Confused about my Desert Eagles model

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https://www.magnumresearch.com/PDF/Distinction_MarkI-XIX.pdf


Is that a Vape that you left in for the picture?

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mr wack said:

View attachment 839418 View attachment 839417 View attachment 839419 Hi guys , my SIL gave me a DE chambered in 44mag but for the life of me I am too dumb to figure out the model, all I think I know is it’s an earlier mod .
Buy looking at it can someone tell me what model it is ?,
Xii or xxxxxx????? .
Is there a link to a serial # lookup site I can possibly get on ?.

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Wow, wish I had a Son-in-Law like that!

Would it not have an indicator in the serial #?

Shot one of those years ago. My only thought at the time (Comparing it to an S&W M29) is this thing shoots soft. It's begging for more horsepower.

I kind of felt the same when I shot my Eagle for the first time.

Then my dies came in the mail and I discovered what a true Fifty A.E. felt like...

Just say no to factory fodder.

Another reference, I think yours is a Mk VII as it doesn't have the cross slots on the rail.

https://www.magnumresearch.com/PDF/Differences_MarkVII-XIX.pdf

The model number is not marked on the DE.
The MK VII's used the safety that is on yours.
The slide release on the 7 is also much wider than a MK I and is grooved for thumb traction.

With the slide off, you can look down into the frame to look for a hole in the front of the trigger group.
That is a sear adjustment screw hole that started with MKVII pistols.
The MK XIX slide has noticeably higher slide serrations on it and is bigger (to accommodate the .50 case) than the the 1's or the 7's.

I've shot and loaded for all calibers of the DE's for quite a while and have always had my best results using a taper crimp die.
The lack of sharp recoil with the .44 allows for a moderate taper crimp with no bullet movement of the rounds in the magazine.

JT

I'll do the obligatory warning about lead in the Desert Eagle, even though I have no personal experiences using a bare lead bullet in said Eagle...

The gas port for the operation of the pistol is right at the point of obturation for the bullet.
My Eagle's first barrel had a very rough bore at this and other spots. I shot it first, as sometimes you just never know. The copper was cut from the bullet so severly it left a copper flare at four o'clock on the muzzle and a pretty patina of Orange around the piston. (Which was replaced in seven days by Magnum Research. Very cordial on the phone and great service.)

The point being that when a lead bullet is fired it is in the process of expanding as it passes the gas port. This shaves lead and deposits it in the tune. The next round melts it and packs it in the necessary u-turn, stopping the gas and fun.
It is said that an unwitting human may then fire many more round single fire, thoroughly filling the tube, rendering it a paper weight.

But, again, not personal experience. I just follow the directions, my life is simple.
That is only the way I have it reasoned out in my head, based on my barrel experience. Were it flame cutting and lead vapor a gas check would work, wouldn't it?

However, I have been wondering about coated bullets in the Eagle.
This barrel's gas port resides in a groove instead of a land. I wonder if it were polished by over a thousand Berry's plated and eighty overpriced factory rounds, if the coated bullets would work?
I like some of the brick wall meplats on some of those cast bullets...

Also,


While mine didn't look quite like the one pictured, my vape did help me quit smoking nine years ago...


(Sweetie Pie) will be ten in November.
Holy crap! Already!

You have what looks like a MK-VII. Safety and slide release are different on the MK-I. Your barre is not slotted like on a MK-XIX.

Also, see https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/the...mark-i-mark-vii-and-mark-xix-t1367.html#p1024

mr wack said:

I haven’t bought factory ammo for years so I’m really looking forward to mixing me up some nice and spicy 44mag ammo .

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You will want to use a slow-burning magnum powder. Fast and medium powders don’t generate enough gas to cycle the slide. You may have a little more leeway, as the MK-VII has a lighter slide than the newer models.

I have had good results using AA#9, and have gotten highest velocities with Lil Gun.

H110 is another favorite, and seems to produce the best fireballs.

Another vote to not shoot lead in it as mentioned above. Pretty sure that is direct from IMI and not urban legend.

Mine has run fine on std 240gr SP factory loads. May need some lube on it and a firm grip. Not opposed to loading for it though.

IIRC they are sighted in for 100m or maybe 50m so keep that in mind when you go to shoot it the first time.

Great pistol!

Ohen Cepel said:

Mine has run fine on std 240gr SP factory loads.

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Regarding factory ammo, both Winchester and Federal 240 gr. JSP have worked well for me. I haven’t tried anything lighter.

Ohen Cepel said:

IIRC they are sighted in for 100m or maybe 50m so keep that in mind when you go to shoot it the first time.

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That one actually is an urban legend, which I have found to be incorrect. I suspect it stems from MRI using the same front sight for all calibers. (They have recently started using a taller front sight for their .429DE barrels).

My .357 and .44 barrels shoot close enough to point of aim at 25 yds. However, the .50 barrel would hit a foot high at that distance. I’ve heard the “sighted at 100 yards” thing often enough, and it’s almost believable... almost. It seems to me, even a pistol cartridge would likely still be rising at that distance, not dropping off.

So I tried it out, more to satisfy my own curiosity than anything. I shot from sandbags at 25 yards and hit around 12” high, as noted. Then I shot at a 24”x34” paper from there bench at 100 yards.

The sights are heavy “combat” sights, and not that great for precision at distance. The front blade was wider than my target that far away. So I did my best to center the sights at the very bottom edge of the paper and fired 5 shots. All hits were at the top or slightly over the target, centering almost three feet high.

For comparison, I sighted my (scoped) .44 barrel at 25 yds, and fired at the same 100 yd. target, but aiming for the orange spot in the middle. That one was only a couple inches high at that distance.

I recently installed a taller fiber optic sight from Dawson, and all is well. I haven’t tried shooting at 100 yds with it, but it hits where I want it to at 25 and 50.

If you find something interesting about how your Eagle flies let us know.




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