Democrats Introduce Bill Allowing Shooting Victims To Sue Gun Industry

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The Equal Access to Justice for Victims of Gun Violence Act aims to repeal federal protections blocking firearm and ammunition manufacturers, dealers and trade groups from most civil lawsuits when a firearm is used unlawfully or in a crime.

Those protections date to 2005, with the passage of the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.

Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., one of the bill's co-sponsors, said since PLCAA became law, state and federal courts have "dismissed numerous cases against the gun industry," adding that other cases were likely not brought at all.

He forgets to add that they are frivolous lawsuits.





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https://www.npr.org/2019/06/11/7316...allowing-shooting-victims-to-sue-gun-industry
 
Bones741 said:
Yep and if I get hit by a drunk driver who's driving a silverado, I should be able to sue Chevy.....makes sense!!:scrutiny:
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And whoever made the liquor, and the alcohol beverage board since they "approved" the sale of said spirits, etc, etc. ANYONE but the real person responsible for the crime, we can't do that.

Politicians should be sued when they prevent people from protecting themselves from evil. THAT is the crime, not the creation nor sale of an inanimate object. Of course their attempt at PR is just that, won't go anywhere with the Senate now but they have to get those sound bites in.
 
This would not override tort law, which requires that culpability, such as negligence, must be shown. What this would do is encourage frivolous lawsuits, thereby driving up the industry's legal expenses. This could push certain companies, which are already in financial trouble, over the edge.

On the other hand, if this eventually passes, it will be part of a larger antigun push. Such a larger antigun push would cause a panic, which would drive up sales and ironically save the gun industry. Strange unintended consequences at work here.
 
They tried this end run before, that’s why we have the 2005 legislation. If they want to repeal something try the 1968 ban.
 
Again?

So this shouldn’t be a surprise.

The only way this will stop is if we stay calm, explain the poor logic and lack of sense behind this to democratic voters when engaged.

Vote. Speak softly. Stay calm. Write your representatives. Don’t take the bait. Support your gun ownership and gun industry advocacy groups.
 
AlexanderA said:
This would not override tort law, which requires that culpability, such as negligence, must be shown. What this would do is encourage frivolous lawsuits, thereby driving up the industry's legal expenses. This could push certain companies, which are already in financial trouble, over the edge.

On the other hand, if this eventually passes, it will be part of a larger antigun push. Such a larger antigun push would cause a panic, which would drive up sales and ironically save the gun industry. Strange unintended consequences at work here.
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Save the gun industry with a large panic buying wave? Not sure if that would be enough.
 
Lol, what a shame we have to be politically correct on this forum. But when a group of people does something insanely stupid and then does it again right in your face, then kind of hard to be politically correct. But I am trying. trying real hard to be the good Shepard. But I am growing weak. I feel a future banning coming my way. Just don't know how much longer I can hold out.
 
460Shooter said:
Again?

So this shouldn’t be a surprise.

The only way this will stop is if we stay calm, explain the poor logic and lack of sense behind this to democratic voters when engaged.

Vote. Speak softly. Stay calm. Write your representatives. Don’t take the bait. Support your gun ownership and gun industry advocacy groups.
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This should get us further than any poo slinging tirade ever will.
 
AlexanderA said:
This would not override tort law, which requires that culpability, such as negligence, must be shown. What this would do is encourage frivolous lawsuits, thereby driving up the industry's legal expenses. This could push certain companies, which are already in financial trouble, over the edge.

On the other hand, if this eventually passes, it will be part of a larger antigun push. Such a larger antigun push would cause a panic, which would drive up sales and ironically save the gun industry. Strange unintended consequences at work here.
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Of course, many states simply punt what is negligent or “unreasonably dangerous” to juries. Product liability law is rather appalling when you get into the mechanics of how plays out in actual litigation. You get 7 people on a jury who just hate a product class or hate corporations generally or who think giving big paydays to people in bad situations means good karma for their soul, and logic and the law no longer matter very much.
 
I don’t really identify as a Democrat or Republican, but my views are definitely left of center, and I am far from a single issue voter. I am smart enough though to know that this idea is absurd, and a very slippery slope.
 
The way I see it, every politician will be trying to out do the next one for ridiculous anti gun laws. Maybe even Republicans. Doesn't matter even if they won't be able to make them stick, as always, it's the perception.

So what does this mean to us? It means it's time to start stockpiling ammo and get the gun you were thinking about now. In less than a year the next banic will be starting and prices will escalate and product will disappear off the shelves. Again.

As the Boy Scouts used to say, Be Prepared.
 
On the other hand, lawyers are the only ones who have any clue how the particular language of a law will play out. Like it or not, there is a learned skill to drafting rules to work as intended. Lawyers are generally pretty bad at it... and everyone else is a thousand times worse.
 
Yet politicians have legislative immunity, no matter how many innocent people are harmed by their disingenuous legal actions.........
 
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