Is it time to fortify your ammo cache

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With ammo of all types avaliable and at a pretty darn good price. Do my fellow gunners believe in filling the larder to door busting levels? The reason I ask is there is an election in 16 months. And you never know what may happen. I am at the over full level myself. But I still buy a box of 22 or 9mm here and there. All other calibers I reload.
Do you think a run on ammo will happen again? Even without another mass shooting?
 
I predict there will be another run on ammo. when? idk.

one thing I would stock up on is powder and primers. I think components with be the first thing they try to outlaw.a lot of the shooting public does not reload and does not care if componets are available.. powder and primers can be construed as explosives to the general public by lawmakers and thus dupe the public into being ok with outlawing it.

already black powder is hard to find around here in a store. in fact I think the last mom and pop shop that kept it closed recently.

black powder can last forever if stored properly and smokeless powder also lasts a very long time if well kept.

that all being said, if creepy joe continues to be the frontrunner for the dems, he really doesn't scare me much.he is a doddering,feckless old fool and I don't see any real legislation of any kind being championed by him.buuuut I could be wrong.

in all reality, what would be the downside of having a well stocked ammo larder? nothing! never in history has anybody said "boy I really regret having all this ammo".

even if you decide to quit shooting in 10 years it could be sold at a profit im sure.
 
It makes more sense to stock up on components than loaded ammo since it's both less costly and gives you more options. I'm not suggesting more than a few years worth of supplies for personal use and not urgently but this involves personal decisions that are unique to each person. Some people have other priorities that are worthy of consideration.

Where I do speculate a change around election time is with AR-15's. I think there will either be:

A. an immediate increase in demand and rising prices; I cannot speculate at this point how much demand or how high the prices will go, but I think it's safe to say they can't go much farther down. At the moment there doesn't seem to be an immediate, credible threat of regulation from a radical leftist administration that would result in a sharp increase in demand. This could change or there might just be a meaningful number of "just'n case" buyers if a moderate were to start leading in the polls.

or

B. certainty of further slump and a substantial number of vendors going out of business. I can only imagine that some are holding on for another year with paper-thin margins or red-ink and they'll decide it's not worth continuing if there isn't an increase in demand that allows them to raise prices and increase margins. What this will mean is supplier consolidation and fewer choices for parts and ultimately rising prices as some of the competition exits the market.
 
Im well healed on reloading components. And like I said. Store ammo is the same. Just a habit to always get a box or two a week when I go to the store.. Figure my son will get a huge cache when my time comes. I know one thing. I will never be short on ammo for any of my weapons and be like the folks that paid $50 + for a $19 brick of 22lr. Or be like the leeches trolling the stores for that ammo shipment.
 
It's a little early to be panicking again, don't ya think?

Sure, there are some good deals these days, and we should take advantage within reason. No brainer.

And let's keep the politics out of it. :)
 
I'm pretty much just 'rotating stock' now. (I reload)

Taking advantage of Sales here and there.

Hard to talk myself out of 'buying more' at times, but I seem to betting better at it. (I find that if I'm in doubt, performing an inventory reassures me that I don't need anything,,,)

Will prices go up? Sure. Will there be a 'mass shortage' again? Eh, probably, but when and for how long is anyone's guess.

I don't fret it. Got plenty of other things to fret about.
 
I'm still in decent shape and except for a few "special" cartridges (like .44 Special and .38 Super), I'm pretty well set with all of the mainstream ammo like .22LR, .380, .38 Special, 9mm., .45 ACP, .223, and 7.62x39.

Did pick up some of that new CCI Quiet .22 ammo but haven't had a chance yet to try it out to hear how quiet it really is!
 
357smallbore said:
With ammo of all types avaliable and at a pretty darn good price. Do my fellow gunners believe in filling the larder to door busting levels? The reason I ask is there is an election in 16 months. And you never know what may happen. I am at the over full level myself. But I still buy a box of 22 or 9mm here and there. All other calibers I reload.
Do you think a run on ammo will happen again? Even without another mass shooting?
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As long as people can be stirred up into a frenzy by the media and showboating politicians, yes!
 
It can’t hurt to buy all the 22 ammo you can at $.05/round and sell it for $.15/round during the next panic. AR mags, too.

I could’ve retired at 30 years old had I known the last panic was coming.
 
