Reason For A Duplicate

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Trunk Monkey said:
If something happened tomorrow where both of my Glocks we're out of commission
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Blasphemy..... anything that killed not one but 2 Glocks will also destroy all humans, cockroaches, small block chevies, and bacteria.

In all seriousness though I had a mag catch (or possibly the spring I replaced both and problem went away) fail in one and a RSA break in another in the same day. Switched the RSA from the broken one and finished the day. Then fixed both later.

Guns rarely wear out. They most certainly do wear out small parts if you use them. I have spare parts for Glock, Sig, HK etc.
 
jar said:
Nope. But if it's at the end of my parking lot then there is plenty of time to first call in the Calvary.
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I have always been an advocate of sticking to one platform. And I have always carried either DA/SA or striker fired guns.

So to be honest I've never had to deal with remembering which gun I was carrying and what the manual of arms was under stress.

BUT I have had a couple of brain farts in training that could have been disastrous if they happened in the real world.

That's been enough to convince me that I'm better off sticking to the same operating system on all the guns that I carry.

YMM (and very likely does) V
 
I'll always have two LW Commanders in the house. I recently had one go down and had the backup till I could get the preferred one fixed.

I also have a Sig P365. I don't have a backup for that. It's the backup to my backup.
 
Trunk Monkey said:
I have always been an advocate of sticking to one platform. And I have always carried either DA/SA or striker fired guns.

So to be honest I've never had to deal with remembering which gun I was carrying and what the manual of arms was under stress.

BUT I have had a couple of brain farts in training that could have been disastrous if they happened in the real world.

That's been enough to convince me that I'm better off sticking to the same operating system on all the guns that I carry.

YMM (and very likely does) V
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You are in law enforcement, correct?

Consistency between guns has been a concern to me. I started carrying a revolver, then made the switch to a striker gun several years ago. Now I've introduced a 1911 style gun as my primary carry. I'm worried I'm flirting with a draw and fire bobble that could lead to a bad situation of one type or another.

I have no kids so sitting on my couch at night and dry fire and handling practice can happen a lot. Whenever I get a new gun I find doing so, besides being good trigger control practice, helps me become familiar with the gun very quickly. I find I tend to automatically go to swipe a safety now on any semiauto I carry, regardless of type. However I've only ever had to draw a gun out in public once. It was fine, but it was years ago, and I had less variety in my gun lineup at that point. Actual fear of death can really cloud the mind and body, and I wonder if my practice and familiarity will mean a darn thing if I ever need to draw again.

I'm considering trading in my XDs 45 for a second Sig P938 as a preventative measure.
 
Having back-ups is a good idea.

One of the few guns that you could probably get away without having a back-up, is a Glock. While they are pretty durable, the bigger reasons are they are so common, you could probably find a replacement in less than 30 minutes (unless you live in a state that has a wait period), and if you needed to replace broken parts, those are also readily available, and you can probably do the replacement yourself.
 
jstert said:
one is none, two is one, three is two
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More easily (and often) expressed, I think, as "Two is One & One is None".

A couple of years ago I used that phrase to explain to my sister why I felt I needed more than one of a number of different, potentially critical, things. She quickly embraced the philosophy and became a True Believer ... and has actually used that as her explanation to me in a couple of situations. Ayup, she Gets It. :)
 
I have 3 CC guns with 2 being interchangeable in a pinch.

If my shake out period of the Shield9 provides satisfactory results I’ll buy a second as it’s my EDC.
 
I don’t want to carry reloads for self-defense, so ammo availability is something I think about. I have duplicate copies of my carry guns, but one is 9mm and the other is 40. This doubles my chances of being able to find ammo in a banic situation. Good luck finding good defensive ammo in 9mm if one of the crazies wins the 2020 Presidential election.

I used to have an exact duplicate of my Kahr P9 that I used for practice but I traded it off. Now my P9 is malfunctioning and I’m having to switch to my 40. I wish I had kept the other one now.
 
I dont have two exact duplicates of anything, but I do have one that's "near enough" that it will serve.

For example, I have 3 "close enough" options for my carry 1911. A VBob, a regular commander and a CCO. All fit in the same holster/mag pouches, share mags, conceal roughly the same, etc. I suppose my BHP could serve in a pinch as well.
 
Good Ol' Boy said:
My wife's EDC PPS M2 is still with Walther for the recall. She just switched jobs a week ago and mentioned something today about if I had anything she could carry while she's waiting for her gun to come back. Apparently she's not of the mind that the location of her new job is in an exceptionally safe area.

I dont have anything except my EDC (G26) and fullsize pistols, which aren't really conducive to purse carry.

All that to say, I've always rolled my eyes when I've heard folks say they have more than one of the same carry piece. Not anymore. We're going this weekend to look for a duplicate or very similar of her gun for her, and starting now I'm on the lookout for a backup G26 to my EDC G26.


Just food for thought....
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I had my PPS M2 in for the recall the turn around was a week. If your still interested in a matched backup for the wife, Palmetto has PPS M2's for $269.99 currently, but better act fast with the or they will be OOS. https://palmettostatearmory.com/walther-pps-m2-9mm-pistol-black-2805961.html
 
Elkins45 said:
I don’t want to carry reloads for self-defense, so ammo availability is something I think about.
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What about magazine malfunctions? Is that something you think about?

