My First Gun Show (What to expect)

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Hello all

As the title says I will be attending my first gun show or quite frankly my first real experience and exposure to many arms. I plan to be a future carrier and thought going to my local show would be a good first place to start. I just wanted to ask you all if you had any tips or info for the first timer at a show and what to expect or even how to come out of there with the best deal on my first arm.

Thank you guys all ahead of time.
 
First don't buy anything without knowing a reasonable price point for your area. They will let you handle many firearms. Respect what the owner/dealer says about things like dry firing and such. And DO NOT point a firearm at anybody ever. Point it at the celing or such.....everybody will be happier. Do not forget to have fun either.
 
Enjoy the jerky and all of the other non-gun tables as well.

BRING CASH

Money talks and BS walks; be prepared to walk away.

DO YOUR RESEARCH as to what you are wanting to buy, know current pricing and go accordingly
and I'm definitely looking forward to the Jerky :D Thank you for your reply.
 
First don't buy anything without knowing a reasonable price point for your area. They will let you handle many firearms. Respect what the owner/dealer says about things like dry firing and such. And DO NOT point a firearm at anybody ever. Point it at the celing or such.....everybody will be happier. Do not forget to have fun either.
Most Definitely! thank you for your reply.
 
Welcome to the forum!

Even though most shows and vendors are safety oriented, never assume that a firearm is unloaded until you have checked it. If you are not sure how to do so, ask the vendor to demonstrate clearing the weapon before handling. As Frogo said, keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction even after clearing the gun.

Do not "dry fire" the gun unless the vendor is OK with it, this can damage some guns, especially .22s.

It seems like common sense, but vendors will ALWAYS appreciate it if you ask before picking up a gun and playing with it.

If your locality and show allows it, private sales are often the best deals to be had at a gunshow. These are the folks walking around with guns for sale and, often, the smaller vendor tables. These are not licensed dealers and do not have to do backround checks or charge tax, nor will there be waiting periods and such for you to take your gun home.

When negotiating, always ask if the price is out-the-door or pre tax and call- most dealers charge a fee for the backround check.
 
I have and still do work both sides of the isles at Gun Shows. Some I set up with a buddy that owns a Gun Shop and sometimes I go to shows shopping like everybody else. From the buyer's side, do your research before you go if you are looking for something in particular. Know what the stuff you are looking to buy is selling for in your area. Guns sell for different prices in different regions. Not sure why, but they do. Know what to look for such as changed parts etc. Take a small screwdriver and a pocket flash light. I always ask to look under the grip if a blue or nickel gun has rubber grips. Find a lot of rust that way that has kept me from buying a gun a regretting it later. If a dealer won't let me remove the grips, I ask him politely if he will remove them. If that is refused, I'll walk. I figure he has something to hide. Dealers expect buyers to try to talk them down on price. That's normal. Don't insult the seller. If he is way off what you feel the gun is worth, you are not going to get anywhere making an offer that is way low of his asking price. If the seller is way out of line based on your research, then just say thanks and walk on. Even if his is way off base, making him feel you are lowballing won't get you anywhere. Its just a waste of time for both. I find as a buyer, if I have something to trade, go ahead and pull it out before you start the negotiating. I've always felt I got a better deal with all the cards on the table up front.
As a seller at shows, we expect to be hit with a lower offer most of the time. Everyone that walks in the door thinks its American Pickers and don't plan on paying anyone's asking price. The biggest challenge a seller has is to price a gun where he has a little room to negotiate, but not so high that people walk by and don't stop. Don't insult me with a ridiculous offer. That tells me you aren't a serious buyer and I don't want to waste my time talking to you. If you don't know something, just ask. Most dealers at the shows I attend are honest (I said most) and will shoot you straight info while at the same time making their gun sounds like the deal of the century, but you do usually get honest info. indy1919a4 stated it best. Have fun. Learn some stuff. Don't feel like just because you are at a show and might have a pocket full of money that you have to panic buy either. I go mostly for the fellowship. There are dealers I only see 2-3 times a year and talk to by email and phone a lot, but face to face is so much more fun. Get to know the regulars. You will have a blast!!!!
 
Always have a plan, even if, when the time comes, it falls through. If something has already piqued your interest ask about it HERE and NOW! Remember they made more than one so walking is an acceptable reaction if the deal isn’t right. Friendly conversation with dealers will give better odds than arguing even if done in a negotiatory way (If I spend more than $xxx my widow will be enjoying this gun).

