Springfield XDS "action" question

The XD/XDS line is striker fired, neither single nor double action.

The striker is partially cocked as the slide goes into battery, but not fully. Pulling the trigger pushes the striker the rest of the way back, unblocks it, and drops it.

The XD-E is double/single.

edwardware said:

The XD/XDS line is striker fired, neither single nor double action.

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tercel89 wrote,
The strikers are fully cocked. So the XDS's are partially cocked ?

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Whether the striker is fully or partially cocked is really immaterial. The thing that keeps the gun from firing accidentally is the firing pin block. I don't think there are any striker fired guns that have a less than 50% "cocked" status when the slide is racked. Even partially cocked strikers have enough energy to ignite a primer.

edwardware said:

The XD/XDS line is striker fired, neither single nor double action.

The striker is partially cocked as the slide goes into battery, but not fully. Pulling the trigger pushes the striker the rest of the way back, unblocks it, and drops it.

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This is incorrect. Unlike a Glock, an XD/XD Mod 2 striker if fully cocked once the slide is in battery. The pre-travel in the trigger is there only to raise/disengage the striker block. I have no direct experience with the XDs so I can't say for sure but I believe it uses a very similar fire control to the XD/XD Mod 2 from a quick look at an exploded view.

mcb said:

This is incorrect. Unlike a Glock, an XD/XD Mod 2 striker is fully cocked once the slide is in battery.

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I'm sitting here at the dinner table with the slide plate off my XDS9, and the trigger pull runs the last 0.150"ish of striker cocking. I'm very surprised to hear that the full sizes work differently.

If you have inclination, remove the slide plate, ease the slide home, and look to see how much cocking the trigger does.

edwardware said:

I'm sitting here at the dinner table with the slide plate off my XDS9, and the trigger pull runs the last 0.150"ish of striker cocking. I'm very surprised to hear that the full sizes work differently.

If you have inclination, remove the slide plate, ease the slide home, and look to see how much cocking the trigger does.

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I currently own three and have owned as many as four at one time of original XD line of pistols. The striker is fully cocked once the slide is in battery. The sear is on a pivot pin and can't possibly move the striker rearwards. Trigger pull raises/disengages the striker block and causes the sear engagement surface to rotate down releasing the striker.

I own an XDs in .45acp and an XD Mod 2 in 45 acp. The XD mod 2 is undoubedly the smoother, crisper some what lighter trigger. Both have what I consider to be quite good, better than the average striker fired gun, triggers. Neither have what I consider to be target triggers, aka worked over 1911 trigger. For their function neither should have "target" triggers. As for as how far each trigger moves the striker before releasing it; I do not know, never really thought about it and never found it relivant.

What is the heart of your question? The differences in how each trigger feels? Just curosity about the internal function? Some worry about the inherient safety of each trigger?

Both are good, time tested, safe, reliable triggers. For a range gun the crisper trigger and wider more comfortable grip of the XD mod 2 makes it a much nicer shooter. For a carry gun the slimmer profile and lighter weight of the XDs is much nicer to carry IMHO.

Put a Powder River trigger on your XD,XDS and you'll have a much better trigger!

Bo said:

Put a Powder River trigger on your XD,XDS and you'll have a much better trigger!

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Yes, my XD-40 has had the sear, striker safety lever, and trigger bar all replaced with aftermarket parts. I have very little pre-travel (just enough to disengage the striker block), a very clean break, and no over travel. A properly tuned up XD trigger can have nearly as nice a feel as a 1911 trigger. One of the advantages of the fully cocked striker allows.

That said a little surfing over at XDTalk.com (have not been on that forum much in several years) seems to indicate that the newer XDs does indeed have a Glock like partial cocked striker fire control unlike the XD/XD-Mod2/XDm line of pistols that use fully cocked strikers.

Not to get off topic but a Beretta Nano is striker fired and is held at or near 50%. The “Double Action” trigger comes from the fact that the sear has to rotate rearward until it clears from the striker.

I had an xds and I’m almost positive when cocked the striker is held full rearward and pulling the trigger just dropped the sear off the striker.