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Regarding the “headed for the dump” reference, it was like this:
An associate of mine was asked if he knew how to get rid of 4 firearms (long guns) which had been declared as total loss by an insurance company; water damage resulting from a fire. My associate was nice enough to volunteer to see to the disposal.
The bolt action rifle looked interesting to me.The other 3 are shotguns.

Now I own an Enfield. Pleasant surprise.
 
Regarding the “headed for the dump” reference, it was like this:
An associate of mine was asked if he knew how to get rid of 4 firearms (long guns) which had been declared as total loss by an insurance company; water damage resulting from a fire. My associate was nice enough to volunteer to see to the disposal.
The bolt action rifle looked interesting to me.The other 3 are shotguns.

Now I own an Enfield. Pleasant surprise.
Unfortunately you missed out on very nice German surplus that was being sold a few months ago but there is still Prvi or Wolf as ammo sources
https://www.sgammo.com/catalog/rifle-ammo-sale/303-british-ammo
 
Well , at least there are ammo options.
Butt stocks are easy to find; fore-ends are not.

The whole fore ends is weird. There was a shortage of No. 1 rifle forends, then someone apparently brought a bunch in from India (some of this may be the Springfield Sporter stuff) and some folks started to replicate them and the prices went down. The front handguards were and still are to some point a problem to acquire. Then it was the no. 4 rifle that has been short recently on forends but the handguards have been pretty plentiful.
 
I have already considered JB weld. If I do decide to restore this rifle it would not be with any illusions that I could improve the value to the point where I could make money selling it. It would simply be a matter of making it right.
Labor Day is behind us. Winter is coming. Might be a nice project.
Repairing the D&T holes is not hard. This short video showed you how to do it.
 
Ebay is currently the best place to find the forearm for the enfield. I've checked my other sources, so, yah.
 
While we are on the subject , would no.4 mkI SMLE components fit in my case?
They should. You can look up the schematics on Numrich for the SMLE. Another thing you could do is to become a member of an Lee-Enfield Forum online. I think there are several out there to choose from. My knowledge is limited on the No4's unfortunately, been restoring my own No1, MKIII at the moment starting from a barreled receiver.
 
While we are on the subject , would no.4 mkI SMLE components fit in my case?

Went back and reread thread, I am not really sure what you mean by fit in my case. As far as parts compatibility, there are a few No. 1 MK 3 (aka SMLE) parts that will work with the No. 4, Mk. 1. A buttstock for the No. 1 for example can be altered to work in a No. 4 with some judicious wood working, on a lot of them. I believe that the buttstock screws are likewise compatible as is the buttplace with proper inletting and or shortening of the stock to do so if necessary. The barrel bands are not compatible and neither are most if not all of the screws as the Brits changed threading between the two different series. Basically everything in front of the receiver is not really compatible between the two series due to differences in the barrel, the nose piece cap in the SMLE, and the heavier barrel of the No. 4.

For folks not interested in Enfield nomenclature, please feel free to ignore the rest of the post.

BTW, a few folks are rather unforgiving when posting about a No. 4 SMLE which did not exist. The SMLE (Short Magazine Loading Enfield) is the earlier name for the No. 1, Mk. 3 and this was to differentiate it from the earlier Long Lee Enfield aka the Magazine Lee Enfield (MLE aka Emily). The No. 1 Mk. 1 had a long barrel based on its preceding black powder models and I believe that this series began in 1903. The success and desirability of the carbine length made the long barrels almost instantly obsolete and thus the No. 1, Mk 3 was born and converted during WWI to the newer No. 1, Mk 3* which simplified manufacturing for production during war. Later experimental models regarding Mk numbers were created up until the eve of WWII where the new No. 4 was based the last of the No. 1 series on faster production, better accuracy (heavier barrel and rear aperture sights), and using more modern materials.

