Hi Power vs CZ p-01 for CCW

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Were the sights hard chromed as well? Can you get a couple of photos of that gun? Mahovsky does a great job on guns. They did a Beretta 70S for me a few years ago and, well, take a look:

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This is a gun many people would love to get ahold of. It's flawlessly reliable and was one of two .22LR pistols used by the Israeli intelligence service (the other being a Ruger Mark-series or Standard Auto). I remember years ago seeing a collection of guns the ATF had confiscated from a team of hit men and the primary gun used was a 60s-era Ruger Standard Auto, but needless to say I was thrilled when I found out I could get the Ruger in stainless steel!

The Hi-Power would be beautiful in hard-chrome, too, but the bluing that's on the gun is gorgeous. Take a look at these:

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And here's a closeup:

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As horrible as bluing is as a means of protecting the gun, I just can't bring myself to remove it. What do you say?


I noticed that the bottom one seemed to have some rust in the serrations. Seems a bit reddish.
Leave it blued. With close care and attention it will develope a nice patina over time.

For any suspected corrosion in the serrations I would use a toothbrush and CLP or similar. Flush with some evaporating degreaser, then fill/coat with your choice of protectant.
 
I say buy the Tisas BHP clone. With a tuning job by BH Springs Solutions it is still reasonably priced and should perform very well.

At this time the Tias is still an unproven clone IMHO. They have had some very positive end user results but they have not really been put through their paces. I know of two high end well respected BHP custom shops who are looking into them for custom builds. I had a long conversation with a smith at C&S about them. They rockwell tested the barrel, slide and frame and the numbers were solid.

Frame=23
Slide =35
Barrel=40

The small parts I believe are all cast not MIM. You should be able to fit aftermarket and FN parts with some fitting. The one part which is significantly dimensionally different is the barrel. They will not swap without some milling or aggressive filing. The quality of the barrel in terms of hardness is good but we really do not know its accuracy potential. That said I am sure it is combat accurate.

The sights are not a standard cut. If you want different sights you will have to mill the slide. They are not Novak cuts. The sights themselves are not Novak copies like many people claim. They are more like copies of the 1908's Wilson Combat sights. They are functional but not idea.

Time will tell how good these guns really are. I hope the turn out as good as I think they could be. My hope is that they will be as good or better than the FEG & FM clones of the past.

Leave it blued. With close care and attention it will develope a nice patina over time.

For any suspected corrosion in the serrations I would use a toothbrush and CLP or similar. Flush with some evaporating degreaser, then fill/coat with your choice of protectant.

I also recommend putting a little Renaissance Wax on the gun. It will help the blue shine while also adding a bit of protection for the bluing. S&W shooters have been using this stuff forever.
 
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Confederate...I know about your Beretta Model 70S because I have the exact same gun, also Metalifed by Ron Mahovsky! It also had a problem with rust on the bluing and Beretta reblued it under warranty but it still came back so off it went to Metalife. See what I mean: twin brothers!
Yes, I think we've discussed this here or on other boards. My biggest problem with the Beretta 70S in the past was I couldn't show it to anyone without them wanting to buy it! When I got it back, I had friends who said, "You better take it to the range and make sure it works. If that chrome added to the build-up, it could add to the tolerances of the parts. After trying to explain just how thin the buildup was and yet how durable, I did take it out and try it and it worked with no problems. It did and I've never shot it since. (I collect guns more than I shoot them because I live in a horrible state and it's a pain. So I mostly just collect them. If I shoot a .22LR pistol, I shoot my Ruger 22/45.

Like others, many say, "Wow. I didn't know they made them in stainless steel!" I got a holster with a flap and a spare magazine holder. Paid $7.95
at a surplus store. (New holster, too.) And I got those flat grips like yours which are now difficult to find. But the magazine release on yours appears to be a giant screw while mine's a buttom. How did that happen?

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The gun is one of my favorites and I got it from a friend who moved out of the area. He knew I wanted it, so when he left, he gave it to me. I then had it hard chromed and I'm glad I did. If I did shoot a lot, I'd probably buy a second one. Do you shoot yours a lot?
 

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Wow I hadn't seen tisas! They look pretty nice especially for a base to build up on. I've seen the FEG and FM clones which I've heard nothing but good things. I'll wait a bit before getting a Tisa and see if any flaws come to light, I'm a little bummed the sights aren't Novak cut but at least they look better than the feg sights for a start.
 
Wow I hadn't seen tisas! They look pretty nice especially for a base to build up on. I've seen the FEG and FM clones which I've heard nothing but good things. I'll wait a bit before getting a Tisa and see if any flaws come to light, I'm a little bummed the sights aren't Novak cut but at least they look better than the feg sights for a start.
EGW will cut a blank mounting plate for a red dot to fit it you want that. It isn’t hard to get either sights or the slide custom milled to fit each other.
 
BH Spring Solutions has reviewed the Tisas pistol and proposed an upgrade protocol of spring and pin replacements, etc. total cost for the full upgrade is about $250 I think. Supposedly makes the gun custom level. No a bad total cost for both the gun and the smithing if that is true.
 
BH Spring Solutions has reviewed the Tisas pistol and proposed an upgrade protocol of spring and pin replacements, etc. total cost for the full upgrade is about $250 I think. Supposedly makes the gun custom level. No a bad total cost for both the gun and the smithing if that is true.

Nothing about BH springs $250 upgrade makes a Tias “custom level”. All they do is install their springs and their SFS kit. They might polish so existing parts but that is about it. No one but them uses their spiring. No high smiths use their springs. Their review as basically a way to sell their springs and the SFS which is a solution in search of a problem.
 
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Nothing about BH springs $250 upgrade makes a Tias “custom level”. All they do is install their springs and their SFS kit. They might polish so existing parts but that is about it. No one but them uses their spiring. No high smiths use their springs. Their review as basically a way to sell their springs and the SFS which is a solution in search of a problem.
Except you haven’t handled their modified gun.
 
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My Beretta Model 70S was purchased new in back in 1979 and I had it Metalifed in 1987. Don't know why the mag release buttons are different; maybe some later change at the factory. The the hard chrome plating is over 30 years old yet the gun still looks like new.

After trying to explain just how thin the buildup was and yet how durable, I did take it out and try it and it worked with no problems. It did and I've never shot it since.

This is something I have a hard time wrapping my head around! My Beretta Model 70S is a fun little gun that's been super reliable, decently accurate, and an absolute joy to shoot. Why on Earth would you get something like that hard chrome plated, whereby it's made even more durable, and then proceed not to shoot it all these years? That's unfathomable to me! I have lost count the number of beginners I have started out shooting with my Beretta and can only imagine how many more it will be when the new grandkids are old enough.

If I did shoot a lot, I'd probably buy a second one. Do you shoot yours a lot?

Every trip I make to the range and carry it nearly every time I go hiking through the woods.

Yeah I would say I shoot it a lot!
 
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