John Ross not delivering paid for JR500

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I was trying to reach more individuals to help resolve this and Cast Boolits has deleted my thread.
You have to think about community culture, and who you're talking to. CastBoolits is as tribal as they come; you've insulted an Elder and you just don't get to do that.

This illustrates one reason why THR is so valuable; to a high degree we respect facts, and we'll hear you out about almost anything (technical, legal, social) if you bring facts.
 
You don’t know what you’re talking about the thread is back up.It was the OPs first post they reviewed it to see if was legit.If every time someone had a problem real or imagined and they would badmouth some one on a forum that site would soon become worthless.All they did was check out the thread.
 
With my and my ffls info omitted but it was there in all the emails. You can see on 6/12 if I haven't already posted it he answered but was in a very loud crowd and couldn't hear and didn't have any clue who I was. Tried to call him on 6/13 as he requested but could not reach him by any means. So hardly counts as contact as nothing was accomplished.




When will this ship?? Attached is ffl even though he sent it on 5/9 and my check cleared on 5/13, Scroll down to see all the messages you have not replied to.

I prefer email but will take calls or texts.





-----Original Message-----
From:
To: jrinvest <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Jun 17, 2019 4:02 pm
Subject: Re: Jr 500 black finish sent check to arrive by 5/9/19

John,


When will this ship???

My FFL:




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---Original Message-----
From:
To: jrinvest <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Jun 13, 2019 7:22 am
Subject: Re: Jr 500 black finish sent check to arrive by 5/9/19

John,


I spoke to you for a second on 6/12. You said it was to loud to hear and to call back this morning 6/13. I tried but no answer, no voicemai.


My ffl sent you his info on 5/9/19 via email. My check cleared on 5/13.


My FFL:

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-----Original Message-----
From:
To: jrinvest <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Jun 3, 2019 4:18 pm
Subject: Re: Jr 500 black finish sent check to arrive by 5/9/19

John,


I would like to have an idea of when the 500 will be delivered. It has been 3 weeks since the check cleared and ffl credentials sent. I have been unable to get a response by emailing, texting or calling you.




-----Original Message-----
From:
To: jrinvest <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, May 28, 2019 2:45 pm
Subject: Re: Jr 500 black finish sent check to arrive by 5/9/19

John,


Any update on the shipping of the black 500? I have tried to call but either does not ring or does not go to voicemail.


You have cashed the check and it has cleared, my ffl has sent you his credential and mailing address.




-----Original Message-----
From:
To: jrinvest <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, May 15, 2019 4:22 pm
Subject: Re: Jr 500 black finish sent check to arrive by 5/9/19

John,


Do you have everything you need on this order? I show check has cleared your bank and my ffl (details below) sent you the requested information on 5/8/19. If you have a chance to give gun a quick one over look before shipping please do.

Please send tracking info and ship date. Any additional information needed feel free to contact me by phone, email or text


thanks,





-----Original Message-----
From:
To: jrinvest <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, May 5, 2019 2:49 pm
Subject: Jr 500 black finish sent check to arrive by 5/9/19

John,


I sent you a check for ($1595) for the JR 500 in the black finish. According to my bank you should receive the check by 5/9/19 (USAA checking).

I will contact my ffl this week and let him know to send you a copy of his license. I have provided his contact information below also.


I thank you for answering my questions on this item. Look forward to shooting it.

I am including my contact info for tracking # and any other questions or info needed. I am available by phone, email or text.


thanks,





My FFL:




-----Original Message-----
From: John Ross <[email protected]>
To:
Sent: Fri, May 3, 2019 7:45 am
Subject: Re: Jr 500

I have both finishes NIB $1495 + $100 next day shipping

Need FFL


John Ross

7600 Clayton Rd.

St. Louis MO 63117


(314)308-8261 Cell any time


I doubt you will wear out a barrel. I have 7300 rounds through one of mine, nowhere near worn out.


JR


-----Original Message-----

>From:

>Sent: May 2, 2019 9:11 PM

>To: [email protected]

>Subject: Jr 500

>

>John,

>

>

>Do you have any of the 5 inch 500s in the black? If not any of the satin finished ones?

>Please let me know the cost, payment methods, shipping details.

>I currently have a 500 3.5 pc model. I do not shoot hot/heavy loads. Mostly 440 gr gc flat nose or hdy 500 xtp. Middle of the road powder loads h110, 1680.

>Any idea how many rounds before barrel needs replacing on jr500?

>I am in montana and would use the gun for fun and also grizzly protection when hunting.

>
 
I was trying to reach more individuals to help resolve this and Cast Boolits has deleted my thread. So I tried to post a new one with these questions but that was denied also. I of course started with the basis for this thread stating just the facts with no name calling or profanity.
No. 1 What proof do you want. Do you want me to post the only email he answered? All the other emails that I sent him that he did not answer? The PM to him on the Highroad that he did not answer? Text messages to him that he did not answer? Copies of the front/back of the check he cashed with his signature on it? His address in St. louis 63117 that I sent the check to?
Fishy not. Why would I not tell the truth here?? All I want is the gun that I paid for.
Let me know what proof you want and stop closing the thread.
I am not name calling, using profanity or any other bad thing. Just stating the facts. Trying to persuade him into doing the right thing and sending gun to ffl as he has payment for over a month and ffl credentials.