Thus, if buying parts, make sure you get No. 4 parts rather than the generic Enfield type--if necessary, Stratton's book on the different parts for the No. 4 rifle has an exhaustive list with pictures of each variation of the No. 4 (a similar book exists for the No. 1 series). Regarding the trigger guard and forend, there is an updated No. 4, Mk. 2 which has a receiver mounted trigger block and some No. 4's were altered that way and will be marked No. 4 Mk 1/2 or No. 4 Mk 1/3 depending which model of No. 4 was converted. The Savage (and Long Branch) used an altered bolt release with a gap in the receiver rail near the chamber for snapping and unsnapping the bolt head for removal. These are known as the No. 4, Mk. 1* (the star denoting a minor alteration in the design). The only problem with some of these is that the rail cut has been known to break off pieces which generally makes the rifle unserviceable and why these rifles were among the first to be surplussed compared with that of the standard No. 4 bolt releases behind the receiver charger bridge. The parts are mostly the same between the No. 4 Mk. 1 and the No. 4 Mk 2, Mk 1/2 or Mk 1/3 with the exception of the trigger guard and the stock forend. You might be able to get the No. 4 Mk. 2 stock forend to work with the No. 4 with some woodworking knowledge as the rear inletting is different at the rear of the forend at the stock ring and the Brits added a recoil screw instead of the previous stock reinforcing plate used in older No. 4. This forend is only about 50 bucks or so from Numrich and they do have them in New Old Stock Condition. From the amount of inletting work that I had to do with the Long Branch No. 4 Mk. 1/3 that I restored, I believe that you could use one with minor alterations to the stock.

The key to using a new forend or even a new used one for any of the Enfield series is to properly seat the receiver recoil surfaces with the wood stock (called the draws)--gaps, wood rot/shrinkage/oil soaking, wear, improper dismounting of these stocks from the receiver can cause accuracy problems and stock splitting problems. Look up Peter Laidler's expert discussion and posts on the milsurps.com website in their Lee Enfield Knowledge library where he goes through step by step fitting of the stock to the receiver as well as other posts on fitting other parts. Laidler was a former armorer for the Brits and had extensive experience in refitting rifles for service and his techniques are strictly those used by the British military to restore the rifles to service by the book. https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=16948 GunnyUSMC who has restored more than a few stocks to use posts on various websites can also point you to using some techniques to repair or fit a stock albeit not necessarily the British military way.

Occasionally, the P14 aka No. 3, Mk. 1 rifle which is a Mauser pattern type parts are sold as Enfield parts. So be careful buying from ebay/gunbroker sellers as they may not be knowledgeable.

One other option, which GunnyUSMC has undoubtably recorded in one of his famous detailed discussion threads, is to buy the forend tip of the stock replacement piece from Liberty Tree for about $10 bucks and splice the front end of your existing forend or another sportered version which tend to be quite cheap for the No. 4. It takes some epoxy, rod type reinforcement, etc. but can be done pretty cheaply and the splice can usually be hidden underneath the barrel bands. I once did a Krag, an Arisaka carbine stock, and a 1917 rifle to fix the sporter cut stocks and avoid the unobtainable/high priced uncut originals.
 
The No. 1 Mk. 1 had a long barrel based on its preceding black powder models and I believe that this series began in 1903. The success and desirability of the carbine length made the long barrels almost instantly obsolete and thus the No. 1, Mk 3 was born and converted during WWI to the newer No. 1, Mk 3* which simplified manufacturing for production during war. Later experimental models regarding Mk numbers were created up until the eve of WWII where the new No. 4 was based the last of the No. 1 series on faster production, better accuracy (heavier barrel and rear aperture sights), and using more modern materials.
The SMLE, Mk I, (No.1, Mk I) had the same length 25 inch barrel that all the SMLEs, and No, 4 (all marks) had. The Magazine Lee Metford and Magazine Lee Enfields had 30 inch barrels. The Lee Metford Carbine and and the Lee Enfield Carbines had 20-3/4 inch barrels. With the introduction of the SMLE, the carbines were dropped.

The differences between the S.M.L.E. Mk I, Mk II and Mk III were mainly restricted the the method of fitting the charger. The Mks I and II had the charger fittings in halves, the right half on the bolt head and the left half in the receiver. It wasn't until the Mk III that the definitive charger bridge appeared.

