Silk purse from a sow's ear- Taurus

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JN01

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When I started dating the woman who would become my wife, she got freaked out when she saw me perusing a gun catalog at her house. She had no previous experience with guns and so had a bit of fear out of ignorance. After letting her know that my interest in guns/self-defense, etc was non-negotiable, I was able to educate her and bring her around to a pro-gun stance.

Early on, I took her to the range, but she felt that my guns were kind of heavy.

So, around 1999, I thought a 4" .22 revolver might work well for her, so I picked up a Taurus M94 for her to use. Being a rimfire, I couldn't dryfire it before I bought it, so I wasn't aware of how absolutely horrible the DA trigger pull was- very heavy with a definite wall at the end that caused the muzzle to jerk as the shot broke. But she could cock it for each shot, and the SA pull was decent.

The other issues soon became apparent. After shooting a couple cylinders full, the empty cases became so tight, the ejector rod had to be smacked with a tool to get them out. Additionally, it was spitting so much lead, after firing 30 rounds or so, it was making the cylinder bind up. Even cocking the hammer was more difficult. Scrubbing it off after every couple cylinders helped somewhat, but wasn't really making for a fun shooting session.

Probably should have sent it back to Taurus, but I didn't really feel like dealing with the CS hassle and expense of shipping for a $150 gun. So I stuck it in the gun safe and mostly forgot about it.

Recently I pulled it out of the safe and decided to try and tinker with it to see what the issue was, felt I really didn't have anything to lose.

I put a rod down the bore and found that the chambers all seemed to be indexing properly. Looking at the forcing cone, it was extremely rough. I believed it was acting like a cheese grater on the bullets, causing the leading problem.

I bought a flexible hone, chucked it in an electric hand drill, and ran the tip of the hone in the forcing cone area. Then, by hand, I used progressively fine sandpaper wrapped around a short section of dowel until the forcing cone became very smooth. Then I gave the same treatment to each chamber of the cylinder.

Lastly, I got a bag of drywall anchors and proceeded to dryfire that sucker about 3000 times.

Would I have tried this Bubba gunsmithing on a $1000 Smith and Wesson? Hell, no, but since this was essentially a paper weight, I thought, why not?

The end result? Accuracy? Well, I took it to the range today, I had paper targets at 7 yds, all nine holes from a cylinder full were touching (shot single action). Didn't have a target up at the 25 yard line, but had no problem popping little pieces of clay targets. The DA trigger smoothed out drastically, seems much lighter, still a bit of wall at the end, but not disruptive. The forcing cone no longer leads at all. Empty casings easily eject even after shooting a couple hundred rounds.

So my piece of junk was apparently a kit gun (some assembly required), but now has turned into a decent plinker.
 
I'm glad to hear you were able to get it up and running!

Sounds like a good shooter too! Everybody needs a good 22 of some sort. They're just too much fun
 
Glad to hear you solved the problem. No one likes a gun that is forced to reside in the safe because of issues. Sounds like you have a nice little shooter in your hands now.
 
Good work. I gave up on my Model 94. The DA trigger was beyond dreadful.
 
I introduced my first wife to handguns with a 94 back around 1989, and we both liked it. I don't remember thinking the trigger was "too heavy" or anything like that, but I was a sixgun-toting lawman back then who had never laid eyes, let alone hands, on one of those "new plastic guns". It was her bedside gun when I worked night shifts. I had her keep it when we divorced in 1996.

I have another one now, purchased new in 2014. Again, I didn't notice the trigger being heavy but, with the arrival of a Smith and Wesson 63 late last year, I'm definitely aware of it now. Still, that Taurus is surprisingly accurate (I haven't fired the 63 yet.) Like yours, though, fired cases stick in the chambers, though (unlike yours) they do it from shot one. I'm guessing the chamber diameters are too great, allowing the swelling a case does when fired to essentially "snug" it into place. I'd owned the gun for a few years before I shot it and discovered this, and haven't bothered to try sending it off. I really like the gun otherwise and enjoy having it around for the time being.
 
Like yours, though, fired cases stick in the chambers, though (unlike yours) they do it from shot one. I'm guessing the chamber diameters are too great, allowing the swelling a case does when fired to essentially "snug" it into place. I'd owned the gun for a few years before I shot it and discovered this, and haven't bothered to try sending it off. I really like the gun otherwise and enjoy having it around for the time being.

It's possible the chambers are the correct dimensions, just roughly finished. That wouldn't be too hard for the average hobbyist to remedy at home safely.
 
First revo I dis-assembled was a Taurus. I figured I had little to lose, since it was just a cheap Taurus. Learned a lot.
 
My 94 .22lr isn’t the worlds best revolver, it’s a tad bit rough as well. I’m thinking maybe a bit of TLC like you did will smooth it out a bit.

My 941 .22 mag is a bit smoother, maybe it wasn’t a “Friday” gun like my 94 must be.

Thanks for the ideas to fix the issues. :thumbup:

Stay safe.
 
JN01

So, around 1999, I thought a 4" .22 revolver might work well for her, so I picked up a Taurus M94 for her to use.

Nice job of reworking the Taurus 94!

I thought the same thing for my wife only I had the good fortune to happen on to a S&W Model 34, thanks to an old friend of mine at the LGS. It was mint in the box and had a decent DA/SA trigger pull. Only thing she didn't like about it was the factory grips which I quickly remedied with a Hogue Monogrip. The gun has been great at teaching other new shooters who were otherwise not ready yet in trying a semi-automatic .22.

