Rem 700 trigger recall?

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I dont trust corporations. Sure as hell dont trust lawyers either.....esp when theres an agenda to demonize another type of firearm.
 
I did watch the cnbc show and thought it crafted to be very misleading. Obviously so. But when it came out many a gun owner was discussing it....online, in the shops......and it scared the hell out of me how so many swallowed it hook line and sinker. I sincerely doubt those folks to properly problem solve lol
 
But back to the topic.

Right or wrong one must be happy w their rifle. If buying a Timney or other eases concerns.....so be it.

Its not an expensive way to lower ones anxiety.
 
I just changed the springs on all my walkers. Thought that gave them a better adjustment range ( and by doing so never put them on the edge of being unsafe ). I also never crank rounds in and out of the chamber to unload.

Boringly uneventful.
 
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My first 700 was a 74 model BDL i got used. Trigger was nothing great and had not been messed with. A knowledgeable person showed me how to adjust it....and it was pretty obvious the factory spring didnt offer much range. Getting it light could make it unsafe.....you couldnt just say you wanted so many ounces and set it there. Some parts fit better than others. Some triggers could be set lighter than others. Even after spring upgrade.

Personally I dont trust any trigger.

I have yet to dig in and learn about my Steyr SBS
 
How many have crud in them, or were slogged w WD40 and gummed up?
I still see folks unload Remington bolt guns by cranking rounds in and out of the chamber.
Like monkeys on crack.

Learned as a kid to bump and flip em out into my hand, without fully chambering a round.

There was a recall on 600's way back IIRC.
There was a recall on the 600's & 660's too, but I have been told that the 600 Mohawks with the gold trigger were not recalled, but I see no reason that they would be any different.
 
Pops sent my 660 back. Thats all I remember.

I really dont care if folks hate Remington or the Walker triggers.

Just dont care for junk science and dishonesty.

That cnbc show IMHO was to demonize bolt guns.....esp the most popular. To shut down the company w unjust lawsuit pile on.....

And because of all the sniper shows/popularity.

Dont think Cerberus needed any help LOL
 
I bought a model 7 off a long time hunter. He said it had a great trigger.....he adjusted it....... had to shut the bolt lightly or it would trip.

He thought that OK !

Saw a supposed smith adj a non remington trigger and tap the bbl on the edge of the table and call it " safe ".

I was stunned.

Scary world out there.
 
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I have four 700s. I've changed triggers in 3 of them...two with Timney and the other a Shilen. My 243 VLS went off when my buddy slid the safety off; this after years of no problems. The gunsmith told me that many things can cause it, including a bit of dirt. But, I changed it anyway. My .270 is older than the other three, but is in that age group in question. I've used it some for deer hunting, but not as much as the other three. Not in a hurry to replace the trigger since I rarely shoot the .270. I say, "better safe than sorry".
 
This has created at least one horror story that was on one of those criminal investigation shows.
This guy and his wife amicably divorced but still liked to hunt together.
Out hunting they were calling Turkey.
They where on the verge of getting a shot. He had his 700 243 on his shoulder. She was behind him. He went to squat down and the rifle rotated butt fwd. As he squatted she was doing same and the rifle butt just barely bumped the grpind and went off sending the bullet from her stomach up through top of her head. Dead instantly.
He was fixing to face first degree murder.
Had it not been for someone that knew about the trigger issue that was able to get with the police forensics people he would of been charged.
They took that rifle in the lab and proved the issues. They bounce that rifle at all kids of angles and the only angle it would fire matched the described trajectory with the safety on.
Firing when safety flipped off is not the only danger of these trigger assemblies.
 
Joking aside...

He failed to control the muzzle of his rifle.

She placed herself in a bad spot too.

Gotta watch what you AND the other person do.
 
Wife has a model 7 that had the recalled trigger. Sent it in and had it back in a week or so.

I can't tell any difference in the new trigger pull
 
And not Remington's fault.
I'll say this again, Hookeye, you don't know what you're talking about! I was at my range a couple of years ago with a good friend who bought a Remington 700 in .270 caliber back in the '60's. This was going to be his first attempt in quite a while to shoot this rifle. We watched as he loaded it and then when he closed the bolt the riffle went off and his finger was nowhere near the trigger. This rifle was purchased new and no-one, I mean no-one had ever put any type of tool on it. That trigger was and is a bad design. I tried to get this friend to hook up with a lawyer in the case against Remington as he could have made a bundle but instead he called Remington who immediately sent him shipping instruction to have the rifle sent to them for repair.
 