The Mk III* simplified production be elimination of the rear sight windage adjustment and magazine cut-off


You might be able to get the No. 4 Mk. 2 stock forend to work with the No. 4 with some woodworking knowledge as the rear inletting is different at the rear of the forend at the stock ring [socket] and the Brits added a recoil screw instead of the previous stock reinforcing plate used in older No. 4. This forend is only about 50 bucks or so from Numrich and they do have them in New Old Stock Condition. From the amount of inletting work that I had to do with the Long Branch No. 4 Mk. 1/3 that I restored, I believe that you could use one with minor alterations to the stock.
The difference is the No.4 Mk1 and Mk1* fore ends are closed at the back, whereas the Mk1/2, etc and Mk2 are open to allow for the block that the trigger is mounted to. The screw is to replace the reinforcing strap riveted on to the earlier marks.

Look up Peter Laidler's expert discussion and posts on the milsurps.com website in their Lee Enfield Knowledge library where he goes through step by step fitting of the stock to the receiver as well as other posts on fitting other parts. Laidler was a former armorer for the Brits and had extensive experience in refitting rifles for service and his techniques are strictly those used by the British military to restore the rifles to service by the book.
Yes, most definitely. A proper fitting fore end is the difference between a good shooter and a wall hanger.
 
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This rifle was new when I purchased it. It is probable it was Canadian surplus, even though it is not marked, because of the number of Canadian Lee Enfields and M1917's that were on the market at the time. And I paid $100 out the door. That is all they worth, which was in the 1990's. I totally disagree with cutting down military rifles, but gunsmiths have been promoting "sporterizing" since WW2 and went these came in, I got all sorts of suggestions on how to sporterize. And I offended many a person by telling them that I was not going to mess up my military rifle by "sporterizing", instead I was going to keep mine original. Every time I went to the range some helpful individual was offering me suggestions on how to "sporterize" my military rifles. People think they have free will, but actually they are just conforming to the group think. No doubt the owner of this rifle was one of those influenced by the group think. And, it was cheap. Got to remember that, they were cheap.

However I remember the low prices on early 60's military surplus and the costs of the things 20 years later. I am glad I got mine when I did, I saw this week, Finnish military M1891's going for $800, and I paid around $100 for most of mine.

This Savage made Lee Enfield has a two groove barrel, and when I first took it to the range, would not hold on a 8.5 X 11 inch sheet of paper. I took the forend screw off and the forend just fell off. I bedded the forend around the action with Devcon aluminum filled epoxy and the best ten shot group with Greek 303 Brit was two inches. I have never duplicated that, but it will hold the black at 100 yards, which is about what it was expected to do. These were made fast, and the British were desperate for weapons and wanted issuable rifles now, not target rifles later.

I did clean the grease off the stock with Oven Cleaner, which removed any original finish along with all the grease. The forend was closer in color to the current buttstock color. All I did after cleaning was rub in raw lindseed oil, but I think the original rifles were dipped in a dyed lindseed oil bath.

Restoring ruined Lee Enfields to full military condition is expensive and I would not recommend attempting to restore to one to military condition. However, a better stock, one with a pistol grip, would be an improvement. Assuming the barrel is not a rusty sewer pipe.
 
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This is a bit far afield for the OP but might be of interest to others.

Part of the confusion is the nomenclature changed in 1926 regarding the Lee Enfields and I added an extra No. 1 instead of the Lee Enfield Magazine Loading, Mk. 1 and so forth. Originally, old SMLE was introduced it was the ShtLe for Short Magazine Lee Enfield, Mk. 1 and the later were denoted by asterisks rather than numbers, later standardized as the No. 1, Mk 1, 2,3 etc. after WWI.
For those who care, here is the British NRA website dealing with SMLE and nomenclature. https://rifleman.org.uk/The_Rifle_Short_Magazine_Lee-Enfield.htm

This is somewhat different as compared with simply the Magazine Lee Enfield Rifle Mk I and I* and later changed over to the Charger Loading Lee Enfields in a similar fashion for many of them. Some were converted to training rifles as well. The Lee Enfield Carbine aka LEC was as you say a 21 inch and piece long but looks more like a shortened Long Lee instead of a SMLE and lacks the distinctive nose cap of the SMLE series.

http://www.firearms.net.au/military/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=66&Itemid=95

The Long Lee (MLE) used a sliding bolt guide to keep stuff out of the receiver which had to go once charger loading was introduced. The bolt itself is also different as the safety is mounted on the bolt rather than the receiver and thus uses unique cocking pieces and safeties.

