Forget Payless, it was BOGO at the LGS today.....

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So, my good buddy, Roger, is getting ready to retire and sell his gun shop after 45 (!) years in the gun biz. It will be the end of an era and a sad, sad day for his many regulars who love to stop by his shop/museum, festooned as it is with deactivated machine guns, WW2 battle flags, bayonets, artillery shells, and model airplanes, just to shoot the breeze and maybe buy an old Mauser or whatnot.

It is my happy place.

He is in negotiations with a couple folks who may keep the property as a gunshop, or they might just tear it down and open a Starbucks......:(

In any event, I stopped by today after picking up chili and burgers for Roger and his helper as I do a couple times a week. After lunch, he pointed out a nice 6" M10 he had just put out for a very reasonable price.

Well that was a no-brainer, so I started counting out bills- but Roger set TWO revolvers on the counter, the Smith and a Colt Army Spl. that had been sitting in the case for a few weeks. Bubba had gotten ahold of it at some point and crudely hacked an inch off the barrel, but the gun was mechanically sound, and I had looked at it a few times but it wasn't something I HAD to have, so I passed.

"Here," he said, "That Smith is a package deal. Take this one too, I know you will give it a good home."

I tried to protest, but to no avail. I picked up a vintage Leupold VariX and some extra AR mags as well, to compensate him a little for his very generous offer.

Well, enough chatter, heres the gun porn- :D
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Too soon, Im afraid, my happy place will be gone, but today was good times with good buds.:)
 
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I fear it’s an end of an era as these older gents retire and/or close up their gunshops. Sadly, it seems as though there is not a bright future fiscally and politically to create a stable income in a private gun shop. The volatility and risk of regulation is hard to stomach for a family man.

I think that pawn shops will become the new “gunshops” of the future as they are diversified enough to keep cash flow up.
 
Several of the gunshops around me are actually newer and the guys are younger late 20s to mid 30s, these shops are actually expanding and making some money but it's not just a gun shop anymore. It has to have a range, offer classes (ltc, hunting/fishing license, new shooters), has a gunsmith. Are the days of the local gun shop (and I mean just the gun shop) over? I hope not, but I do see new blood at the least being the ones to take over. Don't worry some of the new blood isn't all Glocks and Sigs. I'm 26 and I spend most of my time here in the revolver forum. As far as the guns go that was mighty generous of him to do you must be a good regular/friend. I wouldn't even worry about the Colt if anything I'd have the gun crowned if it isn't already and shoot as is. Those old .38s are really something, a damn shame we can't see more .38s that aren't snubs anymore.
 
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Got to love that Roger! Super nice of him for what he did with those two vintage .38s! He definitely knows they're going to good home!

Yep, you're going to miss that fine gentleman and his gun shop!
 
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Congratulations sounds like a great shop I wouldn’t swap barrels on that colt have someone clean up the crown if need be but that is it if I remember right there is a smith that was willing to do a swap for me a while back I think it was frank glen in Glendale if you want it done
 
Nice find on the 6" model 10. I have one and love shooting it. We call it "Granpa" because it has such a classic old timey look to it. I would shoot that Colt a bit before deciding to swap out the barrel. You might really like it just the way it is.

I had an old shop close to me that I bought many guns from. It was ran by an older guy and he had 2-4 older guys that hung around in there all day long because that was all they had to do. They had a big coffee pot and a wood burning free standing stove and sat around and told lies to each other all day. I hated it when that place closed. It was the end of an era I won't see again. I almost cried. But old James the owner was getting where he was falling and unsteady on his feet. He went to live with his son in Wichita Falls Tx. I hope he is still alive but I bet he's not. Thanks James where ever you are.:(
 
Nice find on the 6" model 10. I have one and love shooting it. We call it "Granpa" because it has such a classic old timey look to it. I would shoot that Colt a bit before deciding to swap out the barrel. You might really like it just the way it is.

I had an old shop close to me that I bought many guns from. It was ran by an older guy and he had 2-4 older guys that hung around in there all day long because that was all they had to do. They had a big coffee pot and a wood burning free standing stove and sat around and told lies to each other all day. I hated it when that place closed. It was the end of an era I won't see again. I almost cried. But old James the owner was getting where he was falling and unsteady on his feet. He went to live with his son in Wichita Falls Tx. I hope he is still alive but I bet he's not. Thanks James where ever you are.:(
Ya, Ive had 4" M10s come and go over the years, they were always kinda "meh"- I like the M15 much better. But the extra 2" on this one really changes the dynamics of the gun and makes it special.

Ive been looking at youtube videos of Colt Barrel swaps and it looks like a bit of a pain. Plus you need to buy and/or fabricate some tools such as holding fixtures and setback cutters. All in all, too much effort to rebarrel this gun. Im going to keep it as is.:)

Although.....I might try to do something about that horrific sight blade. Im thinking an old penny cut in half would give it some character.......:D
 
I think a silver dime is the traditional after market home made front sight. I can't tell too much from your pictures but it looks like the front blade is soldered on. The first thing I would try is reshaping it. Thats is if it is the proper height and sighted in now. If not I would heat it and remove it and cut a dovetail and add a front sight that could be drifted for windage.