Elkins45 said:
I have duplicate copies of my carry guns, but one is 9mm and the other is 40. This doubles my chances of being able to find ammo in a banic situation. Good luck finding good defensive ammo in 9mm if one of the crazies wins the 2020 Presidential election.
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Knowing that this is an issue and knowing that ammunition is readily available and relatively cheap now and knowing that it's a durable good it would seem that now would be the time to be stocking up rather than wait for the next ammo panic
 
Trunk Monkey said:
What about magazine malfunctions? Is that something you think about?



Knowing that this is an issue and knowing that ammunition is readily available and relatively cheap now and knowing that it's a durable good it would seem that now would be the time to be stocking up rather than wait for the next ammo panic
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I’m sorry, I wasn’t clear. What I meant was that I don’t carry reloaded ammunition, not that I don’t carry a second magazine.

I am stocking up on ammunition now, but if you shoot very much you will eventually need to replenish the stock pile.
 
I think duplicates are a fine strategy, but put me in the diversity camp. I probably have a dozen concealable handguns but no exact duplicates. Closest to that would be the two 3-inch GP100s, but one is a .357 and the other is a .44 Special. Point is, if one of my carry guns goes down, I have others to fill the need while I troubleshoot the first one.
 
Good luck finding good defensive ammo in 9mm if one of the crazies wins the 2020 Presidential election.
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Good luck finding good defensive ammo in ANY CARTRIDGE if one of the crazies wins the 2020 Presidential election.

There, fixed it for ya!:thumbup:
 
BSA1 said:
I have become a big believer in “3 is 2, 2 is 1 and 1 is None.”

Having a duplicate is a good idea if you are ever in self-defense situation. The Police are going to take your gun for evidence and as part of the investigation. I can go home, go to the vault, pull out the spare, load it and stick in my holster that I still have on and am g-t-g. No rethinking about what gun I am carrying.

I will add that my guns are not exact duplicates. They vary some in what sights they may have or have different stocks but they are all the same model and operate the same way.

My biggest problem is the expense. Thanks to a large part to Barry and Eric about 3 years ago I re-evaluated my diverse assortment of firearms and ammunition and was surprised how much I came up short. So I am making it a priority to acquire duplicates. As I am including arming other family members this means more guns than other folks feel are unnecessary for their situations.

The only real downside is I don’t have money for buying other types and models of guns at the moment. Future gun purchases are made with the “3 is 2, 2 is 1” plan. This is one of the reasons why I am excited about the Ruger Wrangler. Two exact duplicates for less than $400.00 really helps the budget.
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For my SHTF/CCW/HD guns I have basically standardized on 9mm/.223 and layaway a plentiful quantity of interchangeable magazines and ammo- but on my fun guns, I never really get exact duplicates. But hey, everybodys GOTTA have 2," 2.5," 3," and 4" K-frames, right?:)
 
Two major (non-exclusive) justifications for having duplicates:
- Primary has function problems (for whatever reason incl recall, etc).
- Primary has been seized as evidence as a result of a critical incident which didn't result in incarceration of the owner.

Police departments have a pool of float units for both of the above reasons.
 
Elkins45 said:
I don’t want to carry reloads for self-defense, so ammo availability is something I think about. I have duplicate copies of my carry guns, but one is 9mm and the other is 40. This doubles my chances of being able to find ammo in a banic situation. Good luck finding good defensive ammo in 9mm if one of the crazies wins the 2020 Presidential election.
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I am using this argument to justify owning guns of different cartridges however the pairs use the same caliber. For example I have a pair of Single-Sixes in 32 Magnum, Vaqueros in 45 Colt, Beretta 92FS in 9mm, the 1911's are 45 ACP and so forth.

Actually I don't know if it really is that much of a "advantage" in a panic or crisis. About the only ammunition that was on store shelves when Barry was the Prez were shotgun shells.
 
I have duplicates of all our carry guns, I see the merit of having only one carry gun, but sometimes dress requirements require sub-optimal choices, the worst of which is still a lot better than violating the first rule of the gun fight -- Have A Gun!

Basically one to carry, one to practice with.
 
Good points on both sides. I have a few Shields and a few Glock 19’s. Nice thing is sharing holsters and magazines.

I have some other Glock 9MM and .40’s that share holsters and internal parts with the other Glocks to some degree.

Then I have my “1 of’s” that are fewer and farther between. A Sig here, a Springfield there, couple Rugers, etc.

I seem to buy one Glock for every “other kind of” gun I buy, sometimes two. I like the interoperability factor. No different than those of you who have a safe full of 1911’s.

Same goes for shotguns and rifles. AR’s and CZ semis are my preferred flavors.

Variety is nice, but I’m trending towards being a minimalist...and while I’m not really looking to downsize my firearms in number, there is efficiency and economy consolidating on interchangeable platforms for me.

YMMV
 
George P said:
Good luck finding good defensive ammo in ANY CARTRIDGE if one of the crazies wins the 2020 Presidential election.

There, fixed it for ya!:thumbup:
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Even during the worst depths of the post Sandy Hook period you could always find 357 Sig and 10mm.
 
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