Here is a list of the series and years of production. http://gunworld.com/guns/british-lee-enfield-303-rifle-the-legendary-smelly/
 
I believe that the buttstock screws are likewise compatible
The buttstock screw for the Mk. III (SMLE) is different from that for the No. 4. The Mk. III screw has a square boss on the end (the part that protrudes through the receiver collar) that is supposed to prevent the screw from rotating when the forend is in place. Therefore, on a Mk. III, the forend must be removed before the buttstock is removed. If someone that doesn't know this tries to remove the buttstock screw first, it will split the forend. The No. 4 screw doesn't have this square boss, and therefore the removal order doesn't apply. (It's safe to remove the buttstock first.)
 
FWIW, Here is the last No. 4 Mk 1*/3 project that is nearly complete which was restored from a bare barrelled receiver--got it off off gunbroker for a decent price--basically for about the price of a bare receiver. It did still have the safety assembly which I cleaned and reinstalled. I still need to remove a bit of material from the buttstock to give a bit closer fit and I am contemplating whether or not to bed the draws and the key parts of the receiver contact areas with the stock with epoxy. As the forend was NOS, it had never been fitted to a rifle and required quite a bit of trimming to get to where it needed to be. The recoil bolt hole in my stock was a bit off center as was the butt end of the forestock and had to be leveled. The wood furniture is different colors because I used a buttstock and handguards that I already had except for the forend.

A buttstock typically runs from about $10 bucks trashed to about $30 as New Old Stock with specified lengths. Handguards run about $10-20 each depending on wear. The forend came from Numrich and was quite reasonably priced at $45 or so. The barrel bands cost about $20 as I used Long Branch makes for these. The most difficult and expensive was the fitting of the bolt and timing the bolt head. It used a No. 0 bolt head which gave almost perfect headspace and originally the bolt head would not clock to allow easy removal. Some judicious fitting allowed the bolt head to clock with almost no overclocking--this prevents damage to the threads of both the bolt body and head. The bolt shaft itself is NOS which cost about $40 plus the bolt head for about $20. I had the ejector and ejector springs/screw and put these on the new bolt head. There are a few bolt head sellers on Ebay that actually give the micrometer readings of their bolt heads which makes it a bit easier to fit the bolt head to the bolt body but my bolt body and head came from Apex Gun Parts. I had an old steel buttplate from a previous project and fitted it--these run about $10-20 or so with the steel and zamac buttplates at a discount. The buttplate screws on a lot of these are buggered either with someone having a heavy hand and incorrect screwdriver or pounding the rifle on its butt which is common among drill rifles. You can get the buggered screws cheaper and if you have the files and a peening hammer, you can fix buggered screws pretty cheaply with a spot of cold bluing or paint helpful in restoring their look.

The front sight protector was the one piece that I had to buy a second one for as the original savage that I had would not fit the Longbranch. (Savages and Longbranches often shared parts which is why totally matching parts manufactured by the same subcontractors in No. 4 rifles are somewhat rare as both the manufacturing and repairs spread parts over time regardless of makers.) Got a long branch front sight protector and screw for about $20. The trigger guard is different and bought one by knowing what they looked like cheap on an Ebay auction for about $20 and had the various screws/pins and a NOS trigger. The magazine is a reproduction but feeds quite well using my dummy rounds and cost about $30 on sale from either Sarco or Numrich. I got a Singer type sight for about $25 bucks because it looked and was rusty/dirty on the surface. The rust cleaned up along with the dirt and the sight is fine. I have a WWII expedient Canadien aperture sight that had the aperture broken off the sight ladder that I thought about resoldering or epoxy but did not thing that it would hold up.

Total amount that I have in it is roughly $250 and it has a VG bore to boot and tight headspace and a decent sized chamber as far as Enfields go as was common in postwar rebuilds.

