Problem Bears ... Any Tips?

Deer will eat soybeans from a feeder. I discussed this with a long time refuge manager and deer hunter from North LA. He said that they even bait deer for restocking with soybeans. Don't know if this will work in FL but evidently bears don't like soybeans.

good luck,

Bull

Bull Nutria said:

Deer will eat soybeans from a feeder. I discussed this with a long time refuge manager and deer hunter from North LA. He said that they even bait deer for restocking with soybeans. Don't know if this will work in FL but evidently bears don't like soybeans.

good luck,

Bull

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I bet if he filled that feeder with Tofu....they'd stop eating there.

One year we plowed an area and planted some beans ( I don't remember which it was the cheapest at the feed and seed) and the small deer and doe enjoyed them early and the bucks came in November, I was able to get 3 doe and sil got a buck thanksgiving weekend. That was 3 yrs ago and I've seen deer walking the plowed ground eating weeds that are growing now.
I've never tried a feeder, but if you have access to a tractor it was easy to do

Flintknapper said:

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Don't you love it when you ask a simple question about ONE specific subject and folks take it off on a tangent (or worse), start in-fighting and lecturing.

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Sorry......but being a responsible and law abiding hunter, I get very upset when I see folks suggesting to others to poach(aka SSS). If you are a responsible hunter, you should be upset too. Instead of making jokes about it, you should be chastising and raising a fuss too. If one is not part of the solution, one is part of the problem. AS MLK stated....."In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends". To keep silent about poaching is to condone it. Recently we had a local incident with a bear that, like the ones in the OP, found an easy source of food. This was someone's garbage that was left out and accessible. The folks were told to put the garbage someplace the bear could not get into it and it would soon go away. Instead those folks took it upon themselves to SSS the problem. Only problem was they were not very good at it. This poor 8 year old bear pulled itself around by it's front legs, dragging the rest of it's paralyzed body for three weeks after being shot in the back with a shotgun. Shot in the back tells me the bear was going away and not a threat. The local DNR finally had to put it down. What a waste, over nuttin but garbage and the suggestion of SSS.......

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buck460XVR said:

Sorry......but being a responsible and law abiding hunter, I get very upset when I see folks suggesting to others to poach(aka SSS). If you are a responsible hunter, you should be upset too. Instead of making jokes about it, you should be chastising and raising a fuss too. If one is not part of the solution, one is part of the problem. AS MLK stated....."In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends". To keep silent about poaching is to condone it. Recently we had a local incident with a bear that, like the ones in the OP, found an easy source of food. This was someone's garbage that was left out and accessible. The folks were told to put the garbage someplace the bear could not get into it and it would soon go away. Instead those folks took it upon themselves to SSS the problem. Only problem was they were not very good at it. This poor 8 year old bear pulled itself around by it's front legs, dragging the rest of it's paralyzed body for three weeks after being shot in the back with a shotgun. Shot in the back tells me the bear was going away and not a threat. The local DNR finally had to put it down. What a waste, over nuttin but garbage and the suggestion of SSS.......

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Well...let's clear things up here. I understand you are upset. However...I must insist you RE-READ both my posts and that of the OP. When you do...you will NOT find any suggestion from either of us to SSS or otherwise harm the bears. In fact...quite the opposite. The OP was simply soliciting ideas that might help prevent his feeders from being damaged. To which...I responded. NOWHERE will you find me (or him) "joking" about it.

Because I did not feel a need to 'pile on' with respect to 'poaching' or other illegal acts does NOT mean I condone them. The subject was being adequately addressed. Further...before you decide to impune me or otherwise question my character...you should go back and consider all of my posts (on any subject you like). I don't think you will find much to disparage.

My objection (and only objection) is the tendency in some threads...for folks to off on tangents instead of staying focused on the question that was asked. The OP was rightfully of the same mind.


Edit: 'Pato' you beat me to it. I was typing as you posted.

Flintknapper said:

Well...let's clear things up here. I understand you are upset. However...I must insist you RE-READ both my posts and that of the OP. When you do...you will NOT find any suggestion from either of us to SSS or otherwise harm the bears. In fact...quite the opposite. The OP was simply soliciting ideas that might help prevent his feeders from being damaged. To which...I responded. NOWHERE will you find me (or him) "joking" about it.