I think we should always buy ammo and stock up. Shortages have proven to be unpredictable. You would think that there is plenty of ammo and reloading components around. But, at the Tulsa gun show in April my favorite supplier of Hornady 17gr 17 HMR ammo had very little and ran out the first day. The vendor said they were having trouble getting it. I have plenty so it didn't affect me, but I was surprised. Also, no one in the show, all 4200 tables of it, had small rifle primers. Couldn't believe it. Again, I have plenty, which is why I stock up when I can. Also helps to take advantage of really good deals when they occur. I failed to do that and missed fantastic sales on 17HMR and 22 ammo at Reed's. Still kicking myself. So, yeah, stock up when you can.
 
Even if there isn’t a run you can still shoot it prices go up over time
 
I hoard ammunition although I suspect that my "hoarding" is probably a pittance compared to some of our member's stockpiles.

The ammunition panics of the Obama years taught me my lesson well. They also taught me that another ammo panic is not only likely but inevitable. We have an ammunition envelope that we put a couple of bucks in every payday and when we find a sale we buy.

Even if there's never another panic ammunition doesn't just go bad and it's likely that it will never again be cheaper than it is right now
 
labnoti said:
It makes more sense to stock up on components than loaded ammo since it's both less costly and gives you more options. I'm not suggesting more than a few years worth of supplies for personal use and not urgently but this involves personal decisions that are unique to each person. Some people have other priorities that are worthy of consideration.

Where I do speculate a change around election time is with AR-15's. I think there will either be:

A. an immediate increase in demand and rising prices; I cannot speculate at this point how much demand or how high the prices will go, but I think it's safe to say they can't go much farther down. At the moment there doesn't seem to be an immediate, credible threat of regulation from a radical leftist administration that would result in a sharp increase in demand. This could change or there might just be a meaningful number of "just'n case" buyers if a moderate were to start leading in the polls.

or

B. certainty of further slump and a substantial number of vendors going out of business. I can only imagine that some are holding on for another year with paper-thin margins or red-ink and they'll decide it's not worth continuing if there isn't an increase in demand that allows them to raise prices and increase margins. What this will mean is supplier consolidation and fewer choices for parts and ultimately rising prices as some of the competition exits the market.
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Well said, sir. Don't be surprised if I copy/paste this entire post into one of my Economics lessons. Spot. on.
 
Vista Outdoor is struggling quite badly financially due to the lack of demand. They own a wide variety of ammo companies such as Federal, Speer, CCI, Blazer, American Eagle, Alliant Powder, RCBS; as well as other firearm companies such as Bushnell, Weaver, Simmons, Tasco, Primos, Blackhawk, Butler Creek, Uncle Mikes, Hoppes 9, Gunslick Pro, Redfield, Savage, and more.

Get what you can while you can because if Trump gets reelected then lack of demand may cause a shortage if some of these companies reduce production or fold, or if Trump isn't reelected then there'll be a huge panic buy right up until everything becomes illegal anyway.
 
fjblair said:
Ammo shortages and inflated gun/ammo prices are created entirely by panic buying by paranoia and herd mentality from the gun crowd. It's not policy driven, it is a self fulfilling prophecy. Every single time.
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The root causes have no bearing on the fact that there is a shortage. People are not going to quit panic buying. So it seems to me that the sensible thing to do is to build a stock now when there isn't a panic so that when there is you're well situated
 
Wisco said:
It can’t hurt to buy all the 22 ammo you can at $.05/round and sell it for $.15/round during the next panic. AR mags, too.

I could’ve retired at 30 years old had I known the last panic was coming.
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I hear that, but consider Sam Gabbert (the owner of SGAmmo). He's still clearing stock from the last banic (just had a sale on the last few cases of a special Barnaul load he had made), much of it below cost. I hope they make it, they're nice folks.

I wouldn't want to wager my retirement on timing a market as volatile as Arms. Too many people who do this for a living get caught out on the short end.

What I am happy to wager is that I'll still be shooting, one way or another, 6 or 8 cases of primers from now.
 
ridgerunner1965 said:
. . . in all reality, what would be the downside of having a well stocked ammo larder? nothing! never in history has anybody said "boy I really regret having all this ammo".
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I believe it's official possible to have too much ammo, but only if you're swimming or on fire. :neener::fire:
(The smiley with the hands is swimming. . .)
 
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