Regarding the OP's rifle. He needs a forend which either can be a sporter cut one restored with the help of Liberty Tree's stock tips or adapting the No. 4 Mk. 2 stock to a No. 4, Mk. 1 configuration. The No. 4 uses a tie place but there is no reason why you cannot use a recoil screw instead of the brass tie rod pin to hold the tie plate in. You can even make this yourself with tin snips etc. The main thing to to protect the back of the forend. You will need to splice a piece of wood to replace what was removed to allow the trigger boss of the No. 4 Mk. 2 where it was either machined or brazed on in the case of retrofits. The No. 4, No. 1 mounts off of the trigger guard itself.

As the barrel is uncut, the major parts needed are handguards, a forend, barrel bands, sights, and perhaps a buttplate/stock if the original has been cut or a recoil pad put on it. If you have a working firearm, the rest of the restoration is not bad for a winter project and buying carefully on auction sites over time can make the costs cheaper. I suspect that you could restore most of it to resemble military condition for $150-200 if you are interested and Savage rifles bring about $100-200 more than other Enfields in the U.S. so I suspect it would be worth your while if the barrel is decent even with the D&T that might bring about $350-400 right now on the market.

Cutting it pretty much makes it a sporter as rebarreling the Enfield can be done but requires special tools and vanishing original barrels. The knox form and barrel profiles of the Enfields are what prevents ready to put on aftermarket barrels such as exist for the Springfield, Garand, etc. I have fired a short barrelled Enfield too as a clone of the Jungle Carbine and it is a bit sporty and obnoxious in flash and recoil. If you do cut the barrel, I would suggest making it into a clone of the Jungle Carbine type without the wandering zero issue.

Right now, the remaining rifles that are pretty cheap to restore as long as the barrel has not been cut and is shootable are Enfields, either the No. 1 or No. 4, Mosins, Mauser 98's that are not German, and their older Spanish m93 cousins and that is pretty much about it if you do not care much about whether the parts match what historically should have been. Turk Mausers are a special problem where some parts are cheap but others are specific to the Turk Mauser and can get pricey. The major issue with Yugo Mausers is the bolt/firing pin etc. is expensive to get and something like a 24/47 handguard can be ridiculously expensive.
 
The buttstock screw for the Mk. III (SMLE) is different from that for the No. 4. The Mk. III screw has a square boss on the end (the part that protrudes through the receiver collar) that is supposed to prevent the screw from rotating when the forend is in place. Therefore, on a Mk. III, the forend must be removed before the buttstock is removed. If someone that doesn't know this tries to remove the buttstock screw first, it will split the forend. The No. 4 screw doesn't have this square boss, and therefore the removal order doesn't apply. (It's safe to remove the buttstock first.)

Actually, the early SMLE screws were made that way and somewhere along the way they left off the square projection that splits stocks from the stock bolts possibly for logistic problems. One issue though can be that the screw threads vary a bit among the different countries. I have about 10 or so stock bolts left over from various projects and occasionally a No. 4 will fit a Number 1 or vice versa. I am restoring a wallhanger Lithgow as a training rifle and it likes a No. 4 buttstock screw for whatever reason. Occasionally you will get the joker in the deck and get something like a MLE buttstock screw which is different.

Oh, forgot the pictures of my Longbranch restoration and the new repro mags that Numrich and Sarco have for the No. 4. They also make one for the No. 1 rifle.
 

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Just for the heck of it, I am posting a picture of the back side of a No. 4 mag and a No. 1 rifle magazine. You can see how the projections differ and how a No. 1 can be converted to a No. 4 but probably difficult to do vice versa.

And what to heck, here is a No. 1, Mk 3* dated 1916 that is an early "peddled scheme" SSA Enfield (made by a variety of subcontractors). There are several anachronisms here--the first is that no No. 1, Mk 3* ever had volley sights as issued. The volley sight disk is actually from a P14 but the same one fits both rifles and I used it because Numrich only have the volley sight forends in stock. The second is the nose cap is NOS and last is that the Stock Disk is a new repro that has no unit designation and obviously is brand new. I do this so that my restorations cannot be taken as the real thing. The front handguard is missing its ears as well but these commonly broke off during use so India, I believe simply chopped them off. This rifle has a matching barrel, receiver, and bolt and surprisingly headspaced pretty well. The barrel does not appear to have been replaced due to markings and the rifle was never FTRed aka rearsenaled. I left off the piling swivel as well because they tend to bung up the rifle. The butt stock is original to the firearm, and the barrel appeared toast until after repeated cleanings it has good rifling but pitting in the grooves. It is safe to fire.

