House GOP lawmaker calls on Senate to approve gun universal background check bill
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Shanghai McCoy
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I would not bet on that ...
AlexanderA
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"Universal background checks" are going to be the least of our worries, when a ban on all semiautomatic rifles is on the horizon.
SilentStalker
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All we have to do is organize and say no. Its that simple. At the end of the day, we are still the ones with most of the guns. Wait, cue up everyone coming to tell me the military will come and take them. Laughable. Stand on your own and you won’t stand, stand together and we are a formidable opponent.
They are already on their summer break until after labor day. I thought I heard something about calling a special summer session to work on gun control.
JTHunter
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The problem is the 77 y.o. "Turtle" is at home recovering from a fall that injured (broke?) his shoulder.
IJ1981
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King is incorrigible, as is Mike DeWine and John Kasich of Ohio.
UBC's will not see the light of day. How do you spell infringement?
UBC's will not see the light of day. How do you spell infringement?
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AlexanderA
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I wish it was that simple. Do we have the votes? The Democrats are doing a lot of internal polling and focus-group testing, and they think gun control is a winning issue for them. Otherwise, they wouldn't be pushing so hard on it.
Virginia is going to be the test case, this coming November. If the Dems sweep the legislature, running on a platform of draconian gun control, it's not going to look good for gun owners nationwide.
Nobody is going to go house to house scooping up the guns. The gun-banners are a little more sophisticated than that. They'll use other, more subtle methods. By the same token, gun owners are not going to engage in armed resistance. They are (1) sticklers for legality, and (2) most of them have a lot to lose. Therefore, they'll simply hide their guns and refuse to comply in nonviolent ways. Their guns will be useless for all practical purposes, and then disappear through attrition over the coming several generations.
SilentStalker
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Winning on gun control? Ha. If that was true then gun control would have been implemented long ago. Polls huh? These the same polls that claimed Hilary was winning by a landslide?? How do we know they aren’t biased? Probably polling done by CNN. Please cite some polls from an unbiased source that proves this. In regards to the rest of your post, sure death by 1000 cuts. That’s their plan, but we can either sit here and take it or do something about it. Otherwise, why keep our guns at all? Why dont all of the defeatist just go ahead and turn your stuff in and get off of the gun sights because clearly you’ve given up. Why continue to talk about something you are so sure of? Why hang on to something that is going to get you put in jail or taken? The enemy is working while we are bickering.
It’s also quite alarming to me that people in the community with large resources are just sitting on their loins when they could be making a big difference. I don’t know what they are waiting on. I guess they have given up to.
Deanimator
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- Without REGISTRATION, so-called "universal background checks" are an utter nullity.
- Registration has NO purpose beyond facilitation of future CONFISCATION.
- Without REGISTRATION, it will be widely IGNORED.
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Remember the Bundy standoff? That seemed to work well.
These are also my views of how it'll happen, whenever it does happen. After the door is open, they'll eventually make the penalty (whatever form it takes) too high for a law-abiding citizen or a parent who is responsible to their kids, etc., to risk. Millions of otherwise law-abiding citizens may keep some or all of their guns, but for what purpose? If they are ever used, then you're toast. At that point, only the criminals and the government will have guns, and the law-abiding citizens who are the backbone of the country will be at the mercy of both groups.
We already have that here in CO. Most people ignore it for ftf sales. And as far as I know no LEO is actually concerned enough to do stings or the like. Like the mag ban, no one seems to care.
SilentStalker
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Those people were idiots. But what’s your solution? Stand down? Man you guys need to stop with all this defeatist crap. Go ahead then, get off here and line up and turn all your crap in.
Do something or get off the pot. Too many people want other people to fight their battles. I propose that it’s time the gun community fights it’s own battles.
Excellent, hard to enforce universal registration and know where the guns are you want to ban if they can be transferred outside of official paperwork are located.
How can you know who is complying with bans if you don't know who has what and where? And how can you even begin to know that if you don''t force all gun sales to take place in places with people motivated to comply with any law officials come up with or lose their livelihood or firearm license?
