25% Off of Winchester primers

I saw this! Having checked ammoseek.com, it looks like you can get 1,000 primers for slightly over $20 (plus hazmat and shipping, of course).

That seems to be a heck of a deal!

Powder Valley's doing a half-hazmat sale that's pretty competitive.

Stack the shipping and the rebate!

I was just on their site and they do not explain qualifying purchases. Is this all primers from any vendor or is it just their new Match Primers?

It says it right on the rebate as to which ones qualify. WSP is Winchester Small Pistol, etc.

Maximum $50 rebate

Christopher 761 said:

It says it right on the rebate as to which ones qualify. WSP is Winchester Small Pistol, etc.

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I see it now, thanks. Must have glossed over that when I was looking at it in another add that was also promoting the new Match Grade primers.

Local shop has Winchester pistol primers for $30/1000 out the door. $28 before tax. That means $7/1000 rebate. I'll be there tomorrow to pick up my 7k of primers.

Texas10mm said:

Local shop has Winchester pistol primers for $30/1000 out the door. $28 before tax. That means $7/1000 rebate. I'll be there tomorrow to pick up my 7k of primers.

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The largest, best stocked shop to me is about 2hrs. away but that's OK because we will be there June 10 for a family get together so yes I will be stopping also. They are also the only local shop that carries 4# of Ramshot Silhouette which I've been using a lot of.

Kinda interested in the new 'match' primers,,, Not seeing them around a lot,,,

Just submitted the paperwork on 4K WLP primers.

Skgreen said:

Kinda interested in the new 'match' primers,,, Not seeing them around a lot,,,

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Curious as to what the advantage is or how much of an improvement they make.

Anyone have a comparison with CCI and Win primers? Been using CCI but this maybe too good to pass up. Just don't want to mess with good loads too much.

ohihunter2014 said:

Anyone have a comparison with CCI and Win primers? Been using CCI but this maybe too good to pass up. Just don't want to mess with good loads too much.

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I use mostly CCI primers but a few years back during another Winchester rebate I bought a lot of WLP and some WLR primers. I can't shoot well enough to tell if there is any difference. I would buy either Win or CCI when the price is right.

I use the Winchester WSP because I have one pistol that refuses to fire CCI primers otherwise I cannot tell either.

ohihunter2014 said:

Anyone have a comparison with CCI and Win primers? Been using CCI but this maybe too good to pass up. Just don't want to mess with good loads too much.

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For pistol loads, I do not believe difference will be enough to tell.

Been using CCI/Winchester SP primers for decades and bought whichever was cheaper/available. Even during last two component shortages where I had to buy whatever was in stock, Magtech/Fiocchi/Wolf/S&B all fired reliably and I didn't need to adjust any of my powder charges.

Only issue I had were a particular lot of Tula SP with harder cup that produced some failure to ignite that was resolved by shooting them in small primer 45ACP cases (Sig 1911, M&P45, PT145) and PMC NT (Non-Toxic) that required slightly more powder charge (.1-.2 gr).

Having said that, primer comparison will be one future myth busting thread that will seek to identify primers that will produce smallest groups - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-and-discussions.778197/page-10#post-10966692

bds said:

Having said that, primer comparison will be one future myth busting thread that will seek to identify primers that will produce smallest groups - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-and-discussions.778197/page-10#post-10966692

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Somewhere I recently read a report were someone did a study of pistol loads to compare the same load against the most popular primers though only using a chronograph to record speeds. As I recall the S&B were the slowest group and the Federal the fastest but even among the 4 primers tested the over-all speed variation wasn't that great, As I recall it was less than 50fps.

kmw1954 said:

someone did a study of pistol loads to compare the same load against the most popular primers ... among the 4 primers tested the over-all speed variation wasn't that great, As I recall it was less than 50fps.

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But what I am interested is not the Extreme Spread of muzzle velocities but consistency of velocity as translated into holes on target (Group size).

If a particular brand/lot of primers is more consistent in flash size and duration, it should translate into smaller group sizes.

I think what they were trying to show was that there wasn't that great a difference between brands as far as how they effected bullet speed. But it did clearly show that the Federal primers increased speed the greatest of the group and consistently. I don't recall this story mentioning anything to the effect of accuracy.

kmw1954 said:

I think what they were trying to show was that there wasn't that great a difference between brands as far as how they effected bullet speed. But it did clearly show that the Federal primers increased speed the greatest of the group and consistently. I don't recall this story mentioning anything to the effect of accuracy.

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The Rifleman's Journal (website that focused on 1000 yard/Palma Match reloading/shooting currently inactive) did a comparison of SR and LR flash size and duration study and subsequent affect on group size. Different brand primer definitely had an affect on group size and I am looking to see if that's the case for SP primers.