Steveo_1704
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I picked up a TCP for $100 last year, I also use a Desantis pocket holster, works quite well in a pocket.
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I picked up a TCP for $100 last year, I also use a Desantis pocket holster, works quite well in a pocket.
FLNT4EVR
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My favorite pocket gun is my Sig p 238 if i feel i need more I carry my LCR 357.
Mr. Tettnanger
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98s1lightning
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Beretta PICO. Always room to take it with you no matter what your wearing.
Any issues Beretta backs it, they paid for mine to be returned, fixed, and back to me in LESS THAN A WEEK after I opened it brand new in the box. Gave me issues but now it's 100%!!!! I'm so happy and impressed with Beretta!
You can't beat a paddle type mag release on a semiauto, sit on it, do whatever body motions you want, the mag will never pop out accidentally. I won't own and autoloader with a push button mag release.
Any issues Beretta backs it, they paid for mine to be returned, fixed, and back to me in LESS THAN A WEEK after I opened it brand new in the box. Gave me issues but now it's 100%!!!! I'm so happy and impressed with Beretta!
You can't beat a paddle type mag release on a semiauto, sit on it, do whatever body motions you want, the mag will never pop out accidentally. I won't own and autoloader with a push button mag release.
p365 all the way, here is my p365 under my m11A1. It is remarkably small, still has some heft (20 oz) and you can always get inexpensive downloaded 9mm if recoil is a poblem. You can also get 12 and 15 rd mags.
I ordered a Vedder Kydex pocket holster today:
https://www.vedderholsters.com/pocket-locker/
I ordered a Vedder Kydex pocket holster today:
https://www.vedderholsters.com/pocket-locker/
Revolver: Ruger LCR in .327 magnum. Load .32 H&R magnum or .32 S&W to reduce recoil.
Semi-auto: Kahr CW380 with extended magazine or CT380. Load anything with a Hornady XTP bullet or Federal HydraShok.
Active Self Protection video about pocket holsters:
Semi-auto: Kahr CW380 with extended magazine or CT380. Load anything with a Hornady XTP bullet or Federal HydraShok.
Active Self Protection video about pocket holsters:
Thibaut
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WIth the new grips, it is now good-looking all over. James Bond would have for sure carried the one with the fold-up configuration.
No matter where I go, a little NAA revolver tags along. I just bought a Black Widow and put on some small laminate grips like you find on the other .22 mags (LOVE yours btw).
I like the barrel length and the sights. I actually am more accurate with it than a snub nose .22 j frame size gun. Slow to fire, slow to reload, but it's a constant companion when a J frame 38 is impractical.
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"I have an LCP, a LCR and an LC9s. I also have had a couple 442's, among others. I find that I carry the LCR the most."
Similarly, I have an LCPII, an LCR (38 spcl), multiple small 9mm's, and a 642.
I carry the LCR the most, in the pocket of cargo shorts. Its DA trigger is better than my 642, and it feels like it's probably a few ounces lighter. I prefer revolvers to semiautos.
If the LCR isn't easy to carry due to clothing/weather, I normally carry my LCPII. I can carry it in the breast pocket of a flannel outer shirt, or pretty much anywhere else. I also own or have owned a P32, P3AT, regular LPC, and Pico. I definitely prefer the LCPII. Its trigger is excellent, its slide holds open when it's empty, and I like the sights.
Similarly, I have an LCPII, an LCR (38 spcl), multiple small 9mm's, and a 642.
I carry the LCR the most, in the pocket of cargo shorts. Its DA trigger is better than my 642, and it feels like it's probably a few ounces lighter. I prefer revolvers to semiautos.
If the LCR isn't easy to carry due to clothing/weather, I normally carry my LCPII. I can carry it in the breast pocket of a flannel outer shirt, or pretty much anywhere else. I also own or have owned a P32, P3AT, regular LPC, and Pico. I definitely prefer the LCPII. Its trigger is excellent, its slide holds open when it's empty, and I like the sights.
dickydalton
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My old 2011 LCP has a Sweet Pea trigger, Galloway springs and SS guide rod and Magguts magazine modification for 7 rounds. So I have 8 rounds and 5 1/2 Lb trigger pull. It beats my son's LCPII every day!
Hondo 60
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i got a phoenix 22lr if your in the woods for a walk you can also plink at pop cans when on that walkboard it never jams
I've got a Phoenix too.
I really like it.
As saiga308said, it just doesn't jam.
As for the 2 guns the OP mentioned...
