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Those are far more effective than the little expanding metal tubes they issue these days.
 
Reminds me of T.J. Hooker. That's the first time I ever saw one of those, and I remember thinking how unpleasant it would be to get clobbered by one.
 
If you're properly trained to use (I never was since my outfit didn't use them...) one that's an outstanding control and impact weapon. Without the training look out since a bigger, stronger, quicker opponent would pretty easily take it away from you then use it to your downfall....
 
I liked the old school wood straight batons the best. Sadly no one uses them anymore. ASP expandables are the new norm. Monadnock also makes an expandle baton. They are still in business up in Fitzwilliam ,NH last time I checked?
 
Never had anything so fancy. We had straight sticks with a Koga stop or 5 cell Kel-Lites.
 
The metal ball on the grip end of those straight batons...we called a "rib splitter". They have all but been eliminated from all police dept inventories.
The "less lethal "asp batons are the required equipment. No one carries large flashlights anymore either.
 
I have the standard PR with my riot gear but carry the collapsible PR on my belt at work. Way better than the straight collapsible ASP.
 
I was trained in the use of the PR-24 by Arbrey Futrell. For those that don't know Arbrey Futrell, he is the LEO instructor from Louisiana that came up with the most powerful strike with the PR-24. It is called the Arbrey Futrell Power Strike. It is the only strike with a PR-24 baton that is capable of breaking the Femur.
I was also trained in the use of the ASP. I carried an ASP on my belt and a PR-24 in my car for about two years and then switched to the Monadnock expandable side handle baton.
I remember arriving on a call as backup not long after I started carrying the Monadnock side handle . Two younger Officers were out with a guy that was about 6' 250 lbs. When I got out of my unit I could see the guy was pissed and chipping his teeth (talking trash) to the two officers. Once I got out the guy stopped talking and put his hands on the hood of one of the officer's vehicle and became very calm. They checked him for weapons, to which he had none, and ended up writing him a summons, I don't recoil the charge. But once they were done one of the younger Officers asked why he went from being aggressive to being compliant.
The guy said, Y'all carry them little sticks, then pointed at me, But he got out that car with gloves on and that stick with that handle. I knew he meant business, and it's harder for y'all to carry that stick with the handle so I knew that he knew how to use it. And I didn't want him to hit me.
I only had to use my Monadnock expandable side handle baton once. All I will say about that is the guy wasn't happy and I had to do a lot of paperwork.
 
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I loved my ASP because of the compactness and lightweight. Can easily be carried on the duty belt with little discomfort when getting in and out of the patrol car. Traded in my PR24 for the ASP!
 
Never carried one, but they were popular in the 70s. Gunny said it right. With the proper training, they were very effective. Application to a subject's pressure points can render one immobile, allowing the officers to control a situation. The tazer has taken over that roll.

I always wanted to see in person what one could do with the weapon, but never met a brother who carried one.
 
Other side of coin is using the stick on a fema!e.

The only time I got hurt on the job was from a 250 lb female while breaking up a bar brawl.
She broke my nose. Blood everywhere!
I went in to find her wailing on another cop. I had the stick in my hand but being new said I cant hit a female with a stick and went hands on.
After she hit me I deployed the stick and played catch up to cuff her for the impending ambulance ride.
I took a a lot of ribbing and was the butt end of a lot of jokes.
Ex.
What is red white and blue?

Doc, After fighting with a girl!
 
The PR-24, the "Prosecutor", I never learned how to use (EMS/FD not PD) but a stick is a stick. Different sizes, weights, ETC, but there are only so many ways to fight with one. I seem to have a growing "collection", the majority of which, can't leave the house. Would that they could, but... so I'm left to flashlights (in the car), walking sticks and Sharpies.

Regards, Jim

ETA: I don't know how I did that, but ended up with 5 of the same post. Hence, 4 deletes. Sorry.
 
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Man, I remember practicing the "Georgia State Police Takedown" with the PR-24 for days and weeks. Cool move if you got good at it.

Had a partner once drew his PR-24 when we responded to a multiple person fight in a club parking lot … one combatant told my partner where he was gonna stick the baton … so my partner put his baton back in the ring and drew his pistol. As it was not a lethal force situation, yeah, we were in trouble for a while. Our chief yelled just like Eddie Murphy's boss in "Beverly Hills Cop."

Now I got an ASP. Meh.
 
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I was trained in the use of the PR-24 by Arbrey Futrell. For those that don't know Arbrey Futrell, he is the LEO instructor from Louisiana that came up with the most powerful strike with the PR-24. It is called the Arbrey Futrell Power Strike. It is the only strike with a PR-24 baton that is capable of breaking the Femur.
I was also trained in the use of the ASP. I carried an ASP on my belt and a PR-24 in my car for about two years and then switched to the Monadnock expandable side handle baton.
I remember arriving on a call as backup not long after I started carrying the Monadnock side handle . Two younger Officers were out with a guy that was about 6' 250 lbs. When I got out of my unit I could see the guy was pissed and chipping his teeth (talking trash) to the two officers. Once I got out the guy stopped talking and put his hands on the hood of one of the officer's vehicle and became very calm. They checked him for weapons, to which he had none, and ended up writing him a summons, I don't recoil the charge. But once they were done one of the younger Officers asked why he went from being aggressive to being compliant.
The guy said, Y'all carry them little sticks, then pointed at me, But he got out that car with gloves on and that stick with that handle. I knew he meant business, and it's harder for y'all to carry that stick with the handle so I knew that he knew how to use it. And I didn't want him to hit me.
I only had to use my Monadnock expandable side handle baton once. All I will say about that is the guy wasn't happy and I had to do a lot of paperwork.
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People in their right minds really can tell when somebody capable means business.
 
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