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I recently decided to get into the suppressor game. Actually a few weeks before the Virginia shooting, so truly is not a panic decision.

I ordered a Silencerco Hybrid today. The thought being that it appears to be a decent product that will be useful with a number of handguns and rifles that I own. My question is for those with experience with the Hybrid. What else do I need?

I ordered a 1/2x28 direct thread mount for my AR
I ordered a 9mm front end cap (was this actually necessary?)
I ordered a 1/2x28 standard length piston for my Beretta M9a3 and CZ Scorpion
I ordered a 13.5x1 left hand for my Sig MPX

Do I need an end cap for each caliber or just leave the .46 on that it comes with?

Do I need the extra length piston for anything?

Are other manufacturers or other Silencerco model accessories compatible?

Am I missing any necessary parts? I figure I have a good 6-10 months to figure it all out. Thanks!
 
guyfromohio said:
What else do I need?

I ordered a 1/2x28 direct thread mount for my AR
I ordered a 9mm front end cap (was this actually necessary?)
I ordered a 1/2x28 standard length piston for my Beretta M9a3 and CZ Scorpion
I ordered a 13.5x1 left hand for my Sig MPX

Do I need an end cap for each caliber or just leave the .46 on that it comes with?
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Just to verify, you know that you don't use pistons in their normal configuration with any fixed barrel firearm (like your PCCs), only recoil operated pistols, right? You can use a fixed barrel spacer in place of the spring to effectively turn a piston into a bigger, heavier direct thread mount. You might as well use the same 1/2x28 DT mount on your AR and CZ Scorpion, if no one offers a 13.5x1 LH DT mount for your MPX, you may be stuck using a piston and a fixed barrel spacer.
 
guyfromohio said:
I recently decided to get into the suppressor game. Actually a few weeks before the Virginia shooting, so truly is not a panic decision.

I ordered a Silencerco Hybrid today. The thought being that it appears to be a decent product that will be useful with a number of handguns and rifles that I own. My question is for those with experience with the Hybrid. What else do I need?

I ordered a 1/2x28 direct thread mount for my AR
I ordered a 9mm front end cap (was this actually necessary?)
I ordered a 1/2x28 standard length piston for my Beretta M9a3 and CZ Scorpion
I ordered a 13.5x1 left hand for my Sig MPX

Do I need an end cap for each caliber or just leave the .46 on that it comes with?

Do I need the extra length piston for anything?

Are other manufacturers or other Silencerco model accessories compatible?

Am I missing any necessary parts? I figure I have a good 6-10 months to figure it all out. Thanks!
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In addition to the comments above...

According to SiCo, you need the long piston for the Beretta M9.

You won't notice an appreciable difference between the 9mm end cap and the standard end cap.

It doesn't look like SiCo makes a 13.5x1 LH direct thread mount. You can look into either the fixed barrel adapter mentioned above, or look into a thread adapter for the gun. Is your MPX one of the ones with the tapered shoulder? That makes a difference too.
 
@Gtscotty covered well what you do and do not need the pistons for.

A good heat resistant suppressor cover is nice. When you want to leave the range after shooting it's nice not to have to wait to take off your suppressor, or if you are wanting to switch between guns, etc.

I use the ASR QD mounts for my Hybrid, something to consider, but it seems as if you are going to be using yours for a lot of pistols so it would get old for you going back and forth between the direct thread adapter and the ASR adapter on your Hybrid. I really enjoy my ASR QD mounts but I use mine more for different rifles rather than pistols.
 
Gtscotty said:
Just to verify, you know that you don't use pistons in their normal configuration with any fixed barrel firearm (like your PCCs), only recoil operated pistols, right? You can use a fixed barrel spacer in place of the spring to effectively turn a piston into a bigger, heavier direct thread mount. You might as well use the same 1/2x28 DT mount on your AR and CZ Scorpion, if no one offers a 13.5x1 LH DT mount for your MPX, you may be stuck using a piston and a fixed barrel spacer.
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Great info! And no....I'm totally green to the whole thing and can't find a "suppressors for dummies" version. I thought the piston was for pistol calibers because it slowed the recoil down too much to cycle the gun. I see the reasoning you described though and it makes far more sense.
 
pdsmith505 said:
In addition to the comments above...

According to SiCo, you need the long piston for the Beretta M9.

You won't notice an appreciable difference between the 9mm end cap and the standard end cap.

It doesn't look like SiCo makes a 13.5x1 LH direct thread mount. You can look into either the fixed barrel adapter mentioned above, or look into a thread adapter for the gun. Is your MPX one of the ones with the tapered shoulder? That makes a difference too.
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Where did you find the info regarding the long piston and the M9? I believe you, but can't find that type of info.
 
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@Gtscotty covered well what you do and do not need the pistons for.

A good heat resistant suppressor cover is nice. When you want to leave the range after shooting it's nice not to have to wait to take off your suppressor, or if you are wanting to switch between guns, etc.

