The Banner line, not the blister pack Walmart version I believe ran around a few years ago, were great little scopes. I beat the hell out of several of them over the years, including running on 45-70 leverguns. For the money, you’ll be very hard pressed to find a better optic value than the Banners.
Which Vanguard model you have would determine whether you’re putting a $40 saddle on a $5 horse.
If guys are claiming Banners won’t hold zero, they haven’t used a Banner.
They'll work fine, until they don't. A 300 WM will break even the most expensive scopes. You're Banner may last for years, decades, or weeks. It is a $120-$150 scope and it is a roll of the dice. But one thing I've found is that nothing ever breaks at the range. It always seems to break when you really need for it to work.
You don't have to spend $1000 to get decent optics, but in my experience usable quality starts at about $200 MSRP, if you can find it cheaper then good. The Burris FF-II has earned a reputation for being one of the toughest entry level scopes out there. As tough, if not tougher than Leupold and the scope I'd put on a heavy kicker priced under $400. For only a little more money the odds of getting a tougher scope go up dramatically. And at $200 you will get much better glass than at $150. Especially in low light.
How funny, i hadnt thought about it for a while, but I had a Korean made Trophy on my 7.5lb .300WM.They'll work fine, until they don't. A 300 WM will break even the most expensive scopes. You're Banner may last for years, decades, or weeks. It is a $120-$150 scope and it is a roll of the dice. But one thing I've found is that nothing ever breaks at the range. It always seems to break when you really need for it to work.
You don't have to spend $1000 to get decent optics, but in my experience usable quality starts at about $200 MSRP, if you can find it cheaper then good. The Burris FF-II has earned a reputation for being one of the toughest entry level scopes out there. As tough, if not tougher than Leupold and the scope I'd put on a heavy kicker priced under $400. For only a little more money the odds of getting a tougher scope go up dramatically. And at $200 you will get much better glass than at $150. Especially in low light.
i had a older bushnell and a 80s tasco scope one time or another, on my savage 300 rum. the scopes did fine, it was magnaported but that's only about 15% less recoil. still about the same as the 300 weatherby. i had a simmons whitetail 2 on it, only sope where the tube bent from recoil. i had leupold dovetail bases and standard rings the held up fine, but keeped snaping bases screws. my dad had a tasco target scope on his 338-8mm rem mag to test it, shot a good 200 rounds with it. 3rd on the burris FF-2.
go get a NF NXS
putting a $40 saddle on a $5 horse.
Smart folks do dumb stuff when they can't find the right tools....I expected some of these folks to have a little more on the ball.
MACHV!SHOOTER. i do scratch the inside of the rings with 80 grit and wipe the dust off with those first aid wipe. seems to help keep the scope from moving.