New Sig 365 SAS

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I have a tendency to get really excited over a new model gun. It takes about 24 hrs for that excitement to wane. I do like the fact that they got rid of the bulky takedown lever and slide stop, I really like the sleek design. But since reading a little about porting, not so interested. The sights, I could not say one way or the other as I have not shot a gun with them. Still I I were interested in a 365, I would be certain to try both out before purchase. I know it will not be long, before one of my club members have one and we always get together and compare with a little shooting. At this point, most opinions are just that opinions. The real truth will come out in the shooting.I like the fact that Sig is looking for way to impove the gun. Since it was not a good fit for and others, maybe they will address that and come out with some different grips down the road.
All said, just because a new model does come out, really is no reason to ditch a nice gun you have and throw out hundreds in cash for features that may not be worth it or liked.
 
I have used that "bullseye" site. Don't particularly like it, but it works I guess. On this Sig, half of your target is invisible due to the slide. It's not so good for precision bullseye shooting but for self defense it should put lead in meat. The idea of recessing it like that is innovative and sure would make it more compact.
 
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I just received a SAS without the ported barrel. Seller assured me (Gunbroker) that I would receive the ported version. Well they LIED!!!! I received an unported version. Did i get screwed or not?
 
I’ve got an un-ported P365 SAS and really like it. It shoots and handles like a big gun, but is roughly the same size as my Smith Bodyguard .380. Sites are very quick to acquire and are great out to 30 feet. Beyond that, target tends to get covered by the 3895EE57-E1F4-4EB2-BC22-15DA0C14D123.jpeg site. This is the best close quarter CCW pistol on the market. Middle target is 21 feet. Hope this helps.
 
I will give Sig points for one thing, they seem to be thinking out of the box.

They also might be conceding the "x" ring. I, too, appreciate SIG exploring unorthodox concepts but I'm not one who believes pistols intended for short range shooting should necessarily not be viable for shooting at longer ranges. If you need a change of direction in terms of windage with an SAS pistol to coordinate the poa with the poi, what then?
 
They also might be conceding the "x" ring. I, too, appreciate SIG exploring unorthodox concepts but I'm not one who believes pistols intended for short range shooting should necessarily not be viable for shooting at longer ranges. If you need a change of direction in terms of windage with an SAS pistol to coordinate the poa with the poi, what then?

What range are you thinking of that shooting this self defense pistol would suffer from wind drift ? I would think that any range long enough to show the effects on wind drift for a center of mass hit would also be a long enough range for you to leave the vicinity and avoid bodily harm. I'm pretty sure a jury would see it that way.
 
I just received a SAS without the ported barrel. Seller assured me (Gunbroker) that I would receive the ported version. Well they LIED!!!! I received an unported version. Did i get screwed or not?

Mine is also unported. Shoots great, don't sweat it.
 
You don't need wind to have a sight that needs adjusting to correct for windage. That can be the case straight from the box; happens all the time. If your point of aim does not coincide with your point of impact in terms of windage "side to side" (as opposed to elevation, "up and down") on a SIG SAS pistol, you're pretty much screwed. Even with "fixed" sights, as opposed to fully adjustable rear sights, most handguns can have the windage adjusted by drifting the rear sight with a hammer and drift pin in the direction you want the bullet to go (not the case with the SAS). Unless you're shooting at relatively long ranges, with most handguns, a needed change of windage has little to do with the wind.
 
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You don't need wind to have a sight that needs adjusting to correct for windage. That can be the case straight from the box; happens all the time. If your point of aim does not coincide with your point of impact in terms of windage "side to side" (as opposed to elevation, "up and down") on a SIG SAS pistol, you're pretty much screwed. Even with "fixed" sights, as opposed to fully adjustable rear sights, most handguns can have the windage adjusted by drifting the rear sight with a hammer and drift pin in the direction you want the bullet to go (not the case with the SAS). Unless you're shooting at relatively long ranges, with most handguns, a needed change of windage has little to do with the wind.

You would need to send it back and they will adjust the windage. Mine has been right on and it looks like @Great Scot has his in line. I have read the responses from other members on other threads on this site and no one has complained about having to adjust for windage out of the box. Others have had to send them back for elevation adjustment, but not windage. Do you have any specific information or are just throwing shade ?
 
I've seen some videos of folks running into sights that are significantly off out of the box.


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I would never own a carry gun that handicaps it's accuracy at longer distances unnecessarily, but that's just me.
 