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Followed this internet advice with my 94s with a good result;
“Finally found the right combo of springs for my Taurus 94 revolvers. wolff 6.5 lb trigger return spring for model 85 and wolff 12 lb hammer spring for model 66 (cut to stock length). This setup gives approx 9 lb double action pull and a beautiful 2.25 lb single action pull, all with positive ignition using cci,agila,federal,remington, and armscor ammo. Thought I would share”
 
I think Taurus revolvers are kind of a hit and miss proposition. I had a Model 83 that would split cases in two of the chambers. One of the smoothest double action .22s I ever shot was a friend-owned 94 snubbie. Had a trigger that would make an old SW proud!! All other 94s I have handled (never owned one) have not had triggers at all close to my friend's gun. It was not modified in any way.
 
Followed this internet advice with my 94s with a good result;
“Finally found the right combo of springs for my Taurus 94 revolvers. wolff 6.5 lb trigger return spring for model 85 and wolff 12 lb hammer spring for model 66 (cut to stock length). This setup gives approx 9 lb double action pull and a beautiful 2.25 lb single action pull, all with positive ignition using cci,agila,federal,remington, and armscor ammo. Thought I would share”

Might have to give that a try. Thanks.
 
I’ve done it on both my 94s- both are blued; I’ve noticed the recoil shield is rougher on one and as the gun gets dirty the trigger pull can get heavier as the backs of the cartridges drags against it. If I make sure to really push the rounds in the cylinder it lessens it a little.
If the 94 was a stainless model I’d take fine sandpaper to it to polish it.
 
Taurus = spotty quality at best and customer service that is just plain poor in my experience. “silk purse out of a sow’s ear”??? I look at it this way: Guns are like buying oats for your horse. If you want nice, clean, fresh oats expect to pay a proportionately higher price. If you would like to buy the oats after the horse has processed them, then buy a Taurus!
 
So you're saying if I spent more than $150 I could have gotten a better quality revolver? Huh, never thought of that. o_O

I know it's not a Korth, but it won't be used for bullseye matches or self-defense. With a little tinkering, it serves its purpose (plinking at the range) OK.

For more serious applications, I have better options than Taurus.
 
So you're saying if I spent more than $150 I could have gotten a better quality revolver? Huh, never thought of that. o_O

I know it's not a Korth, but it won't be used for bullseye matches or self-defense. With a little tinkering, it serves its purpose (plinking at the range) OK.

For more serious applications, I have better options than Taurus.
Spotty quality and poor customer service is what I’m telling you. You see this theme in dozens of posts on this forum. My personal experience is no different. Some of their products function properly. Some of their products only run part of the time and some of their stuff never works. Their customer service is horrible. I have a PT 1911 in stainless steel. They could not have possibly test fired this pistol as the slide was defective. Cost me $100.00 to ship the pistol to them. They replaced the slide free of charge. Too bad they didn’t take the time to fit the slide to the frame...the pistol went back to them a second time. Too bad they didn’t take the time to test fire the pistol. They would have seen that the slide stop wasn’t properly engaging the notch on the slide. I corrected that problem myself. It functions properly today. I intend to sell it while I can still do so with a clear conscience. I don’t think there is a manufacturer anywhere that doesn’t occasionally turn out a product that is defective. Case in point: Smith & Wesson model 4006. LEO trade in. I told Smith & Wesson that I bought the pistol used. These have been out of production for years. The barrel cracked next to one of the lands at the muzzle. No two ways about it...manufacturer’s defect...improperly heat treated barrel or steel that didn’t meet spec. Smith & Wesson responded by sending me a pre-paid shipping label. I had that pistol back in a week with a new barrel...no questions asked and free of charge. Do you see the difference here?
 
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My post wasn't intended to be an ad for how wonderful Taurus is- the description of the problems I had with this revolver should make that apparent. I agree with your assessment of the company, my experiences with Taurus products has been mostly negative. I do have a Rossi lever action that is a good gun, though it benefitted from a bit of work as well. My point was that rather than dropping the gun off the side of a boat, it was possible to salvage it with a little tinkering.
 
My post wasn't intended to be an ad for how wonderful Taurus is- the description of the problems I had with this revolver should make that apparent. I agree with your assessment of the company, my experiences with Taurus products has been mostly negative. I do have a Rossi lever action that is a good gun, though it benefitted from a bit of work as well. My point was that rather than dropping the gun off the side of a boat, it was possible to salvage it with a little tinkering.
Understood
 
Spotty quality and poor customer service is what I’m telling you. You see this theme in dozens of posts on this forum. My personal experience is no different. Some of their products function properly. Some of their products only run part of the time and some of their stuff never works. Their customer service is horrible. I have a PT 1911 in stainless steel. They could not have possibly test fired this pistol as the slide was defective. Cost me $100.00 to ship the pistol to them. They replaced the slide free of charge. Too bad they didn’t take the time to fit the slide to the frame...the pistol went back to them a second time. Too bad they didn’t take the time to test fire the pistol. They would have seen that the slide stop wasn’t properly engaging the notch on the slide. I corrected that problem myself. It functions properly today. I intend to sell it while I can still do so with a clear conscience. I don’t think there is a manufacturer anywhere that doesn’t occasionally turn out a product that is defective. Case in point: Smith & Wesson model 4006. LEO trade in. I told Smith & Wesson that I bought the pistol used. These have been out of production for years. The barrel cracked next to one of the lands at the muzzle. No two ways about it...manufacturer’s defect...improperly heat treated barrel or steel that didn’t meet spec. Smith & Wesson responded by sending me a pre-paid shipping label. I had that pistol back in a week with a new barrel...no questions asked and free of charge. Do you see the difference here?

That's odd I had a very positive CS experience on a 357 revolver that was nearly word for word as you describe. And guess what? It was a Taurus. Great CS.
 
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