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Many people would argue that none of the ones you list are true customs. I'm not touching this one...
Ed Brown, Wilson, Baer are not customs ? please elaborate............
Many people would argue that none of the ones you list are true customs. I'm not touching this one...
Most people in the biz would call them factory customs or semi-customs. There is no doubt a lot of hand fitting goes into them and they are awesome. I'm partial to Ed Brown (and Dan Wesson) myself.Ed Brown, Wilson, Baer are not customs ? please elaborate............
You order table d'hôte, rather than à la carteEd Brown, Wilson, Baer are not customs ? please elaborate............
Dan WessonLes Baer, Nighthawk, Ed Brown, Wilson Combat? An interesting question with, I'm guessing no right answers. Hopefully an interesting conversation!
High end 1911s like Brown, Wilson, Baer and others are built by several different craftsmen.
I have a Baer Ultimate Tactical Carry (I hate that name) on which tark did the checkering and slide fit. Across more than 40 years of 1911 carry, professional and personal, this gun is the finest defensive firearm I own. This gun is nothing but all business, and it runs like a fat boy after an ice cream truck.
if you think Wilson in a $4,000.00 + gun is not a la carte, great for you for having so much money and taste.You order table d'hôte, rather than à la carte
You're taking my response out of the context of the question which I was responding to, however...if you think Wilson in a $4,000.00 + gun is not a la carte, great for you for having so much money and taste.
Beautiful. The edges of the front strap checkering look a little sloppy to my eye though.To me, a true custom gun is one that is bespoken and made from start to finish by one craftsman who does all the work himself. High end 1911s like Brown, Wilson, Baer and others are built by several different craftsmen. They may be expert at what they do and even have cross training at other jobs, but They usually do only one or two jobs. Mine was fitting frames to slides and checkering. I have fitted over 20,000 frames and slides in my 21 years.
This semi-custom "production line" approach can and does result in a pistol every bit as good as a true one man custom gun.
Consider my avatar. I would put it up against any custom 1911 ever built by anyone at any time. The engraving is hand chiseled the old fashioned way. The grips are real ivory. The bluing is the old fashioned charcoal bluing, with the small parts being nitre blued. It locks up like a bank vault and will put bullets almost on top of each other at fifty yards. Or so the gun writer said. He requested a gun to write up so Les sent him this one as a prank. He called back and said there must be some mistake. He couldn't possibly shoot this gun. Les told him to "Shoot the snot out of it." If you know Les you have probably deducted that he didn't use the word "snot" So the writer put 200 rounds through it and I shot seven more, just to say I DID shoot it. This picture doesn't even begin to do it justice.
When I croak it will go to my son.
In NYS there is a REAL custom builder.Les Baer, Nighthawk, Ed Brown, Wilson Combat? An interesting question with, I'm guessing no right answers. Hopefully an interesting conversation!
I have seen his stuff and it is used on the actual shooting competition shows that are run by the real runners & gunners of the shooting trade.
BUT: Those "bottleneck" FCS jobs are just too cute.
if you think Wilson in a $4,000.00 + gun is not a la carte, great for you for having so much money and taste.
You're taking my response out of the context of the question which I was responding to, however...
Comparing a $4k Wilson to a $4k Chen isn't even apples vs. apples. There is a reason Stan has a years long waiting list...and it isn't just because he doesn't have a bunch of employees building them for him