The poor rifle had hideous green paint slathered on the receiver and barrel parts and the stock had splatters of it on it. Some sort of spray enamel that came off with a little mineral spirits and left surprisingly good bluing underneath.
 

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I found a source for no.1 fore-ends --- I am guessing that a fore-end for a no.1 will not fit a no.4 ...
And , while I'm at it , are the no.4 fore-ends "mark specific" , or will a no.4 fore-end fit any no.4 rifle , mark whatever?
 
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any no. 4 will fit any mark whatever fore-end. this would not be a first gun to fix for starters the no.4 was my third gun so go slow and read a lot good luck.
 
That is a Lee-Enfield Carbine that has been converted to the "R.I.C. pattern" for the Royal Irish Constabulary.

This is and unmolested L.E.C., Mk I
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(although deactivated)

The Irish police wanted a bayonet, so the original carbine nose caps were removed and Lee-Enfield or Lee-Metford nose caps were fitted. You can see the splice where they increased the size of the fore wood. These were made after the S.M.L.E replaced all the L.E.C.s in cavalry units and the L.E.C.s were "in excess of requirements".

The Model/Mark nomenclature for British stuff:

Model Name (e.g., Magazine Lee-Enfield), then Mark, in Roman numerals, the the "star" for minor changes not requiring a full mark advancement. The minor differences between the No 4, Mk I and Mk I* were only the bolt latch, or lack thereof, and not deemed enough for a full mark advancement to Mk II, however the moving of the trigger from mounting on the trigger guard to the receiver was big enough. This was used up until the 1926.

Design number (No. 1, No. 4 etc), the mark requirements did not change, e.g., an S.M.L.E Mk III, became a No. 1, Mk III.

In 1944, Roman numerals were replaced by Arabic numerals, a No. 4, Mk I* became No. 4, Mk 1*, and Mk VII Ball became Mk 7 Ball.

And, then some time in the 1950s the "L" system came into place, but was not retroactively applied to many legacy items. The L8A1 thru L8A5 were for Lee-Enfields (Mk 1, Mk 1*, Mk 1/2, Mk 1/3 and Mk 2) that were converted to 7.62mm, but the original .303 versions never got "L" series designations.
 
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RESOLUTION ---

After extensive searching for components for returning my free Enfield "sporter" to a more original condition it became apparent that I'd be spending a LOT of money , $100+ on the forend alone. In the course of that search I monitored several auctions for Enfields in original condition , eventually landing one for a mere $256. I then sold the sporterized one for $175.

Enjoy the images of my $76 Fazerkerly Enfield , and thanks to all who contributed to my crash course on this fine line of classic military rifles.
 

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I love the old workhorses. They made great shooters I had one growing up. One thing I can say is be very cautious if you shoot it. Mine had a flaw. When you would go to take the safety off it would fire if you had a round chambered.
 
RESOLUTION ---

After extensive searching for components for returning my free Enfield "sporter" to a more original condition it became apparent that I'd be spending a LOT of money , $100+ on the forend alone. In the course of that search I monitored several auctions for Enfields in original condition , eventually landing one for a mere $256. I then sold the sporterized one for $175.

Enjoy the images of my $76 Fazerkerly Enfield , and thanks to all who contributed to my crash course on this fine line of classic military rifles.
Great deal on the new rifle.
As you know now, restoring one is not cheap. It can sometimes cost you more. I bought a lot of extra parts about 10 years ago so, some restoration projects are not as costly now days. But it’s the love of restoring these old rifles that I find enjoyable.
 
And , while I'm at it , are the no.4 fore-ends "mark specific" , or will a no.4 fore-end fit any no.4 rifle , mark whatever?
A point of recognition for the No. 4 Mk. I (and Mk. I*) is the reinforcing strap around the back of the forend, where it abuts the receiver collar. The No. 4 Mk. II lacks this feature, having just a bare screw there.
 
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