If you think it’s what you want and you’re ready to jump, check your wallet and let them see you have money to spend if they’d just budge a little. Remember they made more than one. Bring a wingman if you can so you don’t miss something on your list. Remember they made more than one.

Have a smart phone handy and point it to Bud’s Gunshop to sneak a peak at internet pricing if you’re uncertain. I don’t mind paying a bit more for local where I can put eyes on it, especially if wood stocks are involved. Yes enjoy the food but realize it’s overpriced so don’t flitter away too much of that hard earned. Grab a microfiber cloth to wipe your hands off with and any serious contenders so scratches or bluing touch-ups can be seen.

Don’t get roped in by the guy selling $79 “sniper grade” scopes that go to 11, he’ll try to engage you and everyone else, pretend he’s not there. Bet I know where you got those shoes! Google that if you don’t understand that one. And finally, and always in a friendly manner, it’s ok for you to remind a seller that YOU know they made more than one, but you’d be fine purchasing his gun if the price is right.

Best of luck and enjoy, and welcome to THR.
 
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I always go by myself so I can go at my own pace. I usually have two or three things in the back of my mind that I'm looking for but don't pass up happy surprises. Since you're something of a neophyte you may want to go with someone more experienced but don't go with a crowd. I carry a shoulder bag, flashlight and pen and paper.

I'll cruise through the aisles and, if I see something interesting but can't make a quick deal, I'll note were it is so I can come back. You can always go back and dicker a little more. Of course there's always the chance it may be gone but there are plenty of fish in the sea. Don't fall in love but sometimes a seller may not know what they really have and you can make a score. That's rare but it happens. Don't quibble over $10 if there's something you want.

Be polite and respectful. Cash is always king and bring plenty but don't be in a hurry to give it away.
 
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Just went to a show today. ASSUME NOTHING!! For instance, I like .22 Mag (WMR) anything. I saw a (supposedly) unfired AMT Automag II 22 Mag for $700 with box and 2 magazines. Hmmmm. Interesting. Moved on a bit and saw a pre owned AMT Automag II 22 Mag for $400. It is typical but there was no magazine in the gun. I inquired and as it turns out it did not come with a magazine. The mags for an AMT Automag II 22 mag are unobnainium so that gun may have been worth a doorstop price unless you decided to buy the other one too.

Never assume anything. Ask ask ask. Be skeptical always. Pretend like you don't know anything.

I once ran into a Remington 7600 .280. The seller just thought it was a run of the mill 7600 and priced it like a 30-06 or .270 would go for. .280 Rem 7600s are very uncommon and I scooped it up for 1/3 the price they commonly go for.
 
Welcome to the forum!

Even though most shows and vendors are safety oriented, never assume that a firearm is unloaded until you have checked it. If you are not sure how to do so, ask the vendor to demonstrate clearing the weapon before handling. As Frogo said, keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction even after clearing the gun.

Do not "dry fire" the gun unless the vendor is OK with it, this can damage some guns, especially .22s.

It seems like common sense, but vendors will ALWAYS appreciate it if you ask before picking up a gun and playing with it.

If your locality and show allows it, private sales are often the best deals to be had at a gunshow. These are the folks walking around with guns for sale and, often, the smaller vendor tables. These are not licensed dealers and do not have to do backround checks or charge tax, nor will there be waiting periods and such for you to take your gun home.

When negotiating, always ask if the price is out-the-door or pre tax and call- most dealers charge a fee for the backround check.
Those are some question I wont forget to ask! Also I wont completely disregard the private vendors now to. Thank you for your reply as well as the welcome :)
 
Wear comfortable clothes and footwear. ASK before you pick up any firearm even if the signs say it's OK to handle them. Don't walk around with food or drink in your hands.
Gotcha and eat my over abundance supply of jerky at the tables :D Thank you for your reply.
 
Walk and explore the whole show before buying unless you know it is a good deal already. One table on one side and another on the other side can have the same thing for different prices.
Got it, ill be sure to check out all the tables. Thank you for your reply.
 
I recommend bringing a backpack to help keep your hands free, and I usually bring an empty guncase or sleeve as well, so I dont have to buy one there- but then I have lots of extra cases laying around. :)
I hope to have that problem one day :) Thank you for your reply.
 
