Moon,waxing/waning ..?

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So next week the Kansas rifle season starts and the moon will be on the wane.
Last year, as I recall, we were in the waxing stage and had to deal with a full moon.
Any thoughts on which, if any, is better..?
 
What does waxing moon and waning moon mean? Never heard those terms. I assume one means full moon and one means 1/4 moon or something.

Well a friend of mine believes the moon plays a part and he will not hunt the mornings after a full moon, a few days ago we had a full moon so he didn't hunt well myself and another friend killed deer that morning so I'm not sure it matters. Temp and wind conditions play a bigger part IMO.
 
What does waxing moon and waning moon mean? Never heard those terms. I assume one means full moon and one means 1/4 moon or something.

Well a friend of mine believes the moon plays a part and he will not hunt the mornings after a full moon, a few days ago we had a full moon so he didn't hunt well myself and another friend killed deer that morning so I'm not sure it matters. Temp and wind conditions play a bigger part IMO.

Waxing is the phase when the moon is "growing" to full and waning is the phase when the moon is "shrinking" to the new moon.
 
Kinda like the guy my wife and I saw a the lake while we were getting ready to leave. He told us: If the cows are laying down, the fish aren't biting, if they are feeding the bass will bite. One thing I do know for sure, if you stay home you won't take a deer or catch bass.

He never told us what it meant if some cows were feeding and some were laying down.

Have a blessed day,

Leon
 
Kinda like the guy my wife and I saw a the lake while we were getting ready to leave. He told us: If the cows are laying down, the fish aren't biting, if they are feeding the bass will bite. One thing I do know for sure, if you stay home you won't take a deer or catch bass.

He never told us what it meant if some cows were feeding and some were laying down.

Have a blessed day,

Leon
When I was a kid and Dad would take me to the coast on a fishing trip he'd time it so we got there when the tide was coming in cause" fish bite better on the incoming tide".
We'd get to the pier and some guys would be leaving cause "fish bite better when the tide was going out".
o_O
Based on our experience over the years I just figured the fish bite better when we weren't there... ;)
 
You're really asking about the Solunar theory of animal behavior. Some oysters or some other shellfish were taken from a bay and placed in an aquarium, but continued to open their shells in unison at specific times during each 24 hour period, AND were found to be in sync with the shellfish of their same speicies left back in the bay..., but in the aquarium there was no "tide". After some study it was discovered that they reacted to the movement of the moon. You can find a table and input your zip code to find best times based on lunar tidal influences for both fishing and hunting here : http://www.solunarforecast.com/solunarcalendar.aspx

Now I've seen this work quite well with squirrels, but not nearly as much, with deer, though it does seem to have some effect.

The problem with the "light theory" is what if it's overcast at night? Does that mean hunting during the daylight that follows the blocking of the moon's light will be good hunting? Then explain why some hunters, such as myself have shot deer between noon and 2 p.m. without problems, if the deer are "hold up" in the brush all day because they fed at night? :confused:

The answer is it's more complicated than that. For example if deer become accustomed to something in thier area, they will adapt behaviour, so if there is a lot of farm activity at certain times, and quiet in others, they will adjust. If you install an automated corn feeder to toss corn down on the ground each day at 8 a.m., and there are enough deer and other critters in the area to quickly gobble it up, the deer will learn to be nearby listening for the whirrrr of the feeder dumping corn in the morning. They also get into rhythms during their life. So if they get used to eating in the middle of the night, the varying amount of light doen't effect that as much as folks seem to think.

Another example is cold and damp. Deer can only keep warm in one way..., food. Their stomachs can only hold so much food, and the colder it is, the faster they burn off that food, and need to eat again. ;) Add damp like a rainy drizzle, and their hair does less of a job at insulation, so they have to eat even more. So when folks say they will graze at night in a full moon..., that may be true, BUT you need to check on when does that moon set? The hours of darkness sometimes last longer than the moon is in the sky. So in cold, damp weather they are going to need to eat, and that will include no light hours, and daylight hours, even at or just after,....Noon.

