Brand new P365 impressions

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I just picked up a new 365 & have not shot it yet. I can only get 5 rounds into the 10 round mags & 4 in the 12 round (the follower is getting stuck. I'm have pretty strong hands, but not strong enough. I am waiting on my son to see if he can do any better. I know new mags. are usually hard to load until the springs take set, but this is insane.

The trigger is pretty good as are the sights, & the mag. release is all wrong (for me anyway) I have to release it with my weak hand (quicker) or rotate my strong hand around to depress the release fully.

I should not complain as I got the gun from a good friend that works at Sig for 50% off $300. plus $30 shipping, but I just thought I'd share this with you in case you are on the fence.

In all honestly I should have stayed with Glock as their mags. are the best & their mag. releases are more user friendly. The Sig feels good in my hand. Perhaps the mags will break in enough where I can load them or maybe some one can recommend a mag.. loader.
 
+1 on the UpLULA. Those mags are indeed hard to load, and have gotten only a little easier after 300 rounds. You got a heck of a deal, I hope you enjoy using yours as much as I enjoy using mine.
 
Darn it! Pretty soon I won't have any hope at all of being one of the cool kids if I don't have a P365. :(

Congratulations on your purchase. I hope it shoots well for you. :)
 
351 WINCHESTER said:
I just picked up a new 365 & have not shot it yet. I can only get 5 rounds into the 10 round mags & 4 in the 12 round (the follower is getting stuck. I'm have pretty strong hands, but not strong enough. I am waiting on my son to see if he can do any better. I know new mags. are usually hard to load until the springs take set, but this is insane.
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I faced the same problem with Shield 45. I do suspect though that having absurdly strong magazine springs is conductive to reliability, so modern gun designers do it on purpose. I used UpLula to load them. Unlike other loaders it has a metal tongue that drives cartridges into the magazine without tilting them.
 
My oldest son came over & finished loading the 2 ten round mags. I had managed to get 7 rounds in each one. The 12 round mag was easier to load once we got past round 4 which the follower was rubbing on the mag. body. I fully understand the need for stiff springs (I have a little experience with the .351 magazines which probably have the stiffest springs of any magazine I have ever used with the possible exception of these 10 round 365's. I will keep them loaded so they can take set & I will invest in a mag loader.
 
I have had the magazine spring problem too, with different guns. Luckily it's a problem that solves itself over time. :)
 
I've had numerous handguns and my 365 had the strongest springs I've encountered, so much that I bought my first UpLula. Used it twice, then they finally settled in enough I could load without it. The last one is still a little tough.

Great gun though, I thoroughly enjoy it.
 
My 365 had pretty strong springs also, but I didn’t have any problem loading both factory mags to their capacity.
 
Strange, I haven't had any issues with loading the magazine, even on the last round.

Silly question here... but the ammunition in question is factory fodder, right? Early on in reloading when I used to "eyeball" the OAL of a cartridge and on occasion would load a batch out of spec (too long), I found they would bind up in a magazine after 3 or 4 round loaded.

$330 is a steal for a P365. I paid close to $500 for mine. I need friends like that.
 
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Strange, I haven't had any issues with loading the magazine, even on the last round.

Silly question here... but the ammunition in question is factory fodder, right? Early on in reloading when I used to "eyeball" the OAL of a cartridge and on occasion would load a batch out of spec (too long), I found they would bind up in a magazine after 3 or 4 round loaded.

$330 is a steal for a P365. I paid close to $500 for mine. I need friends like that.
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It's factory ammo older Winchester Q load from the 80's. On the 12 round mag the follower was binding/catching on the 4th round on the mag catch hole, but once past that it was easy to load. I would not be surprised if Sig increased the weight on the springs, but that is just a guess. I know this pistol has gone thru numerous upgrades since it's introduction.
 
Olympus said:
My 365 had pretty strong springs also, but I didn’t have any problem loading both factory mags to their capacity.
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I was able to load 7 in both 10 round mags. My son came over & loaded the last 3 for me. He works with his hands every day & he has very strong hands & he had difficulty loading the last 3. I will let them take set & try again. BTW the 12 round mag. was much easier to load once I got past the rough spot on the follower where the mag. catch hole is.
 
I find that I need to use my Uplula in order to load the mags. I did, however, tear the pistol down last night for cleaning, and after reassembly and reloading I was able to put a top off round into the mag by hand.
 
The first couple of rounds are a bit of a PIA to get in, but after that it isn't any tougher than other mags.
 
351 WINCHESTER said:
I just picked up a new 365 & have not shot it yet. I can only get 5 rounds into the 10 round mags & 4 in the 12 round (the follower is getting stuck. I'm have pretty strong hands, but not strong enough. I am waiting on my son to see if he can do any better. I know new mags. are usually hard to load until the springs take set, but this is insane.
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Contact Sig. The mags shouldn't be that hard to load.
 
MistWolf said:
Contact Sig. The mags shouldn't be that hard to load.
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I agree. I've had semi autos for longer than I care to share & never had anything like this. I'm going to let them take set & see if that improves them. I've never needed a mag. loader. I can still load my .351 mags. & up until now they had the stiffest springs of any magazine I have ever tried.
 
It's not the spring, it's the follower catching the notch in the mag body.

To activate the mag release more positively, (assuming you're right handed) hold the pistol so it points to your left. (Turn your body so the muzzle points downrange.) Cup the pistol between the muzzle and grip with your left hand. Place your right thumb on the mag button. While pushing the mag button with your thumb, pull the pistol with your left hand so it pivots into the ball of your thumb. If you loosen the grip of the bottom two fingers of your right hand, the mag will fall free.
 
They are the toughest mags I’ve ever loaded. Strong springs and sharp lips. I upgraded to the 12 rounders and they are also hard to load. I love the pistol though, and it has become my favorite small carry pistol. It shoots soft and is accurate for a small pistol. I can live with the mag loading issue. I may have to get one of those mag loaders for myself.
 
Not surprising since they designed the magazine first and then built a pistol around it. I imagine that the stout spring is required by the single/double stack geometry that allows them to put 10 rounds in a grip that is just a tad larger than my 6 round Kahr PM9.
 
I stopped by my LGS and they just had a new shipment of p365's come in. I held one for the 1st time and I like it. The grip seems kinda small for my hand (and I have small hands) but seems to point naturally for me and I like the sights.

Needless to say I had him put me one back. He let me go through several and feel the triggers and pick mine. I'll pay half this week, half next week and bring it home. Excited to put it through it's paces.

I've ordered a FoxX iwb holster and now I'm looking for the 12rd ext mag. Cheapest I've found in stock is $39.99. If anybody knows of a better price please let me know. It seems everyone who owns one of these has a 12rd mag. Did they include some with purchase or did everyone buy one separate?

Now I wish I would've loaded some rounds in the magazine to see if they were as hard to load as the OP's.
 
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