327 fed mag heavy cast data

I've used 10.5 gr AA9 under my Arsenal 133 gr Keith.

I’ve used the Hodgdon, Alliant, and Accurate data for the 115gr Speer GoldDot as a starting point.
Works for me...
you could also reduce.30Carbine data by 20%, except with H110/296.
Or start with .32/20 data, and work up.
There really is nothing new under the sun...

I have a nice 123gr hp bullet mold from NOE:http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?cPath=31_277&products_id=1278

It's designed for the 7.62x39, but it works well for the 327. It produces a .314 bullet with a great hollow point; and the average weight is 120gr. I use Hodgdon's CFE pistol with a max of 6.4 grains or 11 grains of AA #9 out of the 327 LCR. Velocities are in the mid 1100s. The CFE is more stable. I don't use a gas checks, and the .314 diameter works well with my LCR. After various attempts, I've found the right hardness in my casting alloy, and the bullets expand and penetrate well. I actually use this for my self defense load. I think the 327 fed is best with a 120 grain. I have not been able to find the 115gr gold dots, and I don't like the 100gr XTPs. But the little LCR really kicks with full loads of the 120gr grain.

I don't understand why folks feel the need to shoot heavy for caliber bullets? There is always a trade off you gain some bullet weight but lose velocity. There is no free lunch.
Yes, I have been loading 327 Fed since it first came around. A 115 gr out of a 2.25" snub is pretty wicked round.(over 1200 fps) I have data (on paper) somewhere but would take to long to find it. Experimented with a lot of lead bullets.

But then I don't carry a 7" or 5" gun.

If you want "bear" protection use a different caliber

BB is "boutique ammo"

https://loaddata.com/articles/PDF/LD-13 Pearce LR1.pdf

vincyr said:

My main interest in that bullet/load is that it has proven itself on smallish deer and hogs(not intending to hunt deer with it, but it's nice to know it could if the opportunity presented itself), an a hard-cast Keith bullet is supposedly not too destructive on rabbit sized game(no experience there, but a lot of people claim it). Black bear are becoming a more common presence in this area, and while toting something with a bit more umph than a 22lr is reassuring, I've found that situational awareness and a bit of knowledge of bear behavior is a better way to avoid confrontation.

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Oh, OK a caliber for Bear thread Just make sure you get perfect shot placement in the head.

"This 130gr., hard cast, 327 Federal load is the direct result of customer-request for such a load. It is designed primarily as an 'outdoor' load as it penetrates deeply and does not expand. It will perforate a large bear's skull and will also serve well for any application that requires very deep penetration. This load utilizes flash suppressed powder, so the shooter will not be blinded by his own gunfire should he need to fire in low light situations."

Here is a 125 gr bullets and load data from MD Smith. I don't know what bullet was used, I know nothing about Accurate 5744 powder
Use at your own risk.

https://rimrockbullets.com/xcart/-32-keith-swc-125-gr-per-500.html

http://www.reloadammo.com/327fed-mag.htm

Talking about "nothing new under the sun",

I have been trying to find data for a .310 Cadet, ~.32 cal, lead heeled120 gr bullet @ ~1450 fps.

The case is very similar to the 32 H&R mag. I am making cases out of 32-20 and 7.62 x 38 Nagant brass.

25" long barrel, and a strong Martini action, so that will skew powder requirements slightly, but I am looking forward to trying out the 327 mag recipes!

Vincyr: Love the .327 Fed mag. Was late to the party but caught up quick. Since your primary question was if there was any data out there for heavy loads in Keith style bullets I'll start there first. Couple of links have already been posted above with good info.

This issue of Handloader is invaluable if you're into the caliber. Just a ton of good info across the bullet weight spectrum for the .327



Specifically as it relates to your question about heavy lead bullets here's the factory data:



And info for what you're trying to replicate:



I walked into a little non-franchise sporting goods store in a small SW Wyoming ranching town during the height of the Obama years and all the 'popular' calibers were sold out. But there, at the end of the shelf were 6 boxes of these unicorn tears somewhat covered in a fine layer of dust. I dropped the money right there and carried them out. Couldn't stop grinning all 260 miles home. Still have 1,000.





My run-of-the-mil daily shooters in .327



Looking at some of my chrono'd data of those 120 grainers above I'm able to get 1355 FPS out of a 5.5. inch Single Seven using AA#9 with CCI 500 primers. That's with powder at the far end of the case. My comment next to data is: all extracted easily. Primers looked great ..remember that primers are only part of the equation and me saying they looked great is subjective to a point. Lastly ,23 degrees while shooting.

I replicated this data almost exactly when shooting the same ammo out of a GP100 .327 during the same day/same temps.

Hope this helps... Frulk

vincyr said:

Well, I finally found some Power Pistol at a gun show. Apparently, nobody locally carries the powders that it calls for. Best group was 4 shots in 3" (there was a flyer, chalked up to a horsefly with impeccable timing) at 25yds(5.8gr charge, should be a tad over 1200 fps). Practice will probably tighten that up.

One thing that confused me was the 6gr charge. Higher and lower charges were fine, but the 6gr load was almost like shooting blackpowder. Big plume of smoke and a noticeable fireball. Left soot on the hood of my car too. Any thoughts?

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Move your car?

Frulk said:

Vincyr: Love the .327 Fed mag. Was late to the party but caught up quick. Since your primary question was if there was any data out there for heavy loads in Keith style bullets I'll start there first. Couple of links have already been posted above with good info.

This issue of Handloader is invaluable if you're into the caliber. Just a ton of good info across the bullet weight spectrum for the .327

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Specifically as it relates to your question about heavy lead bullets here's the factory data:

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And info for what you're trying to replicate:

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I walked into a little non-franchise sporting goods store in a small SW Wyoming ranching town during the height of the Obama years and all the 'popular' calibers were sold out. But there, at the end of the shelf were 6 boxes of these unicorn tears somewhat covered in a fine layer of dust. I dropped the money right there and carried them out. Couldn't stop grinning all 260 miles home. Still have 1,000.

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My run-of-the-mil daily shooters in .327

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Looking at some of my chrono'd data of those 120 grainers above I'm able to get 1355 FPS out of a 5.5. inch Single Seven using AA#9 with CCI 500 primers. That's with powder at the far end of the case. My comment next to data is: all extracted easily. Primers looked great ..remember that primers are only part of the equation and me saying they looked great is subjective to a point. Lastly ,23 degrees while shooting.

I replicated this data almost exactly when shooting the same ammo out of a GP100 .327 during the same day/same temps.

Hope this helps... Frulk

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I already posted that but without the nifty pictures.

Reading up on Power Pistol it has a rep for significant flash and soot. I’ve never used it myself so no real world practical usage reference point.

Power pistol has a lot of Nitro in it and produces a big flash, loud report but never seen it produce "soot"??
It burns hot with a grayish mark on the brass

I seriously "doubt" that a .2 grain difference with PP would make any difference as to "soot and/or accuracy" especially with a sample of only 5 rounds shot. 5.9 to 6.0 gr seems to be the higher range of the only published (in the article) data.

What kind of crimp heavy light etc etc.

blanket over the hood

murf

Smoke and soot? I use a lot of Power Pistol and I've never seen smoke or soot out of any load. That is really strange.