Dan Wesson 15-2 357

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Take a stone with you so you can touch up any burrs caused by the rubbing of the barrel against the cylinder to get an accurate b/c gap measurement.
What would cause the B/C gap to close up to this point? Yoke/crane/bushing wear? The gun was probably only set up for .002-.003 in the first place so it wouldn't take a lot I guess. I picked it up today for $300 cash and a non firearm item that I never used that was collecting dust in a spare room. It has some blemishes on the cylinder I didn't see before but the frame and shroud are practically perfect. I don't think I've ever seen a deeper, darker blue on a revolver before. Now I've got to wait for the barrel tool to arrive so I can reset the gap. When I release the cylinder I've got to guide it out or it will free fall. Is this normal with Dan Wessons? IMG_0191_LI.jpg IMG_0190_LI.jpg
 
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I have two Monson Mass. DW-15”s: one came as part of the 2-4-6-8” Vent-Heavy shroud pistol pac with all the goodies described in the earlier post and one I bought as a frame and added a 3” VH EWK barrel/shroud and Hogue wooden grips. Both guns are in great shape, and I do what I can to keep them like that.

I love DW guns: stout, versatile and more accurate than I am.

$500 isn’t the worst I’ve seen, but I’d offer $425 right now to the proprietor and see what happens. You may just get it for something close to that.

Now, if I could just get a DW .357 Max Super Mag or a .22 Magnum DW to appear in my stocking on Christmas...;)

Stay safe.
002.JPG I used to have a 357 mod 15 for yrs, great shooter, lucked into this mod 40, 357 Supermag, base gun with 8" barrel for less than my original mod 15. Yrs if Ebay shopping got my almost complete kit.
 
I went to look at the gun today cash in hand. It looked great, no worn bluing, no plum color blue anywhere, the forcing cone showed no wear and no flame cutting. The balance the gun is fantastic and you'd never think it was nearly 40 years old by looking. The cylinder locked up tight and the locking lug was barely showing any wear at all. Single action was excellent.. I asked him to take the rubber grip off and it showed no rust underneath or frame wear. He offered to take off the side plate. No rust and no signs of problems except very oily and looked like someone had used some light grease inside. Also the hammer had an arc rubbed in it on the left side deep enough to easily feel with you finger nail. Then I tried DA and something was wrong. The trigger would go back some and hit a wall and have to be forced by more pressure to get past it if you were pulling the trigger DA slowly. If you pulled the trigger more quickly it wasn't as noticeable. It was binding. I checked the B/C gap and pretty much wasn't any as it took some effort to get a .002 gauge in. I looked at the face of the cylinder and you could see marks where it had been binding on barrel. The cylinder didn't have excessive build up on it. He had no barrel tool so we couldn't reset the gap. Also he had put a Wolff "competition" trigger return spring in and several times the trigger stuck back and wouldn't return without help. I suggested he put the stock trigger return spring back in and order a barrel tool so we could unscrew the barrel some to get .006 B/C gap and see if that was the problem with DA. This is his first revolver so I offered to help him with the barrel adjustment when the tool comes in. He honestly didn't realize there was a problem as he only shot it SA. We both left disappointed. After we adjust the BC gap, I'll try it and make a decision. Hopefully the barrel will unscrew without a major problem after who knows how many years.
The barrel is under tension and should unscrew easily once the shroud is removed. I've had a few DW's and currently have a Model 40 and have never had a problem removing a barrel, if there's no obvious rust and oil/grease in the action, the barrel shouldn't be a problem, and the .002 gap definitely will affect the double action rotation of a model 15. My mod 40 is supposed to use .002 but caused cylinder bind on a specific area, backed out to .003 and enough clearance for easy double action without bind.
 
Congratulations on your new Dan Wesson.
Fear not about taking it apart. These are some of the simplest revolvers to work on.
The long side plate screw will capture your mainspring, and everything can be done with the barrel tool wrenches.

These are some of the most robust revolvers ever made.
 
I 150% agree with Middletown @stonebuster . Mine with the laminate grip would bind when I screwed it tight. The screw will go up until it hits where the mainspring rides and stop it.
I ended up acraglassing in a sleeve for the screw to bottom out in the grip to have it out far enough to not bind.
 
I 150% agree with Middletown @stonebuster . Mine with the laminate grip would bind when I screwed it tight. The screw will go up until it hits where the mainspring rides and stop it.
I ended up acraglassing in a sleeve for the screw to bottom out in the grip to have it out far enough to not bind.
I did try taking the grip off and it didn't help. It's binding and leaving rub marks on the cylinder face, so maybe that's the cause(I hope) I've noticed when I hold it up to the light the contact point is on the top of the forcing cone/barrel on all chambers. I can see a slight sliver of light through the rest of the gap.
 
