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J-Bar posted in another thread about buying a Ruger single action .357, posted a picture of it and there was this little Chinese gun lock in the case with the gun. Well, we lock all of our handguns with those cheesy little locks just so someone can't pop a loaded mag into a gun and start shooting.
Anyway, the little locks all have a sticker on them that says "CHINA". I didn't bother peeling all the stickers off. So one day this person came in, looked at our display and said "Why are all of your guns made in China?"

Took all I had to not say something I'd regret.
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One of my biggest aggravations at work is when coworkers or my employees come to me with a question, and it’s blatantly obvious they spent exactly zero time trying to find the answer or think the issue out before bothering me with the question. Often 30 seconds of thought would’ve lead to an answer without eating up my time.

To me it shows laziness or stupidity. Or both.

This seems another example of the same issue.
 
One of my biggest aggravations at work is when coworkers or my employees come to me with a question, and it’s blatantly obvious they spent exactly zero time trying to find the answer or think the issue out before bothering me with the question. Often 30 seconds of thought would’ve lead to an answer without eating up my time.
To me it shows laziness or stupidity. Or both.
This seems another example of the same issue.

Indeed Sir! I feel your pain.
Is it impolite to look at them and inquire about just who it is that ties their shoes for them?
 
I feel your pain.

I am a public schoolteacher. I teach 6th, 7th, and 8th graders. I have done this for 26 years now.

I love my job and I love my students. However, there ARE such things as stupid questions, and I hear them EVERY day.

My favorite, after Christmas Break: "Did you grow a beard?"

Another: "Did you know that you're tall?"
 
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When I worked in a gun store, the following conversation happened numerous times (bear in mind that I don't live in the US):

Client: Can I see those Remington shells over there - Nr.4, right?
Me: Sure! (Hangs him a box of some Remington Turkey Loads that he pointed)
Client: No, no, no - I want the real deal, I want an American made Remington! Don't want no Turkish knockoffs!
Me: You are holding it.
Client: But it says right on the box that those are made in Turkey!
Me: It says that they are meant for hunting turkeys, not that they are made in Turkey...
Client: Who the hell are you kidding with - you think I'm blind?!?
Me:......!!! Whatever...
 
When I worked in a gun store, the following conversation happened numerous times (bear in mind that I don't live in the US):

Client: Can I see those Remington shells over there - Nr.4, right?
Me: Sure! (Hangs him a box of some Remington Turkey Loads that he pointed)
Client: No, no, no - I want the real deal, I want an American made Remington! Don't want no Turkish knockoffs!
Me: You are holding it.
Client: But it says right on the box that those are made in Turkey!
Me: It says that they are meant for hunting turkeys, not that they are made in Turkey...
Client: Who the hell are you kidding with - you think I'm blind?!?
Me:......!!! Whatever...
It is so hard, sometimes, to curb that tongue in my head.
There are some people who have no business owning a firearm, much less going out in the woods and hunting with one.
There is no class or school that can teach people how to think. As much as I am for Every legal citizen having the right to own a firearm, I sometimes think there are those who just shouldn't. To reference a Ron White bit, They have the right to own a gun but do they truly have the ability?
 
I feel your pain.

I am a public schoolteacher. I teach 6th, 7th, and 8th graders. I have done this for 26 years now.

I love my job and I love my students. However, there ARE such things as stupid questions, and I hear them EVERY day.

My favorite, after Christmas Break: "Did you grow a beard?"

Another: "Did you know that you're tall?"

Hear, hear!!! High School juniors and seniors for 25 years now......LOTS of stupid questions. I do lots of nodding and smiling.
 
I have never used a lock that came with a gun. However, instead of throwing them away, I am now accumulating a collection of the locks themselves. The manufacturers' logos are cool, even though the locks may be made in China. I have even filled in gaps in the collection by going to ebay. They are typically available for a pittance, because nobody seems to want them. This is one area of gun collecting that is still affordable.
 
One of my biggest aggravations at work is when coworkers or my employees come to me with a question, and it’s blatantly obvious they spent exactly zero time trying to find the answer or think the issue out before bothering me with the question. Often 30 seconds of thought would’ve lead to an answer without eating up my time.

To me it shows laziness or stupidity. Or both.

This seems another example of the same issue.

Ya want to see this in spades?

Join some Farcebook groups about reloading or guns.
 
Ya want to see this in spades?

Join some Farcebook groups about reloading or guns.
I pretty much refuse to join any gun group on FB. It’s the central hub for worldwide ignorance on all issues, and the gun groups are so full of chest thumping numb nut bozos I want to cry.
 
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There may not be any stupid questions, but there sure are some inquisitive idiots.