I usually carry a Ruger LCP, or a S&W Model 38 in an ankle holster
442 is way too bulky to be a pocket gun for me. The LCP is a great size and mine has been perfectly reliable. If you want a bit more umph I am very pleased with my DB9. It is a little heavier and bulkier than the LCP but much better than a 442. To pocket carry the DB9 I do need a bit looser fitting pants. My DB9 is my most punishing gun but that is just due to its small size an weight vs power which is also why Iike carrying it. I have never considered the LCP to be a punishing gun... but everyone is different. Oh yeah, my DB9 has also been 100% reliable from day one.
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BlueHeelerFl
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I currently own a Pico and it does have some snap to it, but it's not that bad. I used to own a S&W 340PD and that had a lot more kick even with standard pressure 38's. I can put more rounds though the Pico during a practice session than I ever could with the 340
Lots of great guns here. I believe in having the largest caliber possible that can easily be concealed. I have been carrying a KelTec PF9 in 9mm since they came out. I carry it in a Galco Pocket holster. I have about 500 rounds through this gun. Because of its size it’s not fun to shoot, but it is very accurate. It has never malfunctioned.
I pocket carry either a G27 .40 (9+1rds) or a SP101 wiley clapp (5rds). I've had my share of small guns, LCP/LCPII, CW380, G42, G43, S&W 642 and all that, but of the truly little guns the easiest to shoot was the G42 .380, it's a little bigger than the LCP series but it's infinitely more shootable as it has usable sights and a good trigger, can't say that about most other tiny 380's. To me, if you're carrying around a J-frame sized gun you can just as easily carry around a G26/G27, which most don't consider to be pocket guns, but I have no issues with it although I do typically wear cargo shorts/pants, so it might not work that well with jeans or dress attire, but I never wear those.
It's always a trade off I guess because usually really small guns aren't that easy to shoot but where they shine is their weight, or their lack thereof. However there are some that are small and shoot well, like the G42 I mentioned above. The LCP conceals better but there's a night and day difference between how well the G42 shoots vs. the LCP. My SP101 is definitely heavier than airweight J-frames but again, shooting it is not an issue, even 357's aren't bad (loud though!) whereas the light J-frames get snappy even with 38 special. So I suppose I'd rather carry around a little more bulk and get a good shooting gun than something really light that just doesn't shoot well. 'You should definitely train with what you actually carry, so it helps to have small, easily shootable carry guns that you can train with, and those usually aren't the smallest and lightest of the bunch.
It's always a trade off I guess because usually really small guns aren't that easy to shoot but where they shine is their weight, or their lack thereof. However there are some that are small and shoot well, like the G42 I mentioned above. The LCP conceals better but there's a night and day difference between how well the G42 shoots vs. the LCP. My SP101 is definitely heavier than airweight J-frames but again, shooting it is not an issue, even 357's aren't bad (loud though!) whereas the light J-frames get snappy even with 38 special. So I suppose I'd rather carry around a little more bulk and get a good shooting gun than something really light that just doesn't shoot well. 'You should definitely train with what you actually carry, so it helps to have small, easily shootable carry guns that you can train with, and those usually aren't the smallest and lightest of the bunch.
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steven58
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It depends on the pocket. Outerwear pockets ( coat, jacket, down or fleece vest and leather CCW vest) comfortably hold my Kimber K6s. Pants pockets get this S&W 638.If you can, get both. They both have pros and cons that have already been mentioned.
The J frame shoots more more powerful ammo, especially if you get one in 357 mag. It can be reliably shot through a pocket if need be. No magazines to be lost or accidentally released in a critical encounter. In the interest of full disclosure I have shot J frames but never owned one. Ditto the LCR. I do prefer shooting the LCR over the J frame.
On the other hand, the LCP is one of the most concealable autos out there. You get 6+1 and they are easy to reload and spare mags are easy to carry. I have owned and occasionally carried an LCP for over 5 yrs. Hogue makes a rubber grip that easily pins into the frame and IMO that makes huge difference in recoil. The LCP comes with 1 magazine. PIerce grip sells finger extensions in a 2 pack. My LCP setup includes the aforementioned hogue grip and 2 spare magazines with the pierce extensions. The make 10 round magazines for them but I personally feel no need for that. I did buy a lasermax red laser for my lcp that is rusting away in a drawer some place. I never could get it hold zero and it kept getting turned on in my pocket holster killing the battery. FWIW I owned the Bersa thunder, the Glock 42 and LCP. I sold off the Bersa and G42. They both are easier to hold and shoot than the LCP but for their size they became redundant when I acquired the G43. The lcp fits places the G43 will not which justifies keeping it for me.
