Hornady, what the heck

Legionnaire said:

A-Tip. Aluminum tip bullets?

https://www.hornady.com/bullets/a-tip-match#!/

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Those are neat, the 6.5s come in 135 gr with a .637 G1, and a 153gr with a .704 G1, .308 250gr with .878 G1..... I feel like I should get partial credit on my guess.

Yes, very cool. Looks like you need a special seater plug ...

BTW,

The silver letters in that original link are part of the ATip logo. In the ATip announcement video, they show similar scenes then the whole logo.

Have you guys seen the price on these
$75 per 100 pcs
Seems like a small group or loaders would be interested in them , but at this price I would not think the general mass of loaders will be very excited

My expectations were low and I can say that I wasn’t disappointed

I'm trying to figure out an application for them. My books don't have load data for projectiles that heavy in .308. The data only goes to 190gr. The new projectiles are heavyweights at 230 and 250gr in 30 caliber.

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What is with the forgiving of twist rate garbage? At that price you need to know what twist rate is needed.

forty_caliber said:

I'm trying to figure out an application for them. My books don't have load data for projectiles that heavy in .308. The data only goes to 190gr. The new projectiles are heavyweights at 230 and 250gr in 30 caliber.

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While I’m sure someone out there will end up doing further experimenting with smaller .30Cal cartridges, I’m betting these are more suited for the big 30Cal magnums. (300WM, 300RUM, etc.)

Hodgdon has data for 220 gr .308 cal.and I think Berger has data for their 230 gr. bullet but that's the highest weights I can find.

For sure, I’ve certainly seen folks use the heavy Bergers in 308. I suppose I struggle to grasp the idea of putting a 250gr bullet into a 308Win. I’m sure it can be done, but I’m not catching the practicality. Perhaps there are methods or needs beyond those that I know.

I’m just thinking if I want to shoot in the 250gr bullet class, that I’m putting a whole lot more umpfh behind it!

I went to Hornady’s load data web page and they have the A-tip load data on these. Looks like the the .30 cal. Version is for the 300 PRC cartridge and the the 6mm and 6.5mm bullets are for the creedmore and PRC cartridges in their respective calibers.

Rbstuartjr said:

I went to Hornady’s load data web page and they have the A-tip load data on these. Looks like the the .30 cal. Version is for the 300 PRC cartridge and the the 6mm and 6.5mm bullets are for the creedmore and PRC cartridges in their respective calibers.

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You are right.

https://www.hornady.com/assets/site/hornady/files/load-data/300-prc-v2.pdf

Nice find, y’all. When talking about some of the benefits of the A-Tip, it certainly seemed catered to a niche crowd. It would appear that based on the 30Cal comments and the 300PRC being one of their focuses, I’d say the ELR guys are the key here.

I almost feel outdated knowing I have a whole bunch of 162gr Amax sitting at home for the 7RMs, but then I realize: A-Max, ELD, or A-Tip - a hole in a deer is still a hole in a deer!

Congrats to the crowd that has been seeking such bullets though!

That 250grain bullet will be money for the 300 prc or 300 Norma crowd and the 6mm and 6.5 offerings will be popular with the prs crowd assuming the bullets are available and perform as marketed

Well, you gotta give Hornady some credit for something. They got 3 pages of exposure on THR. (So far) They say there's no such thing as bad publicity.

Rbstuartjr said:

I went to Hornady’s load data web page and they have the A-tip load data on these. Looks like the the .30 cal. Version is for the 300 PRC cartridge and the the 6mm and 6.5mm bullets are for the creedmore and PRC cartridges in their respective calibers.

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The .308 offerings had 300 PRC written all over them, the 230gr @ 2,850 fps would be a real monster. Same for the 6.5 PRC pushing the 153gr to 3,050 fps, although even the 2,650 fps achievable with the 6.5 CM would be interesting.

I can see serious long range competitors using these, and more power to them, but I'm more of an ELD or RDF on sale kind of shooter.

BTW, looks like the 300 PRC specs an 8 twist barrel, is anyone really making 8 twist .30 cal barrels now?

Nothing new, gentlemen.......nobody remembers the Remington Bronze-Tips made 40 years ago?.....Okay the Aluminum is new....the concept isn't.

You mean these?

I still use them. I was really upset when they discontinued them.
Nothing lasts forever I guess. That's my last box.

Bfh_auto said:

What is with the forgiving of twist rate garbage? At that price you need to know what twist rate is needed.

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And the length also means you need to know if you chamber is compatible

It’s certainly apparent they won’t be magazine fed