Wonder what contaminates were in the. trigger.....being it was oiled and stored for years before use.

Did he pull it apart and flush w solvent before use?

Wonder if he did the old WD 40 down the bore and set it upright in a rack LOL

Lots of folks did.
 
Running a patch down the bore and wiping the outside is gun maintenance for some.

After storage a firearm should be inspected and cleaned before use.

Inspected....that means taken apart and things checked.......not just matching barrel stamp to k mart box of ammo.
 
Just talked to old timer that admitted in his early yrs of WD 40 shot down the bbl for protection. Shotgun stored muzzle up. Cold day deer hunting.....his trigger didnt work.
 
Actually Milt1.....your story falls right in line w what ive been saying. My guess is oils gummed/shellacked over time and altered function.

Nobody wants to spend the money to have a gun cleaned and checked after a period of non use. Nope. Many use not recommended products in cleaning/ lubing too.

They may never have had to touch an allen wrench or screwdriver to mess something up.

I recently heard some old bambibslayer talk of oiling his shotgun (overheard in lgs last week).....with you guessed it......WD 40. Said he sprayed it down in good to prevent rust.

He would probably say im full of crap too
 
Wonder what contaminates were in the. trigger.....being it was oiled and stored for years before use.

Did he pull it apart and flush w solvent before use?

Wonder if he did the old WD 40 down the bore and set it upright in a rack LOL

Lots of folks did.
A great deal of folks do only that, or worse, for maintenance.
This isnt new, probably never will be, and should come as no surprise to ANYONE.

Im pretty sure everyone on here takes better care of most of their gear than that, but (and not to be elitist) were all hobbiests at the very least.
I dont have enough fingers for the number of people I know personally who never clean a firearm.

Its amazing ive only ever encountered one Walker failure, but again ANY old 700 that i work on, especially for those finger people, I offer to change to an Xmark.
 
@Hookeye for someone with no axe to grind, you seem to be dead set on defending these triggers. For every first- and second-hand example, you post 3-5 rebuttals blaming tinkering, improper maintenance, and the like. If a gun can't handle being cleaned with gun oil, what good is it? If there is no problem with Remington triggers, why are there so many accounts of AD with the 700, compared to any other rifle out there?
 
Remember .....when you design something to be idiot proof......the world designs a better idiot
 
Irregardless of if or why the Walker trigger is unsafe, Remington agreed to replace all of the potentially dangerous triggers. They did so under a court agreement that they would not be held liable for any future accidents attributed to the trigger. You simply had to register your rifle either by phone or on this web site: http://settlement.repair.remington.com/ Remington would then contact you with instructions on where/how to send your rifle. I think that some gunsmiths were also contracted to do the switch locally. I registered my M700 and my sons M7. Nothing ever happened so I gave them a call.

What I was told that there were 2 active lawsuits and the lawyers appealed the court order until they got their money, so Remington wasn't going to replace any more triggers until the courts ruled on the appeal. I still haven't heard anything from them, but vaguely remember seeing a headline recently saying the court matter was settled.

I got sick of waiting and bought Timneys for both rifles. They are not overly hard to install yourself.
 
I go along with the lawsuit being a crock. The only two times I personally experience this firing problem Bubba had been doing a trigger job. That connector floating does not universally float. I have a drawer full of Walker triggers and none of those connectors "float." One of the rifles in the lawsuit looked like a dug relic from the Civil War. On another forum, this topic got so heated the thread was closed. Further discussions of the Walker trigger were forbidden.

For any information best call Remington. For a time the replacement program was on hold. My experience is that Remington will pay shipping both ways. I went ahead and had the trigger replaced in my 700SAS. The rifle was returned in several weeks. The replacement trigger breaks cleanly at four pounds. That may be too heavy for many. It suits me just fine. I'm not ready to put a $100 aftermarket trigger on my $300.00 rifle. This rifle is a keeper....with the new factory trigger. Like I say, call Remington for the latest correct information.
 
People oiled a gun up (probably w something not recommended)....stored it and didnt clean and check it before use. Thats on them. Not the manufacturer.
 
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