Thanks for the schematic. I didn't explain myself well. The yoke assembly is retained and doesn't slip out forward so I believe the clip is in place. What I meant to say was, when I release the cylinder latch the cylinder will drop down freely and bottom out in the loading position if I don't ease it down. Letting it fall can't be good for the mechanism I wouldn't think. I thought there might be something to prevent it dropping down so freely. I'm new to the DWs. They're a different animal than my Smiths and Rugers.
 
Dan Wesson's aren't as highly sought after as their design, build quality, accuracy and flexibility would suggest they should be and their prices reflect this.

I own a Dan Wesson 744 that I paid $680 for and the biggest problem I have with it is that I have lost all interest in owning or even shooting a S&W or Ruger... it is kind of hard to appreciate a Chevy Malibu after you have owned a Ferrari! When I bought my 744 my biggest worry was that it was too cheap for such a quality revolver so there must be something wrong with it... I was wrong.

The cylinder latch on the DW's is different, and superior, to a S&W, Ruger and most other common revolvers. I suppose that if you grew up with thumb latched cylinders it would take a bit to get used to the DW center cylinder latch. After getting used to the center latch on my DW I prefer it to a thumb latch as the cylinder naturally swings out of the frame into the support of my left hand.

P.S. The CZ production barrels/shrouds are every bit as high quality as the original Monson barrel/shrouds. I love being able to switch from my 8" barrel at the range to my 4" barrel for carrying in the woods. The EWK muzzle brakes are an excellent design, very effective, incredibly reasonable priced, can be mounted or removed in under a minute and will easily switch between the different barrels. I love my EWK brake for target shooting at the range... it is too loud for hunting and such though.
 
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Thanks for the schematic. I didn't explain myself well. The yoke assembly is retained and doesn't slip out forward so I believe the clip is in place. What I meant to say was, when I release the cylinder latch the cylinder will drop down freely and bottom out in the loading position if I don't ease it down. Letting it fall can't be good for the mechanism I wouldn't think. I thought there might be something to prevent it dropping down so freely. I'm new to the DWs. They're a different animal than my Smiths and Rugers.
With the cylinder latch on the crane, the revolver will only open as fast as you allow it to with your thumb. Just allowing it to fall isn't good for any revolver; regardless of brand.
 
Congratulations on your new Dan Wesson.
Fear not about taking it apart. These are some of the simplest revolvers to work on.
The long side plate screw will capture your mainspring, and everything can be done with the barrel tool wrenches.

These are some of the most robust revolvers ever made.
Yes on the model 14 and 15's, don't try the Supermags without a tutorial from the DW forums, I learned by trial and ERRORS to take apart and rebuild the model 40, it's a whole new animal; no side plate; the trigger group drops out and everything must come out in a specific order and replacing the trigger group requires a 3rd hand to line up everything.
 
IMG_0222 (3).JPG I got the barrel tool, the nut came off and reset the gap to .004. Headed for the range. I started with 38 spl 130 grain FMJ SA. The first cylinder shot dead on in the red and I shot 40 more before the cylinder stop came out of the side plate and ended the range trip. This is not an uncommon event as it turns out as the stop is not actually part of the side plate but pressed in. On closer inspection of the back side of the side plate I saw a hairline crack from the hole where the stop goes. I've no idea how long this may have been there or whether I should continue shooting it. Side plates are only available privately and would need to be fitted at the CZ factory IF I find one that the holes line up with m y frame. They are few and I can't tell before I buy one whether the holes match up with my frame. Is there anything I could use or do to help stop the crack from traveling?
 
As for your side plate I would guess someone tried to pry it off. They are a tight fit. The way to remove side plates after your remove the grip and screws is to use a rubber mallet to pound on the area where the grip screw goes. It will take a few whacks but the side plate will come right off. If someone tried to pry off that tight fitting side plate I can see where it would cause a crack. You may have to send it in to have the side plate fitted to your gun which is probably the best route to go. I've put many thousands of rounds through my Dan Wesson .357 and can't imagine anything falling out or cracking. I've had the gun apart a number of times too and have seen no problems or potential problems. It's my most accurate handgun. I would go to: danwessonforum.com. It's members are the best knowledge base for Dan Wessons that I know of on the internet.
 
