New Pedersoli Colt Revolvers?

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Someone in Europe posted on Facebook that Pedersoli is now making Colt revolvers.
He provided a link to a vendor in France.
He has a Pietta 1851 for comparison, and after firing one he said that the Pedersoli 1851 felt better.
But the guns are not listed on the Pedersoli company website.
Perhaps they are only test marketing or only have very limited distribution.--->>> https://www.armurerie-lavaux.com/Ar...KT1Ud7Ik5yY_w6NvhGKWKRQhtPvk91Ze6pG0K1BE1L7n4

The French website shows an 1860 .44, an 1851 .36 and an 1861 .36 along with the Remington .44 that we already see here in the US.
All 3 Colts shown have checkered walnut grips.
 
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Very nice but did you look at the price? 408 Euros is about $456!

I don't care how well built or nicely finished it is; that's a little pricey for my budget!
 
I saved this pic that someone posted on a BR forum somewhere a couple of months ago, but I believe it was this French site:

http://repliquesoldwest.superforum.fr/forum

Visual comparison between a Pietta 1860 Army and the Pedersoli 1860 Army:

1860-Army-Pietta-Pedersoli.jpg

I don't care for the checkered grip, but anyone can see that the wood-to-metal fit and the bluing, as well as the case colors, of the Pedersoli is far better than the Pietta.

I am sure the price tag is commensurate as Bannockburn pointed out.

Jim
 
It was that French site! You might need a Google Translator or similar:

http://repliquesoldwest.superforum.fr/t10812-colt-1860-army-pedersoli

Note: The French use very different terminology for revolvers: the frame is a "carcass"; blueing is "tanning"; the cylinder is a "barrel"; a hammer is a "dog", etc. If you go there you need to allot quite a bit of time to get used to that.

Jim
 
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skeeterfogger said:
Too pricey for bp gun period. Go with Pietta rem 1858 target.
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Some folks would disagree (not me!). Have you checked what a LNIB Colt 2nd Gen/3rd Gen/Signature gun sells for? If you have not been there, GB will be an eye-opener.

Too rich for my blood. Besides, I am not a bit interested in replica Remington 1863 New Model Army revolvers.

Jim
 
I think the Pedersoli Model 1860 and Model 1861 were even more expensive than the Model 1851. While it may not be as nicely finished as the Pedersoli versions, my Pietta Model 1860 is still a very decent buy for the money (plus it has a really nice smooth action and trigger)!

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bannockburn said:
While it may not be as nicely finished as the Pedersoli versions, my Pietta Model 1860 is still a very decent buy for the money (plus it has a really nice smooth action and trigger)!
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Bannockburn, that is very nice! The wood-to-metal fit is great, especially at the frame (unlike my Pietta 1851 Navies), and the bluing is very good. What is the date code?

It puts my ASM to shame. The wood fit at the frame is not the best.

All you need now is a full-fluted cylinder (as a spare, if you will). ;)

ASM-1860-Army-Fluted-Cylinder-007.jpg

Good show, sir!

Regards,

Jim
 
Jim

The date code for my Model 1860 is CN which I think is 2017. I know that's the year my wife got it for me for Christmas so I'm thinking it's right.
 
Spend your money if that's what you want to do. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with these Pietta 1858 target. One off the shelf almost 20 years ago and one built from parts in the last 6 months. Both very accurate.
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Jim

The date code for my Model 1860 is CN which I think is 2017. I know that's the year my wife got it for me for Christmas so I'm thinking it's right.
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[CN] is 2015 when Pietta started to do due diligence with what we folks had to say insofar as the 1851 Navy grip style. I have no idea of possible changes on their 1860 Army.

Jim
 
skeeterfogger said:
Spend your money if that's what you want to do. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with these Pietta 1858 target. One off the shelf almost 20 years ago and one built from parts in the last 6 months. Both very accurate.
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I have no doubt that they work as well as you like. My point was that the oxymoron 1858 Remington tag on these guns is not at all historically accurate. Back in the 1960's the misnomer was set in gold because of the patent date of 1858 was on these replica guns, and that is what they are wrongly referred to in the modern day, and there really is no going back with the replicas.