Most of the vendors will be asking retail price on new (or like new) guns. Better deals are usually at Mom & Pop shops —not at the show. You might find some ammo deals, but again, know retail costs before you go.
Sure will, Thank you for your reply.
 
Do your research before buying. There are some good deal. Also alot of expensive stuff. See something you like hop onto GunBroker. Or check sites like academy. It's a cool place to go. Alot of like minded folks. Have fun and most of the time you can hagle prices down. Bring cash. Some take cards but cash is King. Take your time. See something you like look at other tables. Don't see it any cheaper walk back. And buy it. And enjoy the jerky.
 
I have and still do work both sides of the isles at Gun Shows. Some I set up with a buddy that owns a Gun Shop and sometimes I go to shows shopping like everybody else. From the buyer's side, do your research before you go if you are looking for something in particular. Know what the stuff you are looking to buy is selling for in your area. Guns sell for different prices in different regions. Not sure why, but they do. Know what to look for such as changed parts etc. Take a small screwdriver and a pocket flash light. I always ask to look under the grip if a blue or nickel gun has rubber grips. Find a lot of rust that way that has kept me from buying a gun a regretting it later. If a dealer won't let me remove the grips, I ask him politely if he will remove them. If that is refused, I'll walk. I figure he has something to hide. Dealers expect buyers to try to talk them down on price. That's normal. Don't insult the seller. If he is way off what you feel the gun is worth, you are not going to get anywhere making an offer that is way low of his asking price. If the seller is way out of line based on your research, then just say thanks and walk on. Even if his is way off base, making him feel you are lowballing won't get you anywhere. Its just a waste of time for both. I find as a buyer, if I have something to trade, go ahead and pull it out before you start the negotiating. I've always felt I got a better deal with all the cards on the table up front.
As a seller at shows, we expect to be hit with a lower offer most of the time. Everyone that walks in the door thinks its American Pickers and don't plan on paying anyone's asking price. The biggest challenge a seller has is to price a gun where he has a little room to negotiate, but not so high that people walk by and don't stop. Don't insult me with a ridiculous offer. That tells me you aren't a serious buyer and I don't want to waste my time talking to you. If you don't know something, just ask. Most dealers at the shows I attend are honest (I said most) and will shoot you straight info while at the same time making their gun sounds like the deal of the century, but you do usually get honest info. indy1919a4 stated it best. Have fun. Learn some stuff. Don't feel like just because you are at a show and might have a pocket full of money that you have to panic buy either. I go mostly for the fellowship. There are dealers I only see 2-3 times a year and talk to by email and phone a lot, but face to face is so much more fun. Get to know the regulars. You will have a blast!!!!
Ooh yeah il definitely be sure to do or ask for a thorough inspection before i walk outta there with something, Hopefully I wont have to deal with to many shady vendors. All great points here. Thank you for your reply.
 
Always have a plan, even if, when the time comes, it falls through. If something has already piqued your interest ask about it HERE and NOW! Remember they made more than one so walking is an acceptable reaction if the deal isn’t right. Friendly conversation with dealers will give better odds than arguing even if done in a negotiatory way (If I spend more than $xxx my widow will be enjoying this gun).

If you think it’s what you want and you’re ready to jump, check your wallet and let them see you have money to spend if they’d just budge a little. Remember they made more than one. Bring a wingman if you can so you don’t miss something on your list. Remember they made more than one.

Have a smart phone handy and point it to Bud’s Gunshop to sneak a peak at internet pricing if you’re uncertain. I don’t mind paying a bit more for local where I can put eyes on it, especially if wood stocks are involved. Yes enjoy the food but realize it’s overpriced so don’t flitter away too much of that hard earned. Grab a microfiber cloth to wipe your hands off with and any serious contenders so scratches or bluing touch-ups can be seen.

Don’t get roped in by the guy selling $79 “sniper grade” scopes that go to 11, he’ll try to engage you and everyone else, pretend he’s not there. Bet I know where you got those shoes! Google that if you don’t understand that one. And finally, and always in a friendly manner, it’s ok for you to remind a seller that YOU know they made more than one, but you’d be fine purchasing his gun if the price is right.

Best of luck and enjoy, and welcome to THR.
Solid techniques ill implement all of them ! Thank you for your reply and the welcome :)
 
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