco omega. I got lucky and found 2 boxes of the new sub-x at bass pro, but I haven't done any testing with them yet. I intend to test them for accuracy, and take down a possum or 2, possibly a coyote, to get an idea of the damage before I try it on deer.

Waiting on the stamp for my AAC 7.62-SDN-6, it should be here before deer season. I will be running it on a Frankenstein 16-inch 300 BO AR I built two years ago. I am very interested in the new Hornady Sub-X 190gr sub-sonics. If those don't work for me I will probably try to look to hand-load the Lehigh Defense bullet. I am almost looking forward to silently popping the noisy squirrels from my deer stand as I am shooting a deer with it. :)

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Next season rifle if everything comes together. Imagine the KAK Flash-Can removed and a AAC 51 tooth suppressor mount and SDN-6 mounted. :D
 
I've taken several with a .357 magnum, one from a lever carbine, M92 Rossi. That doe was at 80 yards and the bullet is down to around 800 ft lbs at that point and dropping. I would limit carbines to 100 yards and handguns to 50.

Prior to this past season, I'd always frowned on the idea of using any .22 center fire for deer hunting, figured if ya can't handle a .243, don't hunt. But, I shot one this year with a new M4 in .223 using a handload 62 grain Barnes TSX. It worked. Range was only about 25 yards. I did it because I could and I've had this weapon ever since right before the election when I thought Hillary was going to be elected. Another reason to do it was my then recent cataract surgery. Doc said to avoid heavy recoil for a while. I never thought of the .308 as "heavy" recoil, but I played it safe and went with the .223. I had to bloody the thing, anyway, though. :D I'll probably be back to my .308 next season if not one of my .50 caliber smoke poles.

I've taken a couple with my SKS, 7.62x39. It's deadly as any .30-30. 154 grain bullet at 2200 fps. But, now, it's my pig gun.

Most of the deer I've killed over the years was with my .257 Roberts, or at least half of 'em. Until 1992, it was my only deer rifle. I inherited it from my grandpa. Truth be told, it's the only rifle I've ever needed, but I have this thing about wanting new guns. LOL
 
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