Why Glock?

Just simply curious is all. Too thin for my hands anyway (all the poly single stacks are). Thanks

labnoti said:

If we look on an annual basis, new guns are going to outsell most everything else. The first year, the P365 was a blockbuster. Certainly, it outsold the G43 that year and probably the next. The same is true for the Shield 2.0. I haven't analyzed all the available data. But just going buy top-selling handguns of 2018 or 2017 lists, its apparent Glock hasn't had a #1 because they don't really have anything new.

This is what Glock fans think of new Glock models:

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I’ve always have had a hard time watching that guys videos. He just wants to make me go to sleep. He is also not a big fan of Glocks. But he does like his bubbly water.
I did force myself to stay awake and watch the whole video and can say that I was not impressed. I have seen better reviews done on Hi Points.
But for your one video of a guy that doesn’t like the G48, you can find many more that like it.

I do agree that Ruger and S&W make a lot of guns, but if you were to only count the guns that compete in the same market as Glock, I think that you would find that Glock does better.
I also remember seeing S&W M&Ps on sale last year for right at $300. I bet Glock would sell more if they dropped their prices.

Glock is popular, and that’s a fact. I just don’t see why it bothers some people.

GunnyUSMC said:

Glock is popular, and that’s a fact. I just don’t see why it bothers some people.

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I don’t get it either...and for some, it more than just bothers them, it is like they take it personally that anyone can like Glock’s. If you think about it, it’s a lot like how Liberals act when you disagree with them. You can’t have any other opinion but theirs...

GunnyUSMC said:

I’ve always have had a hard time watching that guys videos. He just wants to make me go to sleep. He is also not a big fan of Glocks. But he does like his bubbly water.
I did force myself to stay awake and watch the whole video and can say that I was not impressed. I have seen better reviews done on Hi Points.
But for your one video of a guy that doesn’t like the G48, you can find many more that like it.

I do agree that Ruger and S&W make a lot of guns, but if you were to only count the guns that compete in the same market as Glock, I think that you would find that Glock does better.
I also remember seeing S&W M&Ps on sale last year for right at $300. I bet Glock would sell more if they dropped their prices.

Glock is popular, and that’s a fact. I just don’t see why it bothers some people.

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Glock pretty much makes the same size/category of firearms as S&W, Ruger, Springfield, Walther, CZ, Taurus, Sig, Beretta, etc. They all do compete against each other in the same categories...

I don't think people have problems with Glock or people liking them. IMHO the biggest problem a lot of people have with Glock is the attitudes of some Glock owners... That's were most 8f the hate and distain stems from...

Styx said:

I don't think people have problems with Glock or people liking them. IMHO the biggest problem a lot of people have with Glock is the attitudes of some Glock owners... That's were most 8f the hate and distain stems from...

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Please elaborate what this means...I don’t understand.

And why do people take it personally?

Buzznrose said:

Please elaborate what this means...I don’t understand.

And why do people take it personally?

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Some act like Glock is better and everything else is interior. They have a holier than thou attitude. Also, to be fair, it's been my experience that Glock owners, more so than most other fanboy group, tend to be a little more sensitive to anyone who is critical of Glocks... Goes both ways...

Guys have been arguing the finer points about their personal likes and dislikes since time immemorial. It probably all began with two cavemen arguing which was better, sharp stick or dull stick with sharp rock attached to it. And I'm quite sure in some hazy future setting, there will be guys arguing the virtues of blasters versus lightsabers or something similar. Live and let live, if you prefer one brand or form factor over another it's all good in my book.

These are my personal view on Glock's. These handguns are tough as nails. Long lived and reliable. I'm not a fanboy but have enough respect for the gun to have a G23.4 as a carry handgun. The gun is accurate. I removed the OEM barrel in 357 SIG and reinstalled the 40 caliber barrel. Did this because it was my way of resisting all the 40 caliber hating. Also got a G20 and G21.

Addendum: I cannot recall a malfunction in the G23 after some shooting over the years. My favorite self-loading handgun here is a HK USPC. It's too big to carry.

