NJ Gov. Wants to Raise Firearm Fees 20 Times Present Costs

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I'm thinking that a law obviously crafted to financially discourage a right specifically protected in the Bill of Rights is going to have a tough row to hoe in the Supreme Court, especially these days.

I hope they fight tooth and nail for it the way DICK Daley did for his handgun ban.
 
Not to sound socialist, but this is an sample of the rich keeping their rights since they can afford the high fees and taking away the rights of the "common" man who can't afford it. Who's running this country and trying to disarm us?

Why should the financial elite get all the waterfront property?

The wealthy influential people are trying to diarm the poor. The politicians get elected because they give the poor false hope by promising: affordible healthcare, livable minimum wage, affordible higher education,.... Many fall for that and this is how politicians like these get elected.
 
Wandering off topic to the usual virtue signaling. Can we discuss this law, chances of implementation, chances of a successful court challenge or the like?

BTW, we have no idea about how SCOTUS will act. You only have hopes and dreams.
 
I suppose... if you don't pay any attention to their recent rulings.

Well, you're going to need to pay attention to all the rulings, not just the 2A related ones.

yes, recent SCOTUS rulings have favored 2A individual rights. But, SCOTUS has also ducked some very important challenges, such as those against AWB-like state legislation. Who knows if they would even hear a case challenging fees as unconstitutional?

SCOTUS has also issued a very problematic ruling on Obamacare that may actually play into this discussion. The majority upheld the Obamacare individual mandate by deciding it was a tax, not a regulatory penalty. Congress has broad authority under its taxing power, as do states. If SCOTUS found this kind of gun fee to be a tax rather than a fee - or a penalty - then not only would they find it constitutional - they would effectively institutionalize the practice. And I think we would see another 5-4 decision in this kind of case ... unless the fee or tax was too high.

If such a "sin tax" were so stunningly high as to prevent individuals from enjoying their 2A rights (as withe the Mariana Islands, and potentially NJ), then I think SCOTUS would likely go the other direction and (at a minimum) find such a high tax to be an unconstitutional penalty. But it could signal tha a lower tax is still permissible. but much is too high? Is $200 too high? Well nobody has successfully challenged the $200 NFA tax yet. Would a 50% tax be permissible?

This is a big can of worms.

The poll tax proxy discussion is also problematic. SCOTUS never overturned poll taxes before Congress passed the 24th Amendment in 1964. The 24th Amendment gave SCOTUS the framework to find poll taxes at any level of government to be unconsitutional in 1966. But, before the 24th Amendment, SCOTUS did not find poll taxes to be unconstitutional.

2A says "shall not be infringed". A sales tax has not been found to be an infringment. Various fees and penalties have not been found to be an infringment. Even the $200 NFA tax has so far not been found to be an infringment (although in large part because this is limited to a special class of weapons). How high must a tax or fee be to infringe - to limit - an individual's ability to exercise their 2A rights? An across-the-board $500 fee would very much seem to be an infringment.

So where - between $0 and $1000 - is the line where a tax/fee becomes an infringement? SCOTUS is not likely to decide that specific number or percentage.
 
How is that any different legally than a $200 tax on NFA items? That wasn’t intended to be affordable back in 1934, it was meant to serve as a de facto ban. We have had that for a long time with no real challenges. I know this applies much more broadly in New Jersey, but if the 2nd amendment exists for the reasons people here think it does, it shouldn’t make a difference.

Unfortunately, people get used to almost anything. A generation from now, people will just think it has always been that way and seem normal if there are any gun owners left. Who in New York remembers buying a handgun before the Sullivan act? Needing a handgun permit became normal and accepted, and now they are fighting to keep 10 round magazines just barely with an awb and everything else. You know, slippery slopes.
 
They’re doing this in order to deny the poor minorities from participating in their 2A rights because they’re racists. That’s right, racism is at the heart of this new law. Bunch of dirty liberal racists want to see minorities die because they couldn’t afford to protect themselves. Racists hell-bent on genocide is what drives these people.
 
We just couldn't do it could we. *Sigh*

We.don't.do.politics.

It's pretty simple.
 
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