The flip side of the OP is that, as retailers necessarily cater to the lowest common denominator, knowledgable shoppers are often treated like idiots by salesmen - who sometimes are themselves not as informed as one might hope. Sometimes the smart shopper can make use of this - but often I find it easier to deal with a salesman who I know knows his stuff, and who knows I know my stuff too.

I really don't miss working retail.
 
One of my biggest aggravations at work is when coworkers or my employees come to me with a question, and it’s blatantly obvious they spent exactly zero time trying to find the answer or think the issue out before bothering me with the question. Often 30 seconds of thought would’ve lead to an answer without eating up my time.

To me it shows laziness or stupidity. Or both.

This seems another example of the same issue.

There are some people that will figure out an answer but will still ask the question to confirm their reasoning was correct.

I've had too many coworkss that come up with the absolutely wrong answer, and then happily go about creating a disaster
 
There are some people that will figure out an answer but will still ask the question to confirm their reasoning was correct.

Yep, and I don’t have a problem with folks like that at all. In fact I tend to be that type. I think through an issue and do my own research, run my conclusion by my boss as briefly as possible to make sure I haven’t missed anything, then proceed. Those types of conversations take all of two minutes, as opposed to the twenty minute conversations I have to have with some of my employees who don’t bother to spend any time thinking things through at all. The ones that don’t think, well you have to start at the beginning with them so they understand why something is the way it is. And these are professionals in a science based industry, not 16 year old fast food workers.

I try to do the same before asking a question here on THR also, but so much of what we discuss is subjective, and I look back on some of my early threads and questions now and then, and just shake my head.

About a month ago I had an employee ask me how he should go about doing a small project. I started explaining and then realized he had done the last three projects of the exact same type. I said

“Wait a minute, didn’t you do the last one like this?”

“Oh, yeah.

“Go look at your own work!” I think he felt foolish, and he should.

I’m guessing this is the same type of person the OP interacted with.

I've had too many coworkss that come up with the absolutely wrong answer, and then happily go about creating a disaster
Me too. Lots of bosses who do the same thing. They don’t ask their staff and the decisions are garbage.

Well thought out and pointed questions are fine. Informed decisions are great.

Lazy thinkers with poor logic skills make more work for everyone else and collectively cost society billions. I work late 5 days a week in order to clean up lazy thinker's mistakes, while they go home at the end of their 8 hour day. At least I get compensated for it though.

Mistakes are fine too, so long as we learn from them. A substantial amount of what I’ve learned over the years comes from trial and error.
 
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There are some people that will figure out an answer but will still ask the question to confirm their reasoning was correct.

These folks naturally focus on process, not product. Developing a logical discernment process versus a discrete information product. If they ask for an answer, they get an answer. If they ask for confirmation or correction of a process which developed an answer, they better refine a tool which can produce infinite answers.

Sort of like the old yarn - give a man a fish, but from the opposite angle: if they ask for a fish, they get a fish. If they ask to learn how to fish, they get fish for the rest of their life.
 
Agreed - Facebook long range shooting and reloading central groups will never disappoint to produce cringe-worthy stupid questions.
Doesn't even have to be a shooting group. I follow a lot of humor, car, pet, etc. groups and in one someone posted a meme with an AR with the concept that they should be banned. I posted some factual responses and even commented that I carry a big .44 Magnum revolver, which although big and scary, fits no one's definition of an assault weapon. A few just did the hit and run with things like "You want to kill people" and comments about my manhood. I replied that 1, I don't want to kill anyone, hence the scarecrow effect of that big revolver on my hip to the stupid orcs who might want to try to rob us and 2, I carry it on my hip because it won't fit in my bra. Not one person wanted to actually engage in intelligent discussion. No wonder our country is so divided.
 
For someone who doesn't work in a gun store, I have heard enough gun stupid stories just overhearing. Being in and out of gun stores, even before I was old enough to buy, have heard some golden ones.

For example, before Ruger, Sig and a few others started making firearms with all sorts of colors, I saw one customer claim all guns were made by the same company because most guns were black. I heard a gun store clerk (try) telling a customer that Glocks spend 2 years submerged in salt water before they were sold. Another customer got fooled by the Glock 1911 that happens right around the 1st of April it seems, get into an argument with several gun store employees wanting to see it and buy it.
 
Anyway, the little locks all have a sticker on them that says "CHINA". I didn't bother peeling all the stickers off. So one day this person came in, looked at our display and said "Why are all of your guns made in China?"

I would be very tempted to say “Well, gun manufacturers are getting sued right out of the country. That’s why everyone should join (pick your favorite pro gun organization) to fight this...here’s an application.”
 
It's not always the customer that's dumb. I was in a gun shop recently and noticed that they had several 22-250s mixed in their 22 LR assortment. When I asked about it the kid behind the counter told me it was because they are 22s. I guess technically he was right.
 
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