GunnyUSMC said:

I’ve always have had a hard time watching that guys videos. He just wants to make me go to sleep. He is also not a big fan of Glocks. But he does like his bubbly water.
I did force myself to stay awake and watch the whole video and can say that I was not impressed. I have seen better reviews done on Hi Points.
But for your one video of a guy that doesn’t like the G48, you can find many more that like it.

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I don't think the review was very fair. That guy loves the G43. He's said it's what he carries. He's featured it in numerous videos. He uses a +3 magazine with grip extension on his 43, which basically makes it just like a 43X, just with the magazine joint in a different place on the grip. So why does the 48 suck so bad? I mean, the 43, and 43X are great, but if it's a little longer it sucks? Obviously not. I think his disappointment was not that it sucks, but that it's not really new or exciting, which was also my point in posting it. The 48 is actually great for anyone who likes a 43 or 43X, but doesn't already have one, because it's basically the same thing. But if you already have one, it's basically the same thing. Hence, not a lot of sales. How many people need a 48 if they already have a 43? Compare this to the P365. It was really totally new. It wasn't just a slightly modified P938. A lot of people are going to buy that and at least see how it works out for them. The G48 was kind of a known thing before it came out because of how similar it is to the G43 or G19.

Styx: said:

Further proof that Glocks aren't out selling S&W and Ruger

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Here in the PRC, the most populous state in the U.S., with 12% of the U.S population, a non-LEO can buy an original version of the S&W Shield, an SDVE (9/40) or many of the S&W revolvers, an LC380 Ruger, or most of the Ruger revolvers, or you can buy any Gen 3 Glock semiautomatic. So I’m not going to dispute the fact that S&W and Ruger both sell more revolvers than Glock does!

What will make the G48 really shine is if Shield Arms gets their flush mag that holds 15 rounds off the ground.

The big difference between the G43 and the 43x/48 is that Glock went to a stack and a half magazine. If I can get 15 rounds in my G48 that will be very hard to beat for carry, it’ll essentially be a G19 that is quite a bit slimmer.

And to answer the OP question. Because if one can shoot them well, they are one of the best choices in nearly all other areas: simple, easily maintained, bore axis, parts availability, robust aftermarket support, cheap magazines, multi-platform acceptance of magazines, tough, reliable, good access to used guns through police.

If one cannot shoot a Glock well and has tried there are many other good options. It’s a no brainer in mind why to settle on Glock if it works for someone and it doesn’t preclude one from owning others.

JDR said:

So I’m not going to dispute the fact that S&W and Ruger both sell more revolvers than Glock does!

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that's funny!

murf

Styx said:

Some act like Glock is better and everything else is interior. They have a holier than thou attitude. Also, to be fair, it's been my experience that Glock owners, more so than most other fanboy group, tend to be a little more sensitive to anyone who is critical of Glocks... Goes both ways...

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And since no other group of gun owners exhibits such outlandish attitudes, people hate Glock Fanboys? Okay, makes perfect sense to me!

How dare they be enthusiastic about their plastic guns! As if they had real guns, made of metal...

Surely, they should conduct themselves in a much more humble manner. No 1911/S&W revolver/Beretta 92 owner would dare be a fanboy of their weapons or show pride in their gun of choice. Who do these Glock scoundrels think they are?

Buzznrose said:

And since no other group of gun owners exhibits such outlandish attitudes, people hate Glock Fanboys? Okay, makes perfect sense to me!

How dare they be enthusiastic about their plastic guns! As if they had real guns, made of metal...

Surely, they should conduct themselves in a much more humble manner. No 1911/S&W revolver/Beretta 92 owner would dare be a fanboy of their weapons or show pride in their gun of choice. Who do these Glock scoundrels think they are?

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Yeah, head into a 1911 forum and the "If it ain't a Colt, it's a copy" folk aren't annoying at all, no sir-ee. I never venture into the morass of AR15 forums, but I hear they can be found there too.

Years back HK fan used to be pretty vocal about how superior their favored platform was designed and built "better", but they've been quieter for quite some time.