You would need to send it back and they will adjust the windage.

And just how would they do that with the rear "sight" being a part of the frame? I have a Ruger sa Vaquero revolver that prints groups left of the point of aim. Because the "sight" is just a groove on the top strap, the only way to correct the windage (having nothing to do with the "wind") is to either bend the front blade incrementally to the right or have the barrel turned ("clocked").

Others have had to send them back for elevation adjustment, but not windage. Do you have any specific information or are just throwing shade ?

Here's some "shade" for you: Firstly, you betrayed your lack of knowledge about what the term windage means when you thought it is based on the wind. It is not. As I said, unless you're shooting at relatively long ranges, the wind will have little influence on most handgun shooting but, as Trey Vinston opined, "I would never own a carry gun that handicaps its accuracy at longer distances unnecessarily, but that's just me." It's me too.

Secondly, there are times when wind direction necessitates a change in the sight setting, left to right horizontally and vice versa. The best examples I've experienced have happened when I shoot in Bullseye competition; especially in venues like Camp Perry, where the winds off Lake Erie can play havoc with your scores while you hold a handgun offhand (and one-handed) and shoot at fifty yards in the Slow Fire stage. Short of resorting to "Kentucky windage" (more shade for you if you're acquainted with the term and what it means), a small screw driver turning the windage adjustment on the rear sight is the only way to accommodate an angry Zephyrus.

And, finally, though I own a SIG Model 365 pistol, I have no experience with the SAS variant. And I think the idea of ridding a pistol being carried concealed of things that might impede a draw from cover is a good one. I never said that it's likely that the windage on an SAS will be off the mark; only that if it is, there's not much you can do about it-except to use your Kentucky windage skills. :)
 
And just how would they do that with the rear "sight" being a part of the frame?

They will send you a new slide. I hear they have more than one.

as Trey Vinston opined, "I would never own a carry gun that handicaps its accuracy at longer distances unnecessarily, but that's just me." It's me too.

So no .380's for you then, IDK how well a snub J-frame will work at 50 yds but color me doubtful. I think there may be more than one popular CCW patform not suitable for long range shooting but that's just me.

Secondly, there are times when wind direction necessitates a change in the sight setting, left to right horizontally and vice versa. The best examples I've experienced have happened when I shoot in Bullseye competition; especially in venues like Camp Perry,

Yeah, I probably wouldn't shoot the SAS in Bullseye competition at Camp Perry. What wind speed do you think it would take to throw off a 9mm off a center of mass target at 25 yds ?
 
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I'm not following this rabbit trail behind you anymore. If you viewed the video Trey Veston provided, you'd understand the possible problem and (aside from returning the slide to SIG and having it replaced :eek:) there's no fixing it at home. Again, you had (have?) no clue as to what the term windage means and thought that windage necessarily meant dealing with the wind. Adios, but remember in the end, we're on the same team. :)
 
I'm not following this rabbit trail behind you anymore. If you viewed the video Trey Veston provided, you'd understand the possible problem and (aside from returning the slide to SIG and having it replaced :eek:) there's no fixing it at home. Again, you had (have?) no clue as to what the term windage means and thought that windage necessarily meant dealing with the wind. Adios, but remember in the end, we're on the same team. :)

That is the answer. If it comes in to you from your FFL out of lateral adjustment you send it to Sig. I really do not see how it can lose lateral adjustment after that. Other than being mechanically out of lateral adjustment, what could cause you to have to adjust windage if it is not the wind ? IMHO they probably should have picked a different term than windage if it was not meant to adust for the wind ... LOL
 
Other than being mechanically out of lateral adjustment

That's a pretty significant "other". Did you watch the video?

what could cause you to have to adjust windage if it is not the wind ?

A different shooter having a different hold on the gun and a different sight picture can affect poa vs poi; changing the sight adjustment can accommodate said variances. Human beings aren't Ransom rests.

Regarding my adieus-I lied. :oops:
 
That's a pretty significant "other". Did you watch the video?



A different shooter having a different hold on the gun and a different sight picture can affect poa vs poi; changing the sight adjustment can accommodate said variances. Human beings aren't Ransom rests.

Regarding my adieus-I lied. :oops:
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"Adjusting" doesn't mean replacement. As I've been saying, there's no way to "adjust" the sight on a SIG SAS for windage.

Annnnd here we go around and around again. Once it is set from Sig, whether you had to send it back or not, why would you need to ADJUST it if not for wind drift ?
 
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