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...and if you re-read my posts, you'll see I no-where stated either you or the OP mentioned anything about SSS. My anger of that was only directed at the one poster who still seems to think it is an appropriate method of dealing with the OP's problem. Actually, I think the OP was dealing with his issue in a responsible way and may have accepted the fact that the bears now know where the dinner bell rings.

One think I dislike about the internet and these types of online forums is how easy it is to misunderstand what others are trying to say. Sometimes it's hard to type what's you mind is trying to tell you and sometimes folks(me included) get mental blocks as to how they take how things are said.

I realize that this is more a non-hunter gun owner type forum than some of the others I am on. This is readily apparent by the great amount of members compared to the very little action in the hunting sub-forum. On most any other of those forums, the minute there is any suggestion or admittance of poaching(SSS) at all, the poster is quickly and heavily admonished. Most others do not tolerate this form of hunting behavior at all. Folks on this forum seem to accept it as normal or acceptable activity, since no one tends to comment against it. There have been times when I see it being supported from other members here because they have some sort of special scenario, or just think they know more than the local game/wildlife managers. Sorry, but I'm a firm believer in a zero tolerance policy on poaching. Poachers steal from responsible hunters and the general public. They don't poach because they are hungry, they poach for the thrill or because it's easier than hunting or doing things the proper way. No different than stealing anything else. I have been teaching Hunters Safety for many years. One of my friends in life was the local Game Warden. Maybe from what I have seen or been told from them is why I am so apprehensive about poaching and poachers. But I certainly am not going to apologize for it. I do apologize if I misunderstood your comments as non-concern. I also apologize for drifting on this thread, but not for getting on the case of someone who thinks poaching two bears, for no reason other than coming eating deer bait bait, as a proper solution.

I've said my piece and given my opinion on both of how I think the OP should handle the situation and what I think about someone's else's idea to poach the bears. I'm done.

@Patocazador , did you come up with a action plan? Just curious

I am going to take a lot of heat from my comment here. But I hate feeders and glad my state does not allow them. The reasons are many and should be obvious. Certainly not good for the health of the herd and not what I call hunting. I also am wish State hunters would just obey the game laws. And that especially includes not using Natural Deer Urine. Sickening me to see it on a Shelf in Virginia Retail stores where warnings of CWD disease could wipe out the population. Just like always people want it both ways. They want a healthy deer herd, yet they will have no problem endangering the whole ecosystem. Just no respect for anything. Spend more time out in the woods studying deer and bears and less time worrying about your next kill.
The Op is complaining about the Bears, after HE put out a un-natural food source and mad because the Bears are messing up his Bait for Deer. You go into his home, put out a sweet dish and tell him not to eat. How about this, do not use bait and they will not eat it. Should be simple enough.
(or just put up a NO BEAR ZONE sign).

Jeb Stuart said:

I am going to take a lot of heat from my comment here.

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No heat from me. While I agree in part with what you have posted, I will say, while I don't always agree with how folks hunt, as long as they do it within the law and safely, I don't have a problem with it. Seems to me, the OP is well within the confines of the law and has been responsible and ethical about how he is going to handle it. A solar powered electric fencer may be just the ticket. With the incidence of CWD around here, feeding and baiting is now again illegal in many areas of the state. Yet, folks still do it. Growing up as a kid, baiting was considered one of the worst hunting ethics out there. But as the deer herd grew and new hunter numbers dwindled, so did the sentiment towards making baiting legal. Wasn't until baiting was made legal that it's contribution to the spread of CWD was discovered. Now it's hard to take it away from folks who grew up hunting over bait. Again, iffin it's legal, go for it, even if I don't. I won't trash/bash one for it even if it's not within my ethics. But do or suggest doing something against the law and all bets are off.

Patocazador said:

However, the boar bear showed up in a different area in the daytime and he's a two-tone (like a '56 Ford?).

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^^^^ Or maybe a 'woody'.

...(or just put up a NO BEAR ZONE sign).

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Ah, just gotta think like a “progressive”, I don’t like that, you shouldn’t do it and it should be illegal.

Only problem with sign thing is it doesn’t work in “gun free zones” even with species that can read.