These days, take note on every "what should I CCW" threads that the 365 pops up even when not listed as an option (just like the Glock used to) in darned near every one across all forums.

Maybe the "game changer" 365 fans will be the new reviled Glock fans in a few years? Who knows? Stay tuned to find out!

Yeah, Glock is just a pipsqueak. Can’t imagine what all those companies are thinking, making all those third party magazines, parts, 80% frames, even completely custom made non-Glock Glocks. Even Ruger fell for it when they made the PCC 9mm Carbine Glock-mag compatible. What were they thinking.

Most often you will find that the people that don't like Glocks have never owned one or have had limited contact with them.
I have also found that some people have strong opinions about things they know very little about.

If you were to ask me what my favorite auto was, hands down the 1911.
My favorite Polymer frame auto, the S&W M&P.
But when it comes down to a duty gun, I'll go with a Glock.

I own all the guns in this photo. I shoot all the guns in this photo. I also have a few more that are not in the photo.
The Glock 22 G3 is the first Glock that I was issued in late 2002. I carried it until I was issued a G22 G4. Last year I turned in my G22 G4 in for a G17 G4 which I still have as my duty gun.
I have also qualified with the G19 RTF and the G45 and have the G45 om my side right now.
I have a G43 that I carry off duty when I want a compact gun. I plan to get a G48 for when I want something between the G19 and G43 for off duty carry.

If your one of those that don't care for Glocks, I'm OK with that. I'm just tired of seeing you post in every topic about Glocks just so that you can tell me that you don't like them.

Buzznrose said:

I don’t get it either...and for some, it more than just bothers them, it is like they take it personally that anyone can like Glock’s. If you think about it, it’s a lot like how Liberals act when you disagree with them. You can’t have any other opinion but theirs...

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So if I'm not allowed the opinion that somehow Glock's use of Browning's tilt barrel short recoil locking system isn't somehow a more reliable design than everyone else's use of that design. Or disputes the 65% market share claim.
And I'm the liberal?

JR24 said:

Yeah, head into a 1911 forum and the "If it ain't a Colt, it's a copy" folk aren't annoying at all, no sir-ee. I never venture into the morass of AR15 forums, but I hear they can be found there too.

Years back HK fan used to be pretty vocal about how superior their favored platform was designed and built "better", but they've been quieter for quite some time.

These days, take note on every "what should I CCW" threads that the 365 pops up even when not listed as an option (just like the Glock used to) in darned near every one across all forums.

Maybe the "game changer" 365 fans will be the new reviled Glock fans in a few years? Who knows? Stay tuned to find out!

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And none of them compare to Glock fans from what I see on just about all of the gun over the years... Has gotten better though...

GunnyUSMC said:

Most often you will find that the people that don't like Glocks have never owned one or have had limited contact with them.

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Oh yeah Ad Hominem
"If you don't like Glocks you're just ignorant"

JDR said:

So I’m not going to dispute the fact that S&W and Ruger both sell more revolvers than Glock does!

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The Glock revolver is a hard sell, I think they cut their losses and let S&W and Ruger have that market.

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The Glock revolver is a hard sell, I think they cut their losses and let S&W and Ruger have that market.
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The sad part is it probably would sell...

Styx said:

The sad part is it probably would sell...

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It would, the glock boys would buy up any thing glock branded. Relabel any gun lube to "glock" and triple the price. and they will buy it by the case.

Styx said:

And none of them compare to Glock fans from what I see on just about all of the gun over the years... Has gotten better though...

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Certainly your opinion. I find the Colt bros more annoying.

I also find the blatant Glock Haters more annoying as well

And you guys talk about "Glock boy's" being fanatics. Look at yourselves, the anti-Glock people are fanatical in their own right. I'm a Glock guy; just like I'm a CZ guy, or a Ruger guy and posted it as some levity, but you'll didn't pass up on some contempt for Glock users.

Love them or hate them, Glocks will be around for a long time, I choose to be an equal opportunity gun owner.