Not sure why some one keeps posting about the HP22 but since I have owned one for over a decade I'm going to chime in with my opinion of those ever though it seems a bit off topic. You can pick them new for around 125. I think they are nice little plinkers for the price but they are NOT and never were intended to be for personal defense. They are not rated for High velocity ammo. They show their California left coast roots by incorporating a magazine disconnect, frame safety AND a hammer block safety. Mine starts jamming a lot if I get too lazy to clean it every couple 100 rounds or so if I remember correctly. They used to offer wood grips on their website for them but apparently that is no longer available. ( too bad ) I remember when I bought the gun I asked the dealer if I bought the longer barrel if that would make a big difference. I was a bit surprised when he told me "Not for that gun" I figured if the dealer was giving me advise that resulted in me spending less $ in his shop it was advice worth taking for sure.
Back to the subject at hand. My experience is that when you are having a tough time deciding between this gun or that gun it means you secretly want both. Both options you are considering are respectable choices for close range personal defense. If its something that matters to you, the J frame will probably hold its value better as the years go bye.
Enjoy you new gun and make sure to come back and tell us what you ended up with.
The J frame shoots more more powerful ammo, especially if you get one in 357 mag. It can be reliably shot through a pocket if need be. No magazines to be lost or accidentally released in a critical encounter. In the interest of full disclosure I have shot J frames but never owned one. Ditto the LCR. I do prefer shooting the LCR over the J frame.
On the other hand, the LCP is one of the most concealable autos out there. You get 6+1 and they are easy to reload and spare mags are easy to carry. I have owned and occasionally carried an LCP for over 5 yrs. Hogue makes a rubber grip that easily pins into the frame and IMO that makes huge difference in recoil. The LCP comes with 1 magazine. PIerce grip sells finger extensions in a 2 pack. My LCP setup includes the aforementioned hogue grip and 2 spare magazines with the pierce extensions. The make 10 round magazines for them but I personally feel no need for that. I did buy a lasermax red laser for my lcp that is rusting away in a drawer some place. I never could get it hold zero and it kept getting turned on in my pocket holster killing the battery. FWIW I owned the Bersa thunder, the Glock 42 and LCP. I sold off the Bersa and G42. They both are easier to hold and shoot than the LCP but for their size they became redundant when I acquired the G43. The lcp fits places the G43 will not which justifies keeping it for me.
Not sure why some one keeps posting about the HP22 but since I have owned one for over a decade I'm going to chime in with my opinion of those ever though it seems a bit off topic. You can pick them new for around 125. I think they are nice little plinkers for the price but they are NOT and never were intended to be for personal defense. They are not rated for High velocity ammo. They show their California left coast roots by incorporating a magazine disconnect, frame safety AND a hammer block safety. Mine starts jamming a lot if I get too lazy to clean it every couple 100 rounds or so if I remember correctly. They used to offer wood grips on their website for them but apparently that is no longer available. ( too bad ) I remember when I bought the gun I asked the dealer if I bought the longer barrel if that would make a big difference. I was a bit surprised when he told me "Not for that gun" I figured if the dealer was giving me advise that resulted in me spending less $ in his shop it was advice worth taking for sure.
Back to the subject at hand. My experience is that when you are having a tough time deciding between this gun or that gun it means you secretly want both. Both options you are considering are respectable choices for close range personal defense. If its something that matters to you, the J frame will probably hold its value better as the years go bye.
Enjoy you new gun and make sure to come back and tell us what you ended up with.
Hoppes Love Potion
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My happy place is the NAA Black Widow. For a pocket gun, I would not want anything smaller or lighter, nor would I want anything larger or heavier. It fits my hand perfectly and I shoot it as well as my J-frames. It is very safe to carry and very quick into action. High quality, lifetime warranty, and the price is right at under $300. The only real question, is 5 rounds of .22 magnum going to be enough?
WheelGunMan
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I carry my LCR357 in a Kydex IWB holster. It weighs in at 17 oz. so it can be carried all day without even noticing it. I carry my SP101 on occasion but prefer the LCR.
Mosin77
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My Kel-Tec P3AT (the gun Ruger copied when they made the LCP) has never missed a beat. Also cheap, and highly concealable, and not “fine” enough that I’d be devastated if it had to spend months in a police evidence locker should I ever have to use it in self-defense. I personally also find the recoil to be not bad at all -far more pleasant than a snubnose revolver, in fact. I love the idea of revolvers, but the realities of carrying and shooting them just don’t pan out, for me.
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