.308 Norma
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I guess the moral of the story is sometimes they travel a long way sometimes they drop in their tracks and sometimes both can happen at the same time.
I guess the moral of the story is sometimes they travel a long way sometimes they drop in their tracks and sometimes both can happen at the same time.
Shot placement is the primary consideration. A .223 55 grain soft point bullet in the heart/lung area of a deer trumps a 180 grain bullet in the guts from a .300 Win Mag.
Since 2000 the vast majority of my deer (and wild hogs) were taken with muzzleloaders. About 40 percent of those deer bang flopped. A couple bang flops were shots in the heart/lung area. Heart/lung shots usually result in deer running up to 200 yards.
In about 2012 Fort Sill changed the first week of their muzzleloader season to conventional iron sighted muzzleloaders only firing conical bullets or patched round balls. Since then i've taken 12-15 deer on and off Fort Sill using .50 and .54 caliber muzzleloaders firing patched round balls. Those balls are as effective as 150-180 grain bullets fired from a .30-06 rifle
Last fall i killed eight deer; one with a .308 Winchester: The remainder with muzzleloaders, including three using patched round balls. The deer shot with the .308 bang flopped. One deer shot with an inline .50 caliber muzzleloader using the 250 grain SST bullet bang flopped: High just behind the shoulder shot. Two deer shot high in the shoulder with patched round balls also bang flopped.
Unlike high velocity bullets, round balls don't spoil meat on high shoulder shots.
This buck never kicked:
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This is a largely academic query and HIGHLY SUBJECTIVE I know. Just curious about anecdotal experiences and not scientific explanations where the hunter made a double lung hit (not spine, neck, or head shot). If the double lung hit got both shoulders it. An give the impression of a DRT but usually there will be flopping if death is not quick. I’m talking about a single shot, a crumpled animal, and no more movement.
You aren't the first hunter I have heard this statement from. Personally, I like an exit wound for 2 reasons: 1- I think the more damage the better, and besides there is no reliable way to predict the bullet just stopping under the skin on the far side. 2- if the critter doesn't just fall over like I want it to, LOTS of blood will come out of that big exit hole, which makes following that trail much easier.Also, the bullet should expend all of it's energy inside the animal and not make an exit hole. The perfect situation is for the bullet to end up under the skin on the far side of the animal.
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sow got a drt nap this morning
round thru the forhead at 20yds
Thanks! It was .....snot....a hard hunt......buwahahahahGreat looking hog ,short snot & all ; )
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