Another factor is changes in their environment. A lot of hunting pressure means noise, and scent. All the scent-bloc in the world doesn't change the fact that boots on the soil kick up the scent of loam, and a lot of that scent in the air is a change, and tells the deer that something is different, and different can = danger to a deer. Couple that with the noise of humans moving about through brush, coughing, working coat zippers, and they can be pushed out of an area or can freeze in place, thus altering their personal pattern. This is why folks that hunt, should hunt all day, especially if you're on public land that has a good amount of hunters...and if it's a weekday. Humans move in before dawn..., up goes the scent level on the wind, and noise, and the deer hold in place. Then at about 11:00 the half-day hunters, and the not as serious day hunters leave, either for work or for lunch. IF you stay put long enough..., the sound of the hunters departing is followed by quiet. Scent is reduced, AND if it's drizzling that rain will help to "scrub" the air of scent and reduces the noise if you move, which means the deer consider moving. Since they've not been out eating, if it's a cold damp day, hunger will be your ally and make them move during those daylight hours. This is why some guys like me have gotten lucky between noon and 14:00....it was cold, it was damp, and the deer had to move. ;)

So look at the solunar tables, and use them as only one component, and couple them with air temp and dampness, plus pay attention to the wind direction, and you should see better results.

LD
 
I’m also finalizing my preparations for Kansas firearms season, nursing a nasty upper respiratory infection, praying it clears before Wednesday.

One thing I have found to be universally true regarding Kansas whitetails and the moon - you can’t kill one from the couch. Hunting always has better odds than not hunting. Go hunt.
 
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True. :thumbup: And I hope you get better by Wednesday.

Now, about 10 years ago, the last day and hour of the extended doe season, I did spot one out back through the kitchen window, nibbling in the kitchen garden. Didn't shoot it from the couch but I did use the dog yard fence rail for a rest... :)
 
Like most things in life, there’s a cumulative effect of all inputs. Some are more prevalent than others. Rut trumps all.

First day at ever deer hunted in my life (fall of 1967) I killed a 214# eleven pointer in the middle of the day, when deer aren’t supposed to be moving. I’ve killed deer in the morning, evening, and every time in between. I can tell you that clear skies, warm, non-rut days are pretty much a non-starter. Clear, full moon nights allow the deer to feed and typically make for poor hunting.

Three things I can tell you that you can pretty much count on. If the birds and other critters aren’t moving, the deer aren’t moving. The deer typically will not move after the first snow of the year. During rut they move anytime day or night.
 
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Don’t discount hunting during a full moon phase.
Yes, the moon does play a part, as well as many other factors. Local weather conditions especially.

However, one thing I’ve seen is that the deer ARE going to move. Just as certain as you won’t sleep all day after a previous nights buffet bender.

I’ve seen that deer move more around mid day after a bright moonlit night.
Instead of hunting food plots, fields; hunt wooded creek crossings and travel lanes between feeding and bedding areas, AND STAY IN YOUR STAND/BLIND. Unless it’s cold/rainy/overcast, they avoid open fields. But, you do kill more if you’re hunting than if you stay home. (But like some, I hunt from my home. Buck in avatar was shot out my kitchen window last Christmas at 8:25am) I was getting a coffee refill and spotted him skinning a cedar tree...).

You will find them bedding in clear cuts/open brush on a southern facing slope on a clear cold day. They don’t like “roughing it” anymore than you or I do.

The key thing as a hunter is: adapt... or starve!
Just like ole “Charley D.” Postulated.
 
My local NE Kansas whitetail almost exclusively feed at night, regardless of moon. 8 of every 10 deer on my camera are at night. The biggest bucks seemed to be active from 3am to an hour before sunrise. I might have 6-10 deer at the feeder all night, and one or two walk through during the day. Feeder goes off at midnight, 4am, noon, and 4pm.

Daylight deer are mostly all does with a few small bucks.
 
This is skewed by location of the camera(s).
The deer have YOU patterned, too. I usually feed mine daily by riding my lawn mower to where I feed them typically near dusk, too keep crows and squirrels from getting too much of the feed. The deer in late August are usually just inside the wood line, waiting for me and are eating before I can get back to the house.

If you were to locate your cameras by an arbitrary grid, and formulate time/location plots, you’d see a much different picture. Likewise two weeks before hunting season compared to week after the season starts, will present a very different picture.
Hunting is just like business; location X3, and timing...

I wouldn’t say that deer follow a set 4-hour feed cycle, but they do follow a pattern, but affected by many variables. Day length (seasonal), moon phase, weather, emerging/changing food sources, human activity, breeding season, ect...

Never saw a deer with an alarm clock, or watch. Not to say it can’t or hasn’t, or won’t happen.... but I have seen them wearing flourescent orange!
Likewise the old and or mature animals don’t get that way by being careless or bold.
 
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