I use the ASR QD mounts for my Hybrid, something to consider, but it seems as if you are going to be using yours for a lot of pistols so it would get old for you going back and forth between the direct thread adapter and the ASR adapter on your Hybrid. I really enjoy my ASR QD mounts but I use mine more for different rifles rather than pistols.
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Ok, I've read quite a bit about pros and cons of the ASR QD mount, but what the hell is it? These are things that I have huge questions about.
 
The ASR QD mount is two pieces.

One piece replaces the direct thread mount on the suppressor itself, it has a knurled cam that has internal teeth.

The second piece is a muzzle device that replaces the muzzle device on typically a long gun. So on an AR15 for instance you would take the A2 birdcage flash suppressor off it and buy the muzzle device that matches the threads on the barrel. The ASR muzzle devices from Silencerco come in two different options, flash suppressor or brake (but only one is available sometimes for certain thread diameters/pitches).

The muzzle device gets mounted to the rifle with rockset ( provided with the device) and torque. The suppressor with the ASR QD Mount slips over the muzzle device and threads on with course threading until snug and then one turns the cam on the ASR QD slightly which cams the internal teeth mentioned above into corresponding external teeth on the ASR muzzle device thus preventing the suppressor from loosening on the course threads.

It is a very nice system for one with multiple long guns that will use the suppressor as it takes very little time to change from gun to gun. Downsides are that one must buy a muzzle device for each gun to the tune of $65-90 depending on if one gets them on sale or not. But one is faced with a similar scenario needing to buy thread adapters for different pitches for the direct thread mount as well, so it’s not as big of an outlay difference between the two as it seems. Another downside is if you are using the Hybrid for handguns as well the you will be switching back and forth from the ASR QD Mount to the Direct Thread mount on the suppressor.

Upsides to the QD Mount is that one can retain muzzle devices (brake or flash hider) on their long guns for shooting without the suppressor. Another positive is the muzzle devices become a blast chamber of sorts for the suppressor which take the most hot and highest pressure point of the explosion theoretically prolonging the life of the first few inches of the suppressor. The QD Mount is also nice in the fact that the threads used initially are course threaded which is fast and easier to line up when threading on than the direct thread mounts.
 
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<*(((>< said:
The ASR QD mount is two pieces.

One piece replaces the direct thread mount on the suppressor itself, it has a knurled cam that has internal teeth.

The second piece is a muzzle device that replaces the muzzle device on typically a long gun. So on an AR15 for instance you would take the A2 birdcage flash suppressor on it and buy the muzzle device that matches the threads on the barrel. The ASR muzzle devices from Silencerco come in two different options, flash suppressor or brake (but only one is available sometimes for certain thread diameters/pitches).

The muzzle device gets mounted to the rifle with rockset ( provided with the device) and torque. The suppressor with the ASR QD Mount slips over the muzzle device and threads on with course threading until snug and then one turns the cam on the ASR QD slightly which Ams the internal teeth mentioned above into corresponding external teeth on the ASR muzzle device thus preventing the suppressor from loosening on the course threads.

It is a very nice system for one with multiple long guns that will use the suppressor as it takes very little time to change from gun to gun. Downsides are that one must buy a muzzle device for each gun to the tune of $65-90 depending on if one gets them on sale or not. But one is faced with a similar scenario needing to buy thread adapters for different pitches for the direct thread mount as well, so it’s not as big of an outlay difference between the two as it seems. Another downside is if you are using the Hybrid for handguns as well the you will be switching back and forth from the ASR QD Mount to the Direct Thread mount on the suppressor.

Upsides to the QD Mount is that one can retain muzzle devices (brake or flash hider) on their long guns for shooting without the suppressor. Another positive is the muzzle devices become a blast chamber of sorts for the suppressor which take the most hot and highest pressure point of the explosion theoretically prolonging the life of the first few inches of the suppressor. The QD Mount is also nice in the fact that the threads used initially are course threaded which is fast and easier to line up when threading on than the direct thread mounts.
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Thank you. So instead of having an adapter for my AR, AK, Tavor, and then having to remove the muzzle device each time, I simply buy a muzzle device for each that fits the threading and just slip the suppressor on each. I'll see what I can find. Thank you again.
 
guyfromohio said:
Thank you. So instead of having an adapter for my AR, AK, Tavor, and then having to remove the muzzle device each time, I simply buy a muzzle device for each that fits the threading and just slip the suppressor on each. I'll see what I can find. Thank you again.
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Exactly, that way you can have a muzzle device (whether it be a flash hider or brake) that stays on the rifle when not using the suppressor. I liked that idea. Just make sure you get your thread pitch and diameter right when looking at the muzzle devices.
 
Thanks guys. I've ordered ASR mount and a few muzzle devices as well as the correct piston. Also ordered a few threaded barrels. Now watch them outlaw them before I can even get my stamp.
 
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