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John Ross not delivering paid for JR500
Everyone please take this for what it is worth - this member joined today and with no proof has indicated a well respected member of the firearm community has ripped him off. Looks pretty fishy to me.....

This thread is up on the castboolits site. Looks like they're leaving it open for you.
 
This thread is up on the castboolits site. Looks like they're leaving it open for you.
I finally got that message but every time I post it says going to moderator for further review. I tried posting pics of the check for them and on here in case they come over to view this. I blacked out all account info but for some reason this site won't allow it.
 
Over on cast boolits they are nit picking everything calling scam, fraud etc.
Newest one is FB user I created only to use as a way to play the same video game from ios to android that way it saves all progress, level etc. It is video game username etc. This is no video game board but after being accused of scam/fraud on castboolits...
After many suggestion I reluctantly just used it to post some of this information on JRs FB page. It is no scam, fraud or otherwise.
I don't like FB company policies and want nothing to do with it but it is either that or twitter to play between ios/android seamlessly.

Again I just want the damn gun that I paid for and don't want to go to court, have people arrested etc, etc. And want anyone who is considering purchasing one to see a real life experience of it. I searched posts before trying to purchase one, sure many others have done the same thing.
 
New update: some mod from cast boolits got a hold of JR and said all guns are safe. JR said he will be posting to that forum later tonight and he is in good health. Will keep this updated with any new info.
Best resolution will be gun sent asap and all this stops.
 
New update: some mod from cast boolits got a hold of JR and said all guns are safe. JR said he will be posting to that forum later tonight and he is in good health. Will keep this updated with any new info.
Best resolution will be gun sent asap and all this stops.
Please keep us updated. I am eager to see how this turns out. Good Luck.
 
JR just posted on castboolits. I will refrain from posting it here or agreeing with or refuting any information in it. Will give this a little time to resolve itself before doing anything else.
No malicious smearing of reputations etc, just facts and the truth.
 
I also read the castboolits thread and it sounds like 'Stuff' happened. IMHO If you need the money more than the JR500 then go to the bank, otherwise I would give the guy a break and wait for your merchandise, looks like it might take an extra 6 mos. Personally I would wait, I have waited as long for custom stuff and I don't think that's outrageous. Make sure to open a line of communication with Mr. Ross and keep in touch monthly if not weekly.
 
Sounds like 'Stuff' happened. IMHO If you need the money more than the JR500 then go to the bank, otherwise I would give the guy a break and wait for your merchandise, looks like it might take an extra 6 mos. Personally I would wait, I have waited as long for custom stuff and I don't think that's outrageous. Make sure to open a line of communication with Mr. Ross and keep in touch monthly if not weekly.
These are already built, have been since late 2007 or 2008. I am not an unreasonable person.
 
I could pick the response apart but will take the "high road" for awhile before I give myself a heart attack!
 
There are members here who were paid by merchandise or money in deals made and I got zero while they sell others their merchandise for years. The overextended excuse is lame enough. The selling to others wat you paid for years later is disgusting. Ya learn as you get older. I still don't hound them as you did, like whipping a dead horse.
 
I could pick the response apart but will take the "high road" for awhile before I give myself a heart attack!

Well there is someone saying they're about 1.5 hrs way and hadn't heard about any of what JR was talking about on the news... which certainly should be on the news.

All I can say is this. I didn't like how he came across here just like someone else said in this thread. Same reasons same instance.

Even though youre new and youre accusing right out of the gate (not a typical great way to start) your posts come across a lot better than his, imo. As someone else said earlier, his reply on CB raises more questions than answers; doesnt come across well and doesn't set right, again imo.


Good luck to you.
 
I really hope this works out for you. He claimed to have spotty internet yet he was posting to facebook every couple days during the time period in question would leave me worried as well. It sounds like your not the only one waiting.

The CB guys are a loyal bunch but also seem to have a very high opinion of John Ross so hopefully him wanting to keep his rep intact will motivate him to send your gun.
 
Yea, if you're into premeditated murder. As a working LEO when I read it I was pretty disgusted. I didn't finish the last of it. YMMV!

Dave
I was disgusted also, about the behavior of government agencies in general and the ATF in particular. And although it’s fiction, it was written during a period of unprecedented excess by the Federal Government.

Those killed in a revolution are not murdered. Unless you consider the Founding Fathers murderers.
 
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I have to agree. A custom being built is a process. These revolvers are built and boxed already.

Yes, and one would think that with inventory that old, he would want them out the door as quick as possible. Still, he has the money and it may already be spent. Probably why there is no rush.
 
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