627 NOT performance center

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I got the itch for a revolver again, and my lgs has a 627 8-shot with a 4-inch (I think) barrel. It does NOT have the slanted underlug, but more of a traditional barrel shape.

Can anyone tell me about this gun? I can't find much about it, every reference that I follow on Google is for the Performance Center version. Was this version a flop?

They're asking 720 OTD, which seems fair (the gun is used but in great shape).

Am I really missing out by not getting the Performance Center version?

Does anyone have a favorite load for theirs?
It looks like this, but significantly cleaner....
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I have a 627-6 PC 5-inch. My particular PC version has the slip in front sight rather than the pinned in sight in the 627 you include in your OP. It makes changing the front sight easier. My PC versions have a forged hammer and it appears the gun above has a MIM hammer. Some people do not like MIM parts. My PC version used a ball detent in the crane that indexes into a notch in the bottom of the ejector rod shield in the barrel. The 627 pictured above has the more traditional lock that engages the end of the ejector rod. I think those are the major differences. I am sure other people with chime in with the things I missed.

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The PC guns come with a trigger job and a few other refinements the line guns are missing but that doesn't make the none PC guns bad. I have shot several M627 revolvers and I like them a lot.

I'm fairly sure they no longer have the standard M627 in the catalog, only the PC and PC Pro guns. The new guns Retail for just under $1300, Bud's has the PC model for $1040 and a M627 Pro for $824. IMO the M627 Pro is a much better value for only $100 more brand new. You get chamfered charge holes, a crowned target muzzle and a bossed main spring for the extra money.

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/mobile/product/52370/s&w_627_pro_357_mag_4_as_stainless_8_shot
 
I have the 627 Performance Center V-comp

And a 627 Pro series,

both are excellent revolvers.
The Pro has the DX front sight, I easily replaced the front sight with a green FO.
It also now has combat grips.
For $720 I would say that's an excellent price for a 627 Pro, if that's what it is.



 
Personally I would much rather buy a standard production model and pay a good smith to tune it. The "Performance Center" is a joke and always has been.
 
Personally I would much rather buy a standard production model and pay a good smith to tune it. The "Performance Center" is a joke and always has been.

A lot of time the PC versions of models have options not available in the non-PC versions. ie I don't believe the 5-inch slab side barrel in my 627 PC above has ever been available in a non-PC gun though I believe the 4-inch slab side version was offered in a non-PC gun a few years ago. At present all current productions 627/327/R8 models are all Performance Center guns.
 
As mentioned, PC guns are offered in configurations not offered in their standard line-up. I think it’s also true that any tuning and TLC given to current PC guns is modest at best. Get the PC if that’s the base configuration you want/need (e.g. a good USPSA revolver). Otherwise, you can get a standard revolver, spend the balance on some good quality tuning and have a better revolver in the end.

The OP’s revolver looks pretty sweet - it were me, I’d swap out that front sight, give it an action job, then shoot the beejeebers out of it ;) :thumbup:
 
The 5" PC version has a lockup in the barrel yoke, not the end of the extractor shaft like your revolver. The lockup on your revolver IMO provides a smoother faster reload, but I can only assume since S&W updated it, there are benefits in strength or maintaining alignment with the yoke-type lockup
 
The 5" PC version has a lockup in the barrel yoke, not the end of the extractor shaft like your revolver. The lockup on your revolver IMO provides a smoother faster reload, but I can only assume since S&W updated it, there are benefits in strength or maintaining alignment with the yoke-type lockup

And yet more than half of the guys shooting USPSA Revolver division at the National Match are running revolvers with a ball detent on the yoke not the lock at the end of the ejection rod. My 627 pictured at the top of the thread has the ball detent and I can still hit a standing sub 2-second reload with it when I manage to get the meat-ware doing its part. I like the ball detent, far more forgiving to a loose ejection rod (yes I have had a left-handed ejection rod shoot loose during a match) and takes less force on the cylinder latch to unlock the revolver. YMMV
 
Just for giggles I did a quick assessment with my Lyman trigger gauge to measure the force required to pull the cylinder open. Ball Detent S&W 627 PC 3lb 5oz, Ejection Rod 625 PC 12oz. Quite a difference, (maybe the detent will soften up with more use) Regarding competition, I don't think this difference affects results as long as the competitor is training with the firearm used in competition, and your experiences and results with both types support that.

And yet more than half of the guys shooting USPSA Revolver division at the National Match are running revolvers with a ball detent on the yoke not the lock at the end of the ejection rod. My 627 pictured at the top of the thread has the ball detent and I can still hit a standing sub 2-second reload with it when I manage to get the meat-ware doing its part. I like the ball detent, far more forgiving to a loose ejection rod (yes I have had a left-handed ejection rod shoot loose during a match) and takes less force on the cylinder latch to unlock the revolver. YMMV
 
Just for giggles I did a quick assessment with my Lyman trigger gauge to measure the force required to pull the cylinder open. Ball Detent S&W 627 PC 3lb 5oz, Ejection Rod 625 PC 12oz. Quite a difference, (maybe the detent will soften up with more use) Regarding competition, I don't think this difference affects results as long as the competitor is training with the firearm used in competition, and your experiences and results with both types support that.

I am amazed at how stiff your 627 is. I will try to do the same measurements on mine tonight. I have a 627 with the ball detent and a 610 and 625 with the ejector rod locks. Intuitively I would have guess that having no ejector rod lock would have resulted in lower unlocking force but your numbers have me questioning that assumption.
 
I would have guess that having no ejector rod lock would have resulted in lower unlocking force but your numbers have me questioning that assumption.

I assume the measurements were with the cylinder latch in the forward position, and measured the effort to simply pull the disengaged cylinder open. I’m not surprised at the results. That factory detent does a good job of holding the cylinder in, independent of the latch. Opening the cylinder felt a bit stiffer to me.

In contrast, with the more traditional design, there’s almost nothing holding the cylinder in once the latch is pushed forward.
 
I assume the measurements were with the cylinder latch in the forward position, and measured the effort to simply pull the disengaged cylinder open. I’m not surprised at the results. That factory detent does a good job of holding the cylinder in, independent of the latch. Opening the cylinder felt a bit stiffer to me.

In contrast, with the more traditional design, there’s almost nothing holding the cylinder in once the latch is pushed forward.

Ahh... I totally miss read his post and was thinking he was measuring the force to push the cylinder latch button forward, not put the cylinder out of the frame once unlatched. His post makes alot more sense now. Reading comprehension is clearly not my strong suit. :eek::D
 
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