Beretta 92X

I think they are a very good option. All the parts are full steel, trigger, safety/decocker, guide rod, not polymer or polymer coated metal. The slide has sight dovetails front and rear. They are available as "G" models, decocker only, if that's your thing. They come with a new additional grip that mimics the standard M9/92 grip. They are also available in three sizes, Full, Centurion, and Compact (both with and without rail options), and the 92X Performance competition version.

If you like the Beretta M9/92 Series of guns, I think this is one of the best options Beretta has ever made available.

http://www.beretta.com/en-us/berett...91.205832093.1565978755-1402062728.1565795584

The changes to the grip profile and safety location make the 92x a very intriguing model for me when the standard 92 was a hard pass for me.

JR24 said:

The changes to the ... and safety location make the 92x ...

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Realize the 92X Performance is just one member of the 92X line-up.

The 92X Performance is compelling.

May want to look at Wilson Combat’s 92 Beretta variants also.

JTQ said:

Realize the 92X Performance is just one member of the 92X line-up.

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I do, but it is the one I saw in the shop and the one I liked

TomJ, I feel your pain. So many cool firearms' worth of money in private school tuition!

TomJ said:

I believe you can do a D spring upgrade to improve the trigger pull on the 92 series guns. I may be spoiled from my CZ's with the CGW Ultra Lite Kit, but the trigger pull on the 92X was smooth but heavier than I'd like. Could you install the D spring on the 92X, and would that help lighten the trigger pull?

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You can change the hammer springs on the 92X. However, I think the 92X, just like the M9A3, comes with a "D" spring already installed.

Wilson Combat and Langdon Tactical both offer lighter weight springs to tune the trigger to just about whatever you want. The "D" spring is a 16 pounder, but you can get 14, 13, 12, and 11 pounders.

Wilson Combat https://shopwilsoncombat.com/Beretta-92_96/products/465/2/0

Langdon Tactical https://www.langdontactical.com/pro...eries-parts-accessories/?sort=featured&page=4

If you want to hop it up even more, Langdon Tactical will sell you a "Trigger Job in a Bag"

https://www.langdontactical.com/trigger-job-in-a-bag-92-96-m9-series/

It depends on how low you go, and what primers you use.

I think I've read Ernest Langdon (and I think WilsonCombatRep) say 13 pounds and up should ignite just about anything (as long as nothing else is out of spec/excessively dirty/overly worn out/etc.), and the 12 pound and below should be considered for "competition/range" use and with US made ammo (I think Federal primers are generally preferred for the lower weight springs).

I don't know all the ins and outs of the various trigger bars and other modifications, but I think the Wilson trigger bar (and if there is another Langdon version) is more "optimized" (I think there may be some description in the Trigger Job in a Bag text) and will give more reliable ignition with lighter weight hammer springs. However, I still don't think they intend the 12 and 11 pound springs for anything other than range/competition use.

The standard M9/92FS hammer spring is a 20 pounder, so even just going to a "D" spring should be quite a change to a standard M9/92FS.

From the Langdon Tactical FAQ page regarding hammer springs and corresponding trigger pull weights.

https://www.langdontactical.com/faq

• 11# DA: 5.3 to 6 lbs
• 12# DA: 5.6 to 6.4lbs
• 13# DA: 6.3 to 7lbs
• 14# DA: 7 to 7.5lbs
• 16# DA: 7.2 to 8 lbs

With the Single-Action will be between 3.5 and 4 lbs for both the 92/96 and PX4.

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TomJ said:

Wilson Combat's website says their reduced power springs will ignite most primers 100% of the time.

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LOL 60% of the time it works every time.

TomJ said:

I passed a LGS this afternoon who has the Wilsons in stock and would love to buy one, however we just transferred my youngest son to a private school (our local middle school is horrific) and upcoming tuition payments stopped me. I have a number of 1911's and can part with one. It'll cover the cost of the 92X, but not the Wilson.

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I here ya. Some expensive guns out there. And some of the schools in my area are a total joke. Discipline is unheard of. Teachers are basically held captive by the Politically correct. God forbid they give out a referral. I would love to have the New 92X. But out of my league for the present time. You did the right thing. Your son will benefit for years to come. And no price tag on that.

TomJ said:

I'm going to call Wilson Combat when I have a chance during the week to get more details about their spring kit. If it's not going to be reliable I'll take a pass.

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Oh, I suspect they're going to hedge their bets (just like on their web page) since they have no idea what kind of junk ammunition folks are likely to put in their guns.

The reason Beretta puts a 20 pound hammer spring, which is pretty heavy, in the M9/92 is to make sure all that cheap eastern European, hard primer ammo, folks are running in their guns get ignited.

There is a big window between the 20 pound and 11 pound spring and I've got to believe you'll find something that is comfortable to operate and will ignite the ammo you choose.

This is on the Langdon Tactical FAQ page, but easier to link on YouTube.

"Why Choose a Traditional Double Action Gun?"



One reason he lists is because they do a better job of consistently igniting primers. For what it's worth.

460Shooter

The 92X Performance is compelling.

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Likewise I am similarly intrigued by the 92X Performance although it is a bit on the pricey side. If I still was set on getting a Beretta 92 then I would consider the 92X Centurion. Big selling point here is the Vertec type grip design which suits my smaller size hand very well.

Two years ago, when Ernest Langdon announced, on another forum, Beretta was introducing the Langdon M9 ( http://www.beretta.com/en-us/langdon-m9/ ), I commented the following in the thread ...

G Lever, and a bunch of other cool stuff - sounds good to me. I do think the orange dot would be a neat item.

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I think "the folks" would just like to get a G-model - with anything else on it - that doesn't cost over $1,000.

The price difference between a 92FS/G (though I don't really know what a 92G costs since I've never seen one in the flesh) and a Wilson 92G Brigadier Tactical or 92G-SD is pretty much the cost of a Glock. That's a pretty big delta for a lot of folks.

The regular 92G seemed to come back in the inventory just about the time Beretta announced the plans to move to Tennessee, and they never got to the shelves in any numbers.

Personally, I'm lusting for a 92G Vertec.

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Interestingly, the Beretta rep on that forum made the following comment

Watching feedback with interest guys

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Beretta is basically building the gun I was asking for two years ago in the form of the 92X. Heck, now I feel compelled to buy one.