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A couple weeks ago I picked up an RIA 9mm Tac II.

Yesterday was the first real range trip with it.

I had two different mags on hand. The MecGar mags that came with it and some mags from Joe on eBay.

The MecGar mags in this pistol are junk. Nose dives like I've never seen. This was with four different reloads. They worked fine with some bulk 9mm factory stuff my buddy had.

The mags from Joe https://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-type-...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 worked about 75% of the time. Then they would start nose diving on me.

I'm starting to understand the frustration with 9mm 1911 pistols.

Please note that my reloads work just fine in my Sig P365, Canik TP9SFX, S&W 5906, and Ruger PCC.

The MecGar mags have the spacer in the front of the mag and the mags from Joe have them at the back of the mag.

I had hoped to use this in our defensive pistol matches but there's no way it's reliable enough to do so.

Any tips or hints on how to get this 9mm 1911 running?

I've owned a bunch of 1911 pistols in .45 ACP and 10mm. Never had this problem.
 
The late Todd L. Green did a long term 9mm 1911 review. He tried a bunch of different mags, but ended up staying with Wilson Combat ETM's.

He has a lot of posts to search through, but here is one comment...

http://pistol-training.com/archives/7310

So, I continue to rely primarily on Wilson ETM magazines for practice and exclusively for carry. These are the mags that everyone from Burton to Ken Hackathorn told me to use before this test even began. But did I listen? Well, lesson learned.
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metalform, checkmate, mccormick, wilson combat ETM. All of these are proven performers for 9mm 1911s.
Good luck with your new pistol.

Stock mags are often junk. (opinion)
 
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I only have the one 9mm 1911 (Dan Wesson Valkyrie CCO) but it runs perfect with everything I've tried in it, I run Wilson ETM,a Chip McCormick and metalform mags.

I do remember that my dad was told by Wilson when he got his to load his ammo a bit longer (1.15") and I know his does not like some fatter flat point ammo, tighter throat.
 
Are those mags the hybrid style? You can tell by the feed lips being noticeably wider in the front than in the rear. This type seems to be the best for the 9mm 1911s to prevent nose-dives. If they are, try this. Use your support hand to purposefully push the mag up firmly into the mag-well keeping it bottomed-out while firing. If this helps then you may need to get a mag release that is offset slightly to raise the mags higher when seated. From what I read, RA will send you a new mag release to fix this issue if you ask. Other than that I would try a different brand of mag. I have the two mags that came with my R1 9mm, along with 8 others made by Metalform and they all are hybrid, and function 100%.
 
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Are those mags the hybrid style? You can tell by the feed lips being noticeably wider in the front than in the rear. This type seems to be the best for the 9mm 1911s to prevent nose-dives. If they are, try this. Use your support hand to purposefully push the mag up firmly into the mag-well keeping it bottomed-out while firing. If this helps then you may need to get a mag release that is offset slightly to raise the mags higher when seated. From what I read, RA will send you a new mag release to fix this issue if you ask. Other than that I would try a different brand of mag. I have the two mags that came with my R1 9mm, along with 8 others made by Metalform and they all are hybrid, and function 100%.
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Thanks. I'll have to givethat a try.
 
BC17A said:
Are those mags the hybrid style? You can tell by the feed lips being noticeably wider in the front than in the rear. This type seems to be the best for the 9mm 1911s to prevent nose-dives.
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I'm not saying they aren't hybrid lipped mags, but I'd be surprised if they were. Most of the top 1911 mags use wadcutter feed lips, from Chip McCormick, to Tripp Research, to Wilson Combat.

The hybrid lipped mags are a Colt design and while Metalform did supply mags to Colt in the past, I believe CheckMate may be the only current producer of hybrid lipped 1911 mags. For whatever reason, CheckMate currently doesn't offer a hybrid lipped 9mm mag.

CheckMate http://www.checkmatemagazines.com/i...&task=listing&cid=26&name=1911-9mm&Itemid=298

If you're wondering, here is a look at the different feed lip designs.

http://www.checkmatemagazines.com/i...ntent&view=article&id=314&Itemid=367#Feed_Lip
 
Statistics are strange things. I have three 9mm 1911's and they all work just fine. The one I got recently was made by RIA.
 
The reason I wanted to confirm you had a ramped barrel is because sometimes a ramped barrel is fit too far away from the magazine which allows the round to nose-dive so much that it hits the ramp too low resulting in failures-to-feed. The fix may be to fit a new barrel so that the ramp slightly overhangs the magazine well, then cut the overhang off so that it is flush with inside of the mag well at full lock down.

Pull the barrel out of the slide then put the barrel on the frame (with the slide stop through the link) and push it as far down and to the rear as you can. Obeserve the bottom of the ramp to see if it is flush with the inside of the mag well.

If you get lucky, you may find a magazine that cures the problem and avoid the cost and time associated with a new barrel.
 
Texas10mm said:
I've got three Wilson mags coming. Maybe that will help. I'll check the barrel fit too.
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Note the directions when they arrive...

https://s3.amazonaws.com/wilsoncombat/files/47Series.pdf
Like other mechanical devices, your Wilson Combat®magazine may be a little stiff when first used. This is normal and should not effect its feeding capabilities, however you will notice that as you use your magazine it will become easier to load and seat in your pistol and it will function even more smoothly over time. If you wish to expedite the break in process simply leave your new magazine loaded to capacity for a day or two, this will pre-set the spring to normal operating tension.
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Integral ramps are frequently too steep for good feeding in the name of "case support". I had to have my SAs' ramps recontoured for reliable feeding. They now have about the same "case support" as my plain Colt and are a lot better with different bullet shapes.
 
No nose dives with my Kimber 9mm and Kimber mags w/rear spacers. Very smooth feeding with FMJ or JHP. One mag causes failures to lock open though.
The Kimbers don't have that extra little lip bend at the top front like the Wilsons do, and they're rated for 9, but only hold 8.

Would like to hear your review when you get your mags.
 
I have had good luck with these
2 Springfield "Loaded" model 9mm 1911s
https://www.brownells.com/magazines/handgun-magazines/magazines/1911-9mm-magazines-prod84195.aspx

Also picked up some of these on sale for about $14 ea, they seem to work fine as well
https://www.cdnnsports.com/1911-10rd-9mm-zenith-magazine.html

I had issues with one, can't remember if it was Mec Gar or Metalform,
Both of the above are 10 rounds and seem fine in my guns.
1000s of round on the Brownells mags.

Stock Springfield mags are fine but only 9 rounds.

A 1911 in 9mm is a sweet range gun IMO
 
TAC is double stack or single? RIA Single Stack 9mm OE Mag is Metalform, I bought 4 extra Metalform mags for my 2 Single Stack RIA 9mms, all work well except the last round hold open occasionally won't work, need to spread the mag followers open a bit to engage the hold open "finger" better, I heard it is a common issue with other 9mm 1911s as well. 9mm hold open has a longer finger, my 2 RIA 9mms are with the correct last round hold opens already but still need to spread the magazine followers open a bit.
 
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