Thought from the other side of the pawn counter

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The problem is that there is no universal language when it comes to haggling. Everybody wants special treatment, some think they can get a lower price by disparaging the merchandise, and some are offended when their version of how things should work doesn't pan out. It is a process, like an auction, that is intended to tease out the willing seller/willing buyer threshold. Many in our day and age don't have time for it, and that's understandable. The system has developed over many generations, however, and isn't likely to change quickly.

The universal language is money. Pop used to haggle in Spanish, Vietnamese, Korean, English, and couple of times in German. He only spoke English. Disparaging the merchandise is just one of many tactics that may be employed. People acting butthurt or otherwise insulted by offers is part of the process as well. So are claims of better prices down the street at the competition, not having enough money for the goods, etc. etc. etc. It really is a game, even an art. Some people just aren't good at it.
 
I work a lot of gun shows with a buddy that owns a Pawn and Gun Shop. There is a true art to pricing Guns especially at a show. When People walk into a Pawn Shop or a Gun Show, they have the mind set that anything they want can be bought cheaper than the marked price. (Everyone watches American Pickers). The art is to price Guns or anything else for that matter at a price that leaves you a little haggle room but not so high that people won't stop and look. We worked a show one time and decided to mark every gun at the rock bottom price we could take. On new guns we were $25-100 cheaper than anyone else in the show and we actually lost some customers because we wouldn't negotiate. For some reason there is something mental that people feel like they are getting a better deal when they beat you down. They can't see the forest for the trees!
 
In my semi local area there are a bunch of pawn shops that sell guns. Out of the dozen or so pawn shops I only buy from a few of them. I did buy from a couple of others, but one went out of business, another had staff that went to greener grass and hot new people that are not customer friendly. Another pawn shop I bought a lot of stuff from has a son that was in the drug trade and beat the crap out of a young girl (17 or 18 years old) with a few of his accomplicesn placed her on a plastis bag, took her up.in the mountains and they shot her & killed her then buryed her. Once I found out I quit going there.

Most of these pawn shops buy a lot of junk and want top dollar for what they have.
But at some of them they do get decent stuff in and price the items at a decent price and will generally drop the ptice some & no tax out the door.

Every couple of years one of the pawn shops will have a 50% off everything in the store on Memorial Weekend.
I get there early on Saturday morning and buy stuff. The last one I went to two years ago I picked ip a nice old Remington model 141 in 32 Remington. $350 price tag, I got it for $175 cash out the door.
I did fing several boxes of old 32 Remington ammo, I need to buy a set of dies for this caliber.

At another pawn shop I bought a old Remington 22lr single-shot model 10 bolt action. They wanted $999 for it. I bought it for $350 out the door, no tax.
I took it to the farm and shot a pigeon with it and advertised it on Rimfire Central for $750 and sold it the next day.

I have well over a hundred firearms in my collection and probably 80% of them I bought at pawn shops at decent prices.

I did a dove release at a funeral a voue of years ago. I got paid $300. I stopped by a pawn shop and he saod upon entering " if you see something you liken make an offer"

Well.I liked the old S&W model 37 Airweight they had for $425.
I offer $250 for it.He came back with $275.
I came back with $275 out the door. Well I still have it.
Then I found a nice S&W model 36 at a gun show, the guy wanted $450 for it. I picked it up for $385.

There are deals out there if you know the right people at some of the pawn shops and have the cash.

I have a aquaintance at the gun library at the local.Cabelas. A couple of weeks ago I stopped by there to.pick.up a Lyman ammo checker ans a plastic ammo box for 223.
On the used gun rack they had a nice Ruger model 77 in 223. Stainless with tje paddle boat stock for $379.99.
My friend gave me $30 off on that gun. $349.99 & sales tax. I took it out shooting the next day and sighted it in and love it.

There are deals out theren but you need to be at the right place at the rigjt time and have the cash to make it happen
 
I concur that Pawnbrokers are one of the very best places to gun shop.

Having worked at one before can give you an edge in negotiating......which you must do. Marked MSRP prices don’t even bother me. It’s all a game up have to know how to play.

If you do not have an above average knowledge about guns then Pawn shopping for them may be a disadvantage.
Yup I learned a long time ago that it’s pretty much impossible to hurt a pawn mans feeling with a “low ball” on anything in the store. He may just have it high hoping to score big with an idiot. More times than not I can get something I really didn’t need for a price that’s too good to pass up. What makes me mad is walking in a pawn shop to shop the floor and not being given the time a day because folks are busy taking payment. I get that loans are their main business, but come on. Mom and pop shops are the best.

A month or so ago I walked into a pawn shop and saw a chainsaw I liked. (I do firewood as a weekend business and I collect quality built and still usable chainsaws of all makes and ages in the 60cc and above size range) it was a saw that’s $700 new, in good shape marked $250, fired right up and sounded good. I though man I’d leave with it for $200, really don’t need it for $250. So I looked the store over and on my way out offered $200 and left with a nice chainsaw to add to my collection. It had a stihl “farm boss” bar on it and I think the guy May have thought it was a homeowner saw and not looked up that it was actually a larger pro saw. And it was paid for the first Saturday I ran it!
 