Jim
 
skeeterfogger said:
Spend your money if that's what you want to do. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with these Pietta 1858 target.
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You're right, there's not a thing wrong with them.
I have 3 Ruger single action revolvers and there's not a thing wrong with them. That doesn't mean that a BFR isn't better made. And there's not a thing wrong with a BFR, but that doesn't mean a Freedom Arms isn't just a little bit better. This is always true. Only you can decide what option makes more sense for you and your budget. To some, the nicer fit an finish is worth the extra coin. To some, it's not.
 
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I saved this pic that someone posted on a BR forum somewhere a couple of months ago, but I believe it was this French site:

http://repliquesoldwest.superforum.fr/forum

Visual comparison between a Pietta 1860 Army and the Pedersoli 1860 Army:

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I don't care for the checkered grip, but anyone can see that the wood-to-metal fit and the bluing, as well as the case colors, of the Pedersoli is far better than the Pietta.

I am sure the price tag is commensurate as Bannockburn pointed out.

Jim
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I’d like to try the checkered grip before I spent the coin... I expect the Pedersoli to be the highest quality new open top to be had.
I’m sure as well that, if and when it lands on our shores, the price will be commensurate.
 
Looks like theyre paying more attention to detail...look at this pic of the 1861...has a nicely crowned barrel tip. Id really love to get my hands on one. I wonder if the cylinders are at or over groove diameter. That would be amazing.
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When Pedersoli bought out Euroarms around 2011, most folks thought that Pedersoli would eventually start producing Euroarms revolvers.
Most people expected them to start off by making the Rodgers & Spencer but that still hasn't happened yet.
It seems that Pedersoli would rather compete for the Colt market than to make the R&S and have that market all to themselves.
Some customers have been waiting years for them to begin producing an R&S, while all they offer for sale in the USA is a Remington that most either don't want or can't afford.


In 2011, someone posted:
" Euroarms Italy has been bought out by Pedersoli and as such will cease to exist taking Euroarms America with them.
Some, maybe all, of the firearms formerly made by Euroarms will in future be made by Pedersoli.
Pedersoli claims to be evaluating the products they have acquired in the buy out and will make "improvements" to the products - whatever that means.
Price increases are almost certain and there will be a manufacturing lag." --->>> https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/par...roarms-america-closing-it-s-doors-t39770.html
 
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Thats an ancient Pietta.. You above all people should know they dont look like that any longer.
I dont doubt for one second that the Pedersolis wont be better then Pietta.. OR Uberti.. They are pretty much better then anything out there today... But thats a slanted photo and we both know it.

And yeah.. Its got the Pedersoli name... But its still a Euroarms and we all know that too... So for the same price as a brand new Glock? Blah... Ill buy a couple used 1911's... Shrugs...
 
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When Pedersoli bought out Euroarms around 2011, most folks thought that Pedersoli would eventually start producing Euroarms revolvers.
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I have a Euroarms Remington. It's stamped on the top of the barrel "Armi San Paolo" and has the date code "AS" (1987). (Euroarms was a marketing consortium.) The quality is very comparable to my Uberti Remington, although the Euroarms is slightly lighter built (it has a slightly thinner top strap, for example).

I also have a Euroarms M1861 musket. (It's more authentic than the Armi Sport (Chiappa) version, but not as good as the Japanese Miroku.) A few years ago, I picked up a Pedersoli M1861. The Pedersoli is identical to the Euroarms, but the quality control is not as good. (For example, the upper band is not well fitted to the stock, so that it slides back and forth.)

What I'm trying to say is that just because something has the Pedersoli name, that is no guarantee of superior quality. I think that's particularly true when the tooling was inherited from somebody else. I would not pay extra for the name without really inspecting the gun in detail.
 
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