My side plate comes off without needing a mallet or prying. It takes a little fiddling with to get into the right position after inserting the forward part toward the yoke but no force is needed. After 38 years and multiple owners, who knows what was done. My searches have found quite a few posts and photos of the stop coming out of the side plate. The general consensus is it's caused by striking the ejector rod too hard when trying to extract cases. I used red loctite on mine. The gunsmith at CZ said if I found a side plate that the holes matched my frame holes he could fit it. Of course I wouldn't know if it would fit until after I bought it. I did register as a user at the DW forum and the guys there have been giving me a lot of help. One member just posted a photo of an identical line on his side plate in the same place. He's not convinced it's a crack and regularly shoots 158 grain 357s with no issue. So I'll keep shooting the old girl. The accuracy of the gun is amazing and 38 spl are literally like shooting a 22.
 
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EWK barrels and shroud assemblies are all sold out and have been for many months, maybe longer, years? The only thing they list is a 4" barrel tube (no shroud). It's easier to find DW barrels than EWK on the used market.

The Karl Lewis design is outstanding but dated at this point. Ruger has incorporated the stud main-spring housing and yoke detent into their GP-100 in the 1980's, although the yoke detent was featured on the much earlier S&W triple-lock, and now S&W has incorporated a yoke detent again on their latest iteration of the 19 and 66. S&W has also incorporated the two-piece barrel, which Ruger has also adopted for their recent Super GP-100, though the more common S&W barrel and shroud assemblies do not use a muzzle nut or allow for user assembly, adjustment or changeout. The muzzle nut on the DW also allows for easy installation of a brake. In my opinion, the Karl Lewis DW design is still better after all these advances by their competitors, but it lacks features and options that are critical to the contemporary market. There is market-demand for 8 shot cylinders (USPSA) and Dan Wesson / CZ aren't offering anything. There's also demand for 9mm. For IDPA, the DW remains a viable option but a Ruger Match Champion or S&W SSR is probably a better starting point. For ESR, the Dan Wesson lacks support for moon-clips from the factory. This would also be a shortcoming if it were viable at all for USPSA. Maybe you don't compete, so you don't care. I don't compete either, but I absolutely find 7 or 8 shot capacity a desirable feature in my carry gun. I can get that from Taurus, but not Dan Wesson. I also use moon-clips in my carry gun even if it's only on the initial load to ensure full ejection of all shells. I also find moon clips indispensable for training because in most classes where people are swapping magazines, loading from dump pouches or speed strips at least twice as often will leave me behind the ball. The Safariland speedloaders are fine but limited to 6 shot models and they still leave me pecking for brass.

The reason I say all this is because I sincerely hope CZ is going to do something with the Dan Wesson revolver. I'd like to see a new frame that supports larger cylinders, moon-clips, a top-strap machined for revolver-specific optics (not just crudely adapted slide-rides), while maintaining their features like the grip stem, forward cylinder release and locking, with the two-piece tensioned barrels. If they don't do it, maybe Colt or Kimber will. It would be a pity if CZ just idles Dan Wesson indefinitely.
 
I bought it as kind of a novelty range toy that is extremely accurate, looks great, has a bit of history and it didn't cost me an arm and a leg. I'm not going to be buying a new DW/CZ $2000 revolver any time soon unless I win the lottery. IMG_0247.JPG I thought it deserved an old DW walnut target grip since it's a range gun.
 
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Congratulations on your new Dan Wesson.
Fear not about taking it apart. These are some of the simplest revolvers to work on.
The long side plate screw will capture your mainspring, and everything can be done with the barrel tool wrenches.

These are some of the most robust revolvers ever made.
You're right about how simple they are. After watching a Youtube video and reading the "Average Joe tuneup" posted on the DW forum I tackled the complete breakdown and reassembly with no problems. I've had it apart several times now trying to improve the DA trigger. If I can do it anybody can.
 
I agree the price is not too cheap to be true I bought a decent one with a 4 inch barrel for 400. That said that was a steal of a deal and if I had with paid 500 I would have.
I sincerely doubt there's anything wrong with it but give it a good check over but I agree with what someone else said the Dan Wesson's are pretty darn hard to break you're not dealing with a week Smith & Wesson model 19.
I can personally attest the Dan Wesson are the most accurate revolvers in my arsenal
 
I just read the posts that went up while I was editing my last post. On second thought, without the original grips, freckled and turn lines, I'd say it's over priced.

My LGS has a DW 15-2 Monson Mass pistol pack with all 3 (or 4?) barrels, presentation box, tools, etc., and the gun looks perfect. However, the price is $1800 :eek:
which is cheap mate.

thewelshm
 
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