In my semi local area there are a bunch of pawn shops that sell guns. Out of the dozen or so pawn shops I only buy from a few of them. I did buy from a couple of others, but one went out of business, another had staff that went to greener grass and hot new people that are not customer friendly. Another pawn shop I bought a lot of stuff from has a son that was in the drug trade and beat the crap out of a young girl (17 or 18 years old) with a few of his accomplicesn placed her on a plastis bag, took her up.in the mountains and they shot her & killed her then buryed her. Once I found out I quit going there.

Not sure where you live but in Fla you can't be a pawn shop owner or employee if convicted of a felony, whether the shop sells guns or not.
 
Their son didn't work at the pawn shop. They used profits from their pawn shop for his appeal.
They should of either shot the little SOB, hung him or stick a broom stick up his back end that it came out threw his mouth.

I will never step in that pawn shop ever again.
 
You see, that is where the art of the haggle comes into play. I grew up working in the pawn business here in Texas. Generally speaking, you don't mark merchandise with the $ amount that you expect to get for a product, but with the $ amount you hope to get for a product. If FlSwampRat marked his used Glocks with a $350 price tag, then he would not be getting $350 for them, but something less. It is something of a game.

When I first got in the pawn industry in the mid 80's there was no internet for price checking. Along with that, obviously, there were no online selling sites. There were no smart phones to pull up the pricing on a particular item. This allowed pawnshops to have a really big price tag on something with tons of room to haggle. What happened? The ceiling got lower, people can price check an item and if your asking is way above that or even just above the new price and you're selling a used one, the person isn't even going to ask further. The floor got higher because you're having to pay more for an item than "back in the day" for the same reason. Most customers understand this.
If you want to know what, in your Local Pawn Shop (LPS?) you will get the best deal on, look for things there are a plethora of. If a shop has one of something you'll not get a better deal (% off, i.e. discount) than if they have 6 of the same thing. They'll want to move the overstocked items more than the singles.
Sometimes we'll get a person in who sees a $199 price tag on something and will auto offer $100. This is in store, on selling sites like Offerup, Letgo, etc. all the time. I thank them for the offer and try to make a reasonable counter offer. If I can see the road is going nowhere I'll thank them for coming in and ask if there is something else I can do for them.

Part of the reason I am not in the pawn business is that I don't enjoy that game. Somebody comes in the store proclaiming they have money burning a hole in their pocket and they want to be a deer rifle we have to sell, right now, and they ask, "What's the bottom dollar we'll take for it?" As a pawnbroker, if you tell them any price that is lower than the list price, that automatically becomes the new starting point from which they want to argue down. So you have a used deer rifle for list for $500 and you tell the guy that your bottom dollar is $435 plus tax, out the door, the customer is going to counter offer you $400 or less, despite the fact you already listed the "bottom dollar" you would take. Like I said, it is a game. The point is, the list price is often just the starting place for the game that is going to ensue...

I don't price crazy high, I price reasonable prices, show where the same item sold on an online selling site for what I'm asking and point out that my $199 item above sold for $180 plus shipping online I just ask them why I wouldn't just list it online and get more than they are offering. I'm here to do reasonable business, not run laps with unreasonable people. We sell many items at tag price because I price it reasonably. I hear horror stories about other stores but I figure at least half of that is colored by the person's viewpoint. I don't knock other stores, they have their pricing and ways of doing things we have ours.
One of the reasons I clean everything coming out of the back room for sale is to remove, as much as possible, reasons to knock my merch's value.
One reason to pay a bit more at a LPS or LGS is that the few extra dollars is an investment in having a place to go, talk to someone who is knowledgeable about the item (Who costs the owner more to employ than some cheaper and less knowledgeable person) and get immediate help and advice. When you shop in a locally owned store, regardless of what they are selling, you're buying more than just the piece of merchandise, you're getting the knowledge and customer service along with it. No nothing salesman who is grumpy? You're not getting what you're paying for and my advice is to shop elsewhere.
 
I've bought about 90% of the guns I own and have owned at pawn shops; they give little
for their guns, and I've picked up some really nice weapons for A LOT less than current
Blue Book values. I just picked up a 99% Maverick 88 Security 12 gauge 20" (7 + 1) with
a "Raptor" grip and a really nice hard carry case for $150. I put a 14 round bandolier,
tactical sling, - it's now my "trunk gun".

I prefer them "dirty" because that gives me an advantage when haggling the price, and
I think pawn shops are the best place to buy used guns.
 
Dropped into a few out of boredom here and there, never did more than giggle at the prices. Favorite was a heavily worn store brand 22lr single shot bolt action for $180
 
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