The sight isn't too bad like it is. It just needs more rounding on the corners to look like an old time sight. More of the half moon look.
 
I think a silver dime is the traditional after market home made front sight. I can't tell too much from your pictures but it looks like the front blade is soldered on. The first thing I would try is reshaping it. Thats is if it is the proper height and sighted in now. If not I would heat it and remove it and cut a dovetail and add a front sight that could be drifted for windage.

The sight isn't too bad like it is. It just needs more rounding on the corners to look like an old time sight. More of the half moon look.
Bubba should have removed material from the bottom, rather that the top to keep the original profile.:confused:
 
Sounds like you had a good day regarding the gun deal but the loss of a great shop like that can’t be covered by a gun deal.
I have list a couple of great gun stores in my time and it does leave you feeling empty inside.

Love that model 10 though.
 
In my area over the last decade we have gone from three good shops to zero. One retired and closed, but the others were forced out by competition from big box stores. It’s tough to compete with Bass Pro, Cabellas, Academy & Dicks all within a 10-15 mile range. It looks like the “old time” gunshop is gone around here.
 
I was talking to my gunsmith today. I've been lucky over the years to have one of the most respected smiths in the country do work for me. He is getting up in age and has had some health issues but at least for now he is back to work and going as strong as age and health will allow. I wish there was someway that I could plug into his brain and drain even 10% of his gunsmith knowledge. There aren't many of the good old guys like Roger above and my gunsmith. I can see a day when all gunsmith work will be whatever the factory will do under warranty. The true old smiths are dying out and no one is coming along to carry the torch.
 
I, too, miss the old gun shops and owners, even if some of them had their peculiarities. One place I can think of sold ammo during the banic at reasonable prices, no gouging, but you had to overcome the blanket of cigarette smoke from the owner smoking like a chimney and be OK with the fact your clothes were going to stink of smoke when you walked out. Not to mention the political climate being slightly to the right of Attila the Hun. Well, maybe not slightly.....

New gun shop/ ranges/ training centers are OK, but there's the chance you'll never see the same counter person twice, and you definitely won't find the old boxes of ammo or parts hidden in the dark recesses of an old poorly lit shop. They also probably won't buy old guns with the idea that so and so will probably take it because they know his buying habits.

When I go in these new places I always feel a little bit like I'm being hustled to meet their latest sales projection. I guess such is the price for them being an expensive startup rather than a hobby business in an old timer's garage. I'd prefer the old timer any time.
 
Oh, Ive found a few Official Police barrels for sale online, how hard are they to change on a Colt?

Colts are complex and difficult guns to work on. Change one part and it affects everything. I recommend looking at www.coltforum.com. I will give a recommendation of www.facebook.com/spartanfirearmcompany, which I found through the forum. They went through my 41 DA that needed headspace corrected for $100. Not a bad price considering the lack of Colt smiths since Colt quit working on older guns. The only problem is turn-around, but they are up-front about the wait.
 
Colts are complex and difficult guns to work on. Change one part and it affects everything. I recommend looking at www.coltforum.com. I will give a recommendation of www.facebook.com/spartanfirearmcompany, which I found through the forum. They went through my 41 DA that needed headspace corrected for $100. Not a bad price considering the lack of Colt smiths since Colt quit working on older guns. The only problem is turn-around, but they are up-front about the wait.

Thanks for the 'smith recomendation, but I cant imagine paying anyone to work on my cars or guns, lol.

The barrel swap is pretty straight forward- if you have the right tools. By the time I buy a decent barrel and setback cutter Im into it for another $150, and thats assuming I fabricate a holding fixture and frame wrench. Ive just got too many other projects on my plate to mess with this gun much, especially as the crown is decent and it should shoot fine as is.

I think a few minutes with the dremel to recontour the front sight and a touch of cold blue will do it for the time being.:)
 
It's hard to keep my LGS in business. I was in the market for a 629 and he couldn't come within $150 of the best internet deal, and that was BEFORE tax! I'm OK paying a little more, say $50 for the personalized service and attention he provides, but not >$150. He was very understanding, and urged me to make the online purchase. Good guy.
 
Make your fixture solid, The frame is easy to crack. I will also recommend soaking the joint in Kroil or an acetone ATF mix for a week. Hopefully you can set the gap without having to shim the cylinder. That's where the trouble begins. A copy of Kuhnhausen's book on Colt DA revolvers can be a big help. He put together the material Colt used to train their smiths. Good luck.
And if you can afford it, buy both guns.
 
Make your fixture solid, The frame is easy to crack. I will also recommend soaking the joint in Kroil or an acetone ATF mix for a week. Hopefully you can set the gap without having to shim the cylinder. That's where the trouble begins. A copy of Kuhnhausen's book on Colt DA revolvers can be a big help. He put together the material Colt used to train their smiths. Good luck.
And if you can afford it, buy both guns.
I did actually get both, though I only paid for the Smith. It was a Buy One Get One (free) deal.:)
 
We just about lost our local Gun Shop this past year but his son took it over & although it is different with all the ONLINE
sales & stuff, it isn't that much different, everyone still knows you or will make you feel at home if they don't.
 
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