Just play on the little pathetic law abider, make him flag himself, register himself, be passive and timid, and send in the trained professionals to deal the minority that take any kind of stand.
Ah we have arrived.
Where did it start? Probably prohibited persons. Once the government can control who is armed, even people not felt to warrant the resources of being locked away, they can disarm anyone at will and civil disobedience is itself a prohibiting felony offense used to divide and conquer.
While those still clinging to their permission slip and jumping through the hoops they are told to will not want to associate with those taking a stand because maybe they can still remain in good favor for awhile.
So easily divided and conquered.
How can you know who is complying with bans if you don't know who has what and where? And how can you even begin to know that if you don''t force all gun sales to take place in places with people motivated to comply with any law officials come up with or lose their livelihood or firearm license?
Just play on the little pathetic law abider, make him flag himself, register himself, be passive and timid, and send in the trained professionals to deal the minority that take any kind of stand.
Ah we have arrived.
Where did it start? Probably prohibited persons. Once the government can control who is armed, even people not felt to warrant the resources of being locked away, they can disarm anyone at will and civil disobedience is itself a prohibiting felony offense used to divide and conquer.
While those still clinging to their permission slip and jumping through the hoops they are told to will not want to associate with those taking a stand because maybe they can still remain in good favor for awhile.
So easily divided and conquered.
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alsaqr
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US Rep. Peter King has long been anti-gun. He is also pro IRA.
Don't worry about politicians like Peter King. Worry about NRA A rated politicians who flip: Today US Rep Mike Turner who represents Dayton, Ohio flipped: Turner now wants an "assault weapons" ban.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ne-limits/ar-AAFrccu?li=BBnb7Kz&OCID=AVRES000
Don't worry about politicians like Peter King. Worry about NRA A rated politicians who flip: Today US Rep Mike Turner who represents Dayton, Ohio flipped: Turner now wants an "assault weapons" ban.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ne-limits/ar-AAFrccu?li=BBnb7Kz&OCID=AVRES000
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alsaqr
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Be a leader: Jump right out there and get it rolling. Don't be surprised when you have few followers.
Toomey has already warned against jumping too soon without momentum being developed. This will die.
AlexanderA
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The coming battle will not be about universal background checks, but will be about assault weapon bans. And within the argument about assault weapon bans, the key factor will be whether to grandfather existing guns, or not.
We should get ready, because this is coming. Probably not this year or next, but certainly by 2021.
Considering the number of such guns in existence, a ban with grandfathering will be toothless. A ban without grandfathering will be catastrophic.
We should get ready, because this is coming. Probably not this year or next, but certainly by 2021.
Considering the number of such guns in existence, a ban with grandfathering will be toothless. A ban without grandfathering will be catastrophic.
Ignition Override
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Whether on a state or federal level, even a ban on certain 'evil features" of sport utility rifles (as happened in the 90s) or magazine limits-- if passed in states which don't have any limit-- would be only the first step.
With no "sunset" of a future bill, each new step simply accumulates.
Accomplishing major gun legislation This Year is Not their ultimate objective--it is a succession of laws/bans heaped together, twenty, thirty, fifty years from now. This is how Ho Chi Minh gradually took control of Vietnam (and he was gone for thirty years....just a step).
His mindset is at work in our country, whether with eventual semi-auto gun bans or with education, media control etc. They don't care how much time is required for near-total control.
"Enemy retreat, you attack. Enemy stop, you probe, Enemy attack you withdraw".
Will you vote in 2020? Let's also keep in mind the proposed legislation in your state capitals.
With no "sunset" of a future bill, each new step simply accumulates.
Accomplishing major gun legislation This Year is Not their ultimate objective--it is a succession of laws/bans heaped together, twenty, thirty, fifty years from now. This is how Ho Chi Minh gradually took control of Vietnam (and he was gone for thirty years....just a step).
His mindset is at work in our country, whether with eventual semi-auto gun bans or with education, media control etc. They don't care how much time is required for near-total control.
"Enemy retreat, you attack. Enemy stop, you probe, Enemy attack you withdraw".
Will you vote in 2020? Let's also keep in mind the proposed legislation in your state capitals.
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