35 Remington lever action info?

And to think, "deerandblackbear" was (almost) one word in the books and catalogs.

One theory is that when Remington introduced the .35 Rem, that was as close as they could get to .33 and .35 Win in their auto and pump. It has certainly outlasted them.

Annoying that it is on its own head diameter. If there is anything more common to make .35 out of, I don't know what.

35 Remington can be made from 308 brass. There is a poster on the castboolits forum named grumpa or something like that that makes it from 308 military brass. The case walls are a little thicker so you have to reduce the load a little but you have much stronger brass. I have been meaning to order brass from him and work up some loads with the Sierra 200gr bullets I have on hand.

Well nevermind on buying the converted brass. I see the man who made it has passed away.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?367928-R-i-p-Grumpa-(matt-overhage)

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?275752-Converting-308-Win-to-35-Remington

Ratshooter said:

Well nevermind on buying the converted brass. I see the man who made it has passed away.

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The process was copied over to the Marlin forums

https://www.marlinowners.com/forum/reloading/130489-forming-35-rem-308-win-cases.html

I had heard of this before, and gave it some serious consideration. Even bought a reloading press with the process in mind: big single stage Lee press. Forming 35 brass from 308 fell by the wayside when I saw even Bass Pro sold new 35 Rem brass in bags of 50.

so is there any ammo that can be converted to 30-30 brass?

Sure, .25-35, .32 Special, .32-40, .38-55.

410 to

[QUOTE="Jim Watson] "Sure, .25-35, .32 Special, .32-40, .38-55.[/QUOTE]

Correct of course, but all those are more expensive in loaded ammunition and empty brass than the .30-30.

Well, he did say "any" not "cheap."
It would be nice if you could make anything out of something cheaper with little labor. Just reading about making .35 Remington out of .308 tired me out.

You can learn more about the 35 Remington and some more energetic loads listed in the articles at this site. If you are a lever gun fan you can spend a lot of time here.

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/Default.htm

Well it seems that real Remington 35 Remington brass is once again available. Maybe Remington will do a run of 200gr bullets too.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/465444/remington-brass

my 35 rem a cut down remington 141

Big fan of 200gr 35 Rem here. Great on all sorts of critters. I wouldn't feel undergunned on anything that walks, swims, crawls or slithers in my neck of the woods.

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my 35 rem a cut down remington 141

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A wonderfully-handling hunting rifle. My neighbor let me borrow his when I was a young buck (hunter), and I loved the feel and the sleek lines. The action was ultra-smooth. Borrowing a phase from a well-known knife wielder..."It will KEEEL!"

The problem with converting brass from one cartridge to another is that the headstamp remains the same, so if someone picks up a loaded round, perhaps after someone accidentally drops it, or after the "converter" passes away, it gets used, someone could get injured. I get really nervous about that hurting someone who didn't deserve it. Think about that, please. Please don't do it to save a few cents, unless you're really desperate. If you do, mark the container well, so nobody gets hurt.

Picher said:

The problem with converting brass from one cartridge to another is that the headstamp remains the same, so if someone picks up a loaded round, perhaps after someone accidentally drops it, or after the "converter" passes away, it gets used, someone could get injured. I get really nervous about that hurting someone who didn't deserve it. Think about that, please. Please don't do it to save a few cents, unless you're really desperate. If you do, mark the container well, so nobody gets hurt.

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Anyone who picks up a converted 308 loaded with a 35 caliber bullet and can't tell its not the correct load shouldn't be shooting. Besides I don't think there is any way in the world to shoehorn a 35 Remington round in a 308 rifle chamber. But anyone who has both and would like to try I would like to know the outcome.

But actually picher makes a good point. If you load or form brass for a different round and the headstamp says something different mark the box of ammo in big bright letters what caliber it really is.

In one of the letters sent to my grandfather by PO Ackley he says what blows up a rifle is not an oversized bullet being fired but a round that doesn't fit the chamber. Like a 308 being fired in a 30-06. Or a 7-08 in a 308, 8mm Mauser in a 30-06. He sent my GF a barrel with a 35 Whelen chamber with a 30 caliber bore and my GF mounted it on a Mauser action and fired it several times with no damage. The 35 caliber bullet swaged down to fit the 30 caliber barrel.

My GF bought a lot of barrels from Ackly to rebarrel the custon guns he built. He also bought Douglas barrels. I have a 7x57 that has one or the other barrels on it but everyone who knew which one is gone now. But that gun is the easiest to load for of all the guns I have worked with. It will shoot 115gr Speer hollow points and all weights in between up to 154gr Hornady bullets in the same group at 100 yards. And I am talking 1.25" groups for all loads combined.

Mushu that chopped rifle is the neatest looking gun I have seen in a while. Can you tell more about it. Like details on the saddle ring and what looks to be a case head on the receiver?

I had my brother cut down the barrel to just over the magazine tube, the saddle ring is from Winchester model 92, the head case on the receiver is standard on Remington 141 pumps the front sight came of a 300 savage 99

here's a close up

Dig the shorty .35!

FWIW Remington did do a special run of 7600 synthetics.........for Grice.
.35 rem, think carbine and rifle versions.

They pop up on GB once in a while, used like new, they fetch around a K.

Wanted the carbine BAD!
Ended up buying a worn 760 ADL instead (for 500).
It had character, was carried a lot but mechanically was in VVG shape.
And when the seller let me shoot it at 25 yards.......3 shots into a .50 cal hole.

I just looked at him and went "SOLD".

Have thought about cutting it back to short though.

Hookeye said:

Shooting 200gr bullets on deer, think the .35 rem pretty sweet.
Would not use it on bigger stuff.

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The 35 Remington has been used on Black Bear, Moose, Elk, probably a few unintended Grizzlies and no telling what else. You just have to mind the range you use it at. On the really big stuff I would stay at 100 yards or less. For a real hunter a hundred yard limit shouldn